Popular Post Sapper Posted July 14 Popular Post Share Posted July 14 8 minutes ago, Warhippy said: Absolutely not. I called this out yesterday. They were already anointing him as chosen by gods graces and claiming this was his crucifiction/walk on water moment The evangelical right is the single most dangerous entity in western politics because they intentionally prey on the weak and ill educated. The evangelical church has zero to do with Christianity and is nothing more that an extreme right wing movement that has taken over near dormant churches to give them a sense of legitimacy and of course tax free status The evangelical movement has caused significant damage to Christianity and is the leading cause of why their numbers are down significantly Young people and moderates look to their church leadership and it simply doesn't reflect their values .... So they walk away. The old time.fire and brimstone Baptists would have excommunicated Trump and his followers long ago. They took the commandment about no other idols etc very seriously lol Before folks roast me ... I do support Christianity... Just not evangelical political Jesus stuff 1 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duodenum Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 3 minutes ago, JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo said: I thought minors couldn't make political donations? He would have been around 16 at the time. I think Actblues website says they don't accept under the age of 18 so it might have been his dad who has the same name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 22 minutes ago, Sapper said: I'm glad Trump is ok but this is nuts .... Trump has now said God stepped in to save him..... And it's being repeated in his cult as if a miracle of Jesus has occured Trump is the opposite of Christian .... You would think he would turn down the rehtoric rather than trying to spin this as him being the second coming of Jesus It's this kind of thing that makes it really hard to be civil. He's a turd. Of course he'll pander to the evangelicals with this garbage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 2 minutes ago, Duodenum said: I think Actblues website says they don't accept under the age of 18 so it might have been his dad who has the same name. I probably should have googled it first. Apparently they can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 2 minutes ago, Sapper said: The evangelical church has zero to do with Christianity and is nothing more that an extreme right wing movement that has taken over near dormant churches to give them a sense of legitimacy and of course tax free status The evangelical movement has caused significant damage to Christianity and is the leading cause of why their numbers are down significantly Young people and moderates look to their church leadership and it simply doesn't reflect their values .... So they walk away. The old time.fire and brimstone Baptists would have excommunicated Trump and his followers long ago. They took the commandment about no other idols etc very seriously lol Before folks roast me ... I do support Christianity... Just not evangelical political Jesus stuff Jesus wasn't with the politicians, or the money people. One day in Sunday school teaches you that. The political evangelicals are a cancer in the US system. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duodenum Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 (edited) 1 minute ago, JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo said: I probably should have googled it first. Apparently they can. Either way, it doesn't seem the shooter was particularly active on the political side of things. Maybe we'll eventually find a motive, maybe not. Could be some bullied kid with depression looking to go out with a bang. Edited July 14 by Duodenum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 34 minutes ago, bolt said: is flossing that bad, does that include water flossing? Alf soaks his teeth in a jar of water every night. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrayDog Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 1 minute ago, Alflives said: Alf soaks his teeth in a jar of water every night. Not bourbon? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Does the civil war come when Trump refuses to step down after his next term? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curmudgeon Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 43 minutes ago, bolt said: This is why we have division. Trump may be all those things but democracy is democracy. Is it democracy when a sitting president incites an angry crowd to march to the capital and stop the peaceful transition of power that is a result of a free and fair election? Democracy was what the people holed up in the Capitol were doing, until they had to hide from Trump's people who'd have killed them if they could. THAT is why there is division. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 2 minutes ago, Duodenum said: Either way, it doesn't seem the shooter was particularly active on the political side of things. Maybe we'll eventually find a motive, maybe not. Could be some bullied kid with depression looking to go out with a bang. I bet they find a manifesto of sorts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBH1926 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 5 hours ago, DeNiro said: I mean do you really think there will be actual evidence? A coverup that big would require tying up every last loose end. But I’m not gonna get into that. As long as there’s reasonable doubt then questions should continue to be asked. The US has committed many atrocities throughout their history with actual evidence to prove it now. Just because they’re not leaving evidence lying around doesn’t mean you shouldn’t be suspicious. I believe the US is entering a very dangerous time in the next 4 years with both Russia and China challenging them militarily. I don’t think it’s unrealistic to think that there are certain people (generals/CIA/Homeland Security) that don’t want Trump leading them through that. He’s unpredictable and hard to control which means he’s dangerous to the country. Is it that crazy to think they wouldn’t “remove him” from the situation? I get that you and other people might be skeptical, but if I don’t see anything suspicious I don’t want to be suspicions just for the sake of being suspicious. Sometimes the most simple answer is the right one. If things change and more evidence is presented, I might change my opinion. But again just because there is no evidence to prove otherwise, that doesn’t mean that the evidence is hidden/destroyed as part of some cover up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 2 minutes ago, bishopshodan said: Does the civil war come when Trump refuses to step down after his next term? His scoutus will eliminate any barrier to a 3rd term. Bank on it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curmudgeon Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 29 minutes ago, Sapper said: You would think he would turn down the rehtoric rather than trying to spin this as him being the second coming of Jesus Not to put too fine a point on it, but when has Trump ever turned down the rhetoric? Now he thinks he has God on his side and his Christofascist disciples are loudly singing Hosannas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuckin_futz Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 1 minute ago, CBH1926 said: I get that you and other people might be skeptical, but if I don’t see anything suspicious I don’t want to be suspicions just for the sake of being suspicious. Sometimes the most simple answer is the right one. If things change and more evidence is presented, I might change my opinion. But again just because there is no evidence to prove otherwise, that doesn’t mean that the evidence is hidden/destroyed as part of some cover up. yeah Occam's razor for sure. but its not out of the question to think that it was some sort of set up, it was just so perfect . Like a hollywood piece. I said earlier, I'm kinda enjoying the different theories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickenspear Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 (edited) Scratch that, got the year wrong. Edited July 14 by Chickenspear error Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 6 minutes ago, CBH1926 said: I get that you and other people might be skeptical, but if I don’t see anything suspicious I don’t want to be suspicions just for the sake of being suspicious. Sometimes the most simple answer is the right one. If things change and more evidence is presented, I might change my opinion. But again just because there is no evidence to prove otherwise, that doesn’t mean that the evidence is hidden/destroyed as part of some cover up. When a government has a history of lies and cover ups they don’t deserve the benefit of the doubt though that’s kinda my point. The default should be suspicion at this point. They’ve done a lot worse than kill one person in the name of national security. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickenspear Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 11 minutes ago, StrayDog said: Not bourbon? Yeah, 'water'. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Satchmo Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Just now, bolt said: I'm not really up on my Star Wars history but that was a bad guy speaking wasn't it? 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 14 minutes ago, StrayDog said: Not bourbon? Cutty Sark. Gotta stay in budget 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 24 minutes ago, JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo said: I thought minors couldn't make political donations? He would have been around 16 at the time. He turned 18 in 2021. Not sure how strict they monitor age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satchmo Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 2 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: He turned 18 in 2021. Not sure how strict they monitor age. The guy is an attempted murderer so I'm not going to try to hard to defend his privacy but I'm blown away by the amount of information in that image and reminded of our collective lack of privacy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolt Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 24 minutes ago, Duodenum said: Either way, it doesn't seem the shooter was particularly active on the political side of things. Maybe we'll eventually find a motive, maybe not. Could be some bullied kid with depression looking to go out with a bang. He just looks like your average peaceful antifa member? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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