Bob Long Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 1 minute ago, Gurn said: Not sure- but they are a self admitted previously banned member; posting under a different name, without mod approval. So likely not here for long. its just Clam doing Clam. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure_Pavel Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 (edited) Im pretty sure that assassination attempt just sealed a trump victory. Getting shot in the head and pulled off stage with his fist up and a USA chant going in the background, that's the most American thing I've seen in a while. Edited July 15 by Bure_Pavel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Satchmo Posted July 15 Popular Post Share Posted July 15 1 minute ago, Bure_Pavel said: Im pretty such that assassination attend just sealed a trump victory. Getting shot in the head and pulled off stage with his fist up and a USA chant going in the background, thats the most American thing Ive seen in a while. I think you are right. Getting shot in the head is very American. 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 7 minutes ago, Trex said: I will be contacting you in the middle of next year to rub it in when you're crying about Pettersons contract. I like Petey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 14 minutes ago, Trex said: Yes, yes, we are all morons etc etc. lol The Royal we. Nice. I should have used that. But he is a moron. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 9 minutes ago, Bure_Pavel said: Im pretty such that assassination attend just sealed a trump victory. Getting shot in the head and pulled off stage with his fist up and a USA chant going in the background, thats the most American thing Ive seen in a while. Honestly, I don't think it's going to sway non cult members much. In fact, the ensuing craziness from the cult might actually turn more people off. You think they were nuts before? Just wait 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrefan1 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 As I've said more than once, I'm not knowledgeable enough when it comes to security to have a long discussion on related matters to it, but Biden's Secretary of Homeland Security just said something I've been saying all along. The USSS screwed up. That roof needed to be handled by the USSS, not the local yokels. Quote The gunman who fired on former President Donald Trump on Saturday should never have been able to get a "direct line" of sight, Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas said. "A direct line of sight like that to the former president should not occur," Mayorkas told "Good Morning America" on Monday. "That's why president Biden directed an independent review of the incident." https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/direct-line-of-sight-should-not-occur-mayorkas-says/ar-BB1q0JWV?ocid=msedgdhp 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBearded1 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 I just find it so bewildering as to why an armed gunman was allowed to get a shot off so close to the event. There were teams of snipers looking for things like this FFS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrefan1 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 (edited) 6 minutes ago, TheBearded1 said: I just find it so bewildering as to why an armed gunman was allowed to get a shot off so close to the event. There were teams of snipers looking for things like this FFS. It's one of the things being investigated. The USSS initially claimed that the building was the responsibility of the local PD, but Secretary Mayorkas just came out and said that rooftop was the USSS responsibility. Edited July 15 by Sabrefan1 funny word omission 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 Trump's Truth Social stock soars after assassination attempt (msn.com) Trump's Truth Social stock soars after assassination attempt Shares of former President Donald Trump's social media platform Truth Social soared in early trading on Monday, extending a rally that began in the immediate aftermath of an assassination attempt two days earlier. In early trading on Monday, shares climbed about 30% to a price of $40. That figure marked the highest level for the stock in more than a month, but shares still stood well below a peak of about $62. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kootenay Gold Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 On 7/13/2024 at 6:17 PM, Dizzle said: Edit: not worth my time. I don't blame you. Too many gossip queens on here right now without any facts. