King Heffy Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 4 minutes ago, StrayDog said: My weird flex? You're the one claiming the Rothschilds are behind any number of heinous acts and now trying to backtrack on them. I'm pointing out that the statements you made are antisemitic in nature. You clearly disagree. Not to mention not providing a legitimate source, although that's to be expected as those sources aren't in the business of spreading conspiracy theories. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 3 minutes ago, StrayDog said: I'd also like to point out you've totally deflected from your Deep State dive..... You literally called me an antisemite and now you’re telling me I’m deflecting? WTF is wrong with you? Is this how you interact with people in society? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrayDog Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 1 minute ago, King Heffy said: Not to mention not providing a legitimate source, although that's to be expected as those sources aren't in the business of spreading conspiracy theories. The tinfoil gets in the way of legitimate sources.... And cue the "mainstream media not legitimate because they're part of the Deep State" rebuttal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 2 minutes ago, King Heffy said: Not to mention not providing a legitimate source, although that's to be expected as those sources aren't in the business of spreading conspiracy theories. Everything I said IS MY OPINION. If you don’t agree with it you can move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrayDog Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 Just now, Elias Pettersson said: You literally called me an antisemite and now you’re telling me I’m deflecting? WTF is wrong with you? Is this how you interact with people in society? I did. Because you made a comment that I construed as antisemitic. Meanwhile I'm still waiting for the proof of the Rothschilds bankrolling the Deep State 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerridwen Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 1 minute ago, Elias Pettersson said: Everything I said IS MY OPINION. If you don’t agree with it you can move on. Perhaps it would be 'better' if it were an INFORMED opinion? Just sayin'... 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 1 minute ago, StrayDog said: I did. Because you made a comment that I construed as antisemitic. Meanwhile I'm still waiting for the proof of the Rothschilds bankrolling the Deep State I don’t need to give you proof. I have what’s called an opinion. Like everyone else. Maybe do your own research on this if you want more information. Also, it’s deflecting from the rest of the thread so I’ll stop here. Maybe I’ll open up a new thread on the Bush family and their co-conspirators. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrayDog Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 1 minute ago, Elias Pettersson said: I don’t need to give you proof. I have what’s called an opinion. Like everyone else. Maybe do your own research on this if you want more information. Also, it’s deflecting from the rest of the thread so I’ll stop here. Maybe I’ll open up a new thread on the Bush family and their co-conspirators. If you're going to put forth your opinion as truth (which, yes, you did put it as absolute and not opinion originally), then you do need to provide proof. I agree it is taking away from the thread, so we can indeed stop here. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bishopshodan Posted August 1 Popular Post Share Posted August 1 45 minutes ago, RupertKBD said: Harv I've always thought Petey was Harv. Real Estate, Conspiracy theories, and used to hang out at the Trump nighclub in Van. Hows that for deep state? 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 19 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Everything I said IS MY OPINION. If you don’t agree with it you can move on. Or I can also state my opinion that it's bullocks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted August 1 Share Posted August 1 21 minutes ago, bishopshodan said: I've always thought Petey was