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 12 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Trump's Truth Social stock soars after assassination attempt (msn.com) Trump's Truth Social stock soars after assassination attempt Shares of former President Donald Trump's social media platform Truth Social soared in early trading on Monday, extending a rally that began in the immediate aftermath of an assassination attempt two days earlier. In early trading on Monday, shares climbed about 30% to a price of $40. That figure marked the highest level for the stock in more than a month, but shares still stood well below a peak of about $62. This will all die down, especially as details come, which are probably going to show this was not really politically motivated. I think this will ramp up the zealotry inside the cult, exponentially, but might actually have the opposite effect on those Americans who still have some kind of levelled head. The coming craziness from the nutters is going to turn a lot of people off I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Smashian Kassian Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 Trump needs an insurance policy with his VP pick, I'd say Vivek is best, or maybe RFK or Tulsi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sapper Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 The conservative cancer continues The normal alt right us news ( fox and Newsmax) running stories saying the fever pitch levels that lead to this is solely on the Democrats and the other news..... Trump and PP both believe in a devine right of governance for conservatives and any one or any news report that doesn't support it is to blame for everything This is some North Korean state type shit and has no place in a democratic country. Trump and here In Canada PP both constantly yell that the other person is destroying their country and needs to be removed before it's all gone ... And they keep repeating that call to not just disagree but hate the other side. But hey ... Delusional politicians that believe in devine entitlement see their words as the gospel that can't be challenged as the words are the truth right ? So much for the conservatives taking any steps to lower the temperature.... They are cranking it up hoping for more explosive news to report .... Civility and human lived be damned 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satchmo Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Smashian Kassian said: Trump needs an insurance policy with his VP pick, I'd say Vivek is best, or maybe RFK or Tulsi None of those three will be selected. I was just looking this over. Rubio and Burgum are confirmed to be out and have received calls telling them so. Some signs are pointing to JD Vance who unusually was picked up this morning in a 3 car motorcade with police escort. His wife accompanied him. If he get's picked Vance would be the personification of political flipping to obtain a higher position. During the 2016 U.S. presidential election, Vance was an outspoken critic of Republican nominee Donald Trump. In a February 2016 USA Today column, he wrote that "Trump's actual policy proposals, such as they are, range from immoral to absurd."[100] In the Atlantic and on the PBS show hosted by Charlie Rose,[101] Vance called Trump "cultural heroin"[102] and "an opioid of the masses."[103][104] In October 2016, he called Trump "reprehensible" in a post on Twitter,[105] and called himself a "never-Trump guy."[106] In a private message on Facebook he called Trump "America's Hitler".[107] By February 2018, Vance began changing his opinion, saying Trump "is one of the few political leaders in America that recognizes the frustration that exists in large parts of Ohio, Pennsylvania, eastern Kentucky and so forth".[108] Vance supported Trump in 2020.[109] In July 2021, he apologized for calling Trump "reprehensible" and deleted posts from 2016 from his Twitter account that were critical of him.[110][111] Vance said that he now thought Trump was a good president and expressed regret about his criticism during the 2016 election.[105] Vance visited Mar-a-Lago to meet with Trump and Peter Thiel ahead of an official announcement regarding his U.S. Senate campaign.[39] In October 2021, Vance reiterated Trump's false claims of election fraud, saying that Trump lost the 2020 presidential election because of widespread voter fraud.[112] On April 15, 2022, Trump endorsed Vance for U.S. Senate.[106] After historian Robert Kagan wrote a November 2023 Washington Post opinion piece titled "A Trump dictatorship is increasingly inevitable. We should stop pretending", Vance wrote Attorney General Merrick Garland a letter suggesting Kagan be prosecuted for promoting "open rebellion" by Democrat-controlled states. Kagan said that his piece did not advocate rebellion and remarked, "It is revealing that their first instinct when attacked by a journalist is to suggest that they be locked up."[113][114] On June 30, 2024, on Face the Nation, Vance said, "I believe that the president has broad pardon authority, Margaret, but more importantly, I think the president has immunity".[115] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._D._Vance Edited July 15 by Satchmo typo 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 1 minute ago, Satchmo said: None of those three will be selected. I was just looking this over. Rubio and Burgum are confirmed to be out and have received calls telling them so. Some signs are pointing to JD Vance who unusually was picked up this morning in a 3 car motorcade with police escort. His wife accompanied him. If he get's picked Vance would be the personification of political flipping to obtain a higher position. During the 2016 U.S. presidential election, Vance was an outspoken critic of Republican nominee Donald Trump. In a February 2016 USA Today column, he wrote that "Trump's actual policy proposals, such as they are, range from immoral to absurd."[100] In the Atlantic and on the PBS show hosted by Charlie Rose,[101] Vance called Trump "cultural heroin"[102] and "an opioid of the masses."[103][104] In October 2016, he called Trump "reprehensible" in a post on Twitter,[105] and called himself a "never-Trump guy."[106] In a private message on Facebook he called Trump "America's Hitler".[107] By February 2018, Vance began changing his opinion, saying Trump "is one of the few political leaders in America that recognizes the frustration that exists in large parts of Ohio, Pennsylvania, eastern Kentucky and so forth".[108] Vance supported Trump in 2020.[109] In July 2021, he apologized for calling Trump "reprehensible" and deleted posts from 2016 from his Twitter account that were critical of him.[110][111] Vance said that he now thought Trump was a good president and expressed regret about his criticism during the 2016 election.[105] Vance visited Mar-a-Lago to meet with Trump and Peter Thiel ahead of an official announcement regarding his U.S. Senate campaign.[39] In October 2021, Vance reiterated Trump's false claims of election fraud, saying that Trump lost the 2020 presidential election because of widespread voter fraud.[112] On April 15, 2022, Trump endorsed Vance for U.S. Senate.[106] After historian Robert Kagan wrote a November 2023 Washington Post opinion piece titled "A Trump dictatorship is increasingly inevitable. We should stop pretending", Vance wrote Attorney General Merrick Garland a letter suggesting Kagan be prosecuted for promoting "open rebellion" by Democrat-controlled states. Kagan said that his piece did not advocate rebellion and remarked, "It is revealing that their first instinct when attacked by a journalist is to suggest that they be locked up."[113][114] On June 30, 2024, on Face the Nation, Vance said, "I believe that the president has broad pardon authority, Margaret, but more importantly, I think the president has immunity".[115] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._D._Vance Seems like Vivek is still a possibility, people are saying RFK is already out, Tulsi seems like a real off the radar longshot, I agree she's probably not it. Vivek > Vance as an insurance policy imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satchmo Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 3 minutes ago, Smashian Kassian said: Seems like Vivek is still a possibility, people are saying RFK is already out, Tulsi seems like a real off the radar longshot, I agree she's probably not it. Vivek > Vance as an insurance policy imo It will not be Vivek. He and RFK were never options. It's down to Vance or Scott with Stefanik as a dark horse. Of course, Trump may select off the board so who knows. We'll find out in a few hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 35 minutes ago, Smashian Kassian said: Trump needs an insurance policy with his VP pick, I'd say Vivek is best, or maybe RFK or Tulsi RFK is too much of a weirdo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking mama Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 (edited) Anyone chatting about the stolen documents case against former President Trump? Afer months of court litigation on other matters, relating to the case before going to trial…Judge Eileen Cannon, a very under-qualified appointment by Trump in the dying hours of his former administration, just dismissed the case stating the special prosecutor was illegitimately appointed! Say what?!!! After months of hard work by a plethora of people on this case & countless hours wasted in court & in the media over procedural matters & other details,…now on the even of the GOP convention the case cannot proceed? Why not just say so off the hop?!! On the evidence already in the public domain, this was the most slam-dunk case for the prosecution, ever!! The prosecutor chosen to go foreword with the case, was far less prejudicial than the US attorney-general himself and clearly far less so than the judge (apparently) randomly selected to hear this case, BUT who just happened to be appointed by Trump - himself. ^Nothing wrong with that, tho…righhhhht??!!! The US judicial system appears to have broken down under Trumplikin-will! It has been proven to be TOO slow, wasteful & unable to deliver the obvious justice required. Guilty or not, & sentencing variances aside….it was “essential” that this case be heard…& VERY expeditiously! A proven-to-be partisan judge SHOULD have been challenged for removal - from day one! This is an atrocity! She had NO merit or experience whatsoever, to hear a case of this magnitude! This is exactly why some persons feel compelled to take the law into their own hands. The NHL has had the same problems when referees on the ice do NOT do their jobs, or are allowed to do so - incompetently. Proper over-sight, correction, disqualification or dismissal for invompetence is imperative! If a player gets under-penalized or stays in a game after wrecklessly endangering the well-being of his opponent, makes inappropriate threats or commits an act of egregious violence, then vigilante retributions & actions are to be expected. This the rules of the game breakdown & cease to matter, resulting more unpredictable & explosive drama, more serious injuries…never mind, the complete loss of integrity in the games results - altogether. But, that’s IT isn’t it???! It’s now all about the spectacle & entertainment, and not about the the properly contested competition, anymore! It’s no wonder that there was an assassination attempt on DJTrump’s life, as the ultimate Teflon Don! And, it’s even more abhorrent that he really loves that there is now more drama here, to be mis-interpreted! Sound familiar??!! The NHL permits - if not appoints, their most biased & old-school referees to interfere with the fair conduct of play-off games,…which are enthusiastically gambled upon! There is little difference between them & the greedy people with powerful money meddling profusely, in the present US judicial system. None what-so-ever!!! Fix the over-sighting, the conduct & the perceptions of BOTH, people, please! CHOOSE democracy & enact some more guard/railing reforms, instead of advancing authoritarianism, pro-longing the corruption, decreasing human rights & inviting greater wealth & justice disparity around the world! Make that sacrifice wherever you are, to VOTE in the upcoming US election - if you have the right & are able!! The NHL Board of Governors also needs to VOTE to flush-out the current BOG Chairman-for-life (Jacobs) & NHL Commissioner-for-life (Bettman), to fix their inequitable mess & bring MORE integrity back to their game,..for a more progressive generation of players & spectators, to enjoy. Edited July 16 by viking mama 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johngould21 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 4 minutes ago, viking mama said: Anyone chatting about the stolen documents case against former President Trump? Afer months of court litigation on other matters, relating to the case before going to trial…Judge Eileen Cannon, a very under-qualified appointment by Trump in the dying hours of his former administration, just dismissed the case stating the special prosecutor was illegitimately appointed! Say what?!!! After months of hard work by a plethora of people on this case & countless hours wasted in court & in the media over procedural matters & other details,…now on the even of the GOP convention the case cannot proceed? Why not just say so off the hop?!! On the evidence already in the public domain, this was the most slam-dunk case for the prosecution, ever!! The prosecutor chosen to go foreword with the case, was far less prejudicial than the US attorney-general and clearly less so the judge (apparently) randomly selected to hear the case, but appointed by Trump, himself. The US judicial system appears to be broken by Trumplikin as well, it has been proven to be too slow, wasteful & unable to deliver the obvious justice required. Guilty or not, & sentencing variances aside….it was “essential” that this case be heard…& very, very expeditiously! A proven partisan judge should have been challenged for removal from day one! She had NO merit or experience whatsoever, to hear a case of this magnitude! This is exactly why some persons feel compelled to take the law into their own hands. The NHL has had the same problem when referees on the ice do NOT do their jobs, or are allowed to do do incompetently, without proper over-sight, correction, disqualification or dismissal! If a player is under-penalized or stays in a game after wrecklessly endangering the well being of his opponent, making inappropriate threats or committing an act of egregious violence, then vigilante retributions can be expected to follow, the rules of the game breakdown & cease to matter, and the result is unpredictable or explosive drama, far more serious injuries & …the complete loss of integrity in the game - altogether. But, that’s it isn’t it, it now entertainment & not a properly contested competition, anymore! No wonder there was an assassination attempt on DJTrump, as the ultimate Teflon Don! And, he really loves that there is just more drama here, now to be mis-interpreted! Sound familiar?? The NHL permits - if not appoints, their most biased & old-school referees to interfere with the fair conduct & exhibitions of play during play-off games,…which are now enthusiastically gambled upon! There is little difference between them & similar corruptions & flaws in the present US judicial system, what-so-ever! Fix the perceptions of BOTH, people! CHOOSE democracy & more guard/railing reforms, instead of enabling more authoritarianism, pro-longed corruption, fewer human rights & more wealth & justice disparity around the world …by voting in the upcoming US election - if you have the right & are able. The NHL Board of Governors also needs to vote - to flush-away the current BOG Chairman-for-life (Jacobs) & NHL Commissioner-for-life (Bettman), to fix this mess & bring far more integrity back to the game, for a more progressive generation of players & spectators, to enjoy. I'm only guessing but, I believe "judge" Canon is hoping for a SCOTUS appointment if and when tRump becomes president. She shouldn't be hearing traffic violations, let alone stolen documents. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satchmo Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 Trump picks Sen. J.D. Vance as his running mate Former President Donald Trump has selected Ohio Sen. J.D. Vance as his running mate, Trump announced on social media Monday. “After lengthy deliberation and thought, and considering the tremendous talents of many others, I have decided that the person best suited to assume the position of Vice President of the United States is Senator J.D. Vance of the Great State of Ohio,” Trump posted on Truth Social. “J.D. honorably served our Country in the Marine Corps, graduated from Ohio State University in two years, Summa Cum Laude, and is a Yale Law School Graduate, where he was Editor of The Yale Law Journal, and President of the Yale Law Veterans Association. J.D.’s book, ‘Hillbilly Elegy,’ became a Major Best Seller and Movie, as it championed the hardworking men and women of our Country. J.D. has had a very successful business career in Technology and Finance, and now, during the Campaign, will be strongly focused on the people he fought so brilliantly for, the American Workers and Farmers in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio, Minnesota, and far beyond….” 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimist Prime Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/07/moral-collapse-jd-vance/619428/ Quote The Moral Collapse of J. D. Vance Instead of a truth-teller in his own community, Vance as a candidate has become a contemptible and cringe-inducing clown. Sounds about correct as a TRUMP VP nominee. Quote What do we call a man who turns on everything he once claimed to believe? For a practitioner of petty and self-serving duplicity, we use “sellout” or “backstabber.” (Sometimes we impugn the animal kingdom and call him a rat, a skunk, or a weasel.) For grand betrayals of weightier loyalties—country and faith—we invoke the more solemn terms of “traitor” or “apostate.” But what should we call J. D. Vance, the self-described hillbilly turned Marine turned Ivy League law-school graduate turned venture capitalist turned Senate candidate? Words fail. His perfidy to his own people in Ohio is too big to allow him to escape with the label of “opportunist,” and yet the shabbiness and absurdity of his Senate campaign is too small to brand him a defector or a heretic. Quote My friend Preet Bharara, the former U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York, tried to describe Vance recently and came up with “pathetic loser poser fake jerk,” but that is a lot of words. To distill the essence of Vance as a public figure, the word that enters my mind is an anatomical reference beginning with the letter a. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24K Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Satchmo said: Trump picks Sen. J.D. Vance as his running mate Former President Donald Trump has selected Ohio Sen. J.D. Vance as his running mate, Trump announced on social media Monday. “After lengthy deliberation and thought, and considering the tremendous talents of many others, I have decided that the person best suited to assume the position of Vice President of the United States is Senator J.D. Vance of the Great State of Ohio,” Trump posted on Truth Social. “J.D. honorably served our Country in the Marine Corps, graduated from Ohio State University in two years, Summa Cum Laude, and is a Yale Law School Graduate, where he was Editor of The Yale Law Journal, and President of the Yale Law Veterans Association. J.D.’s book, ‘Hillbilly Elegy,’ became a Major Best Seller and Movie, as it championed the hardworking men and women of our Country. J.D. has had a very successful business career in Technology and Finance, and now, during the Campaign, will be strongly focused on the people he fought so brilliantly for, the American Workers and Farmers in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio, Minnesota, and far beyond….” Pretty much expected. Edited July 15 by 24K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimito Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 Not going to help expand his base. Another spineless VP pick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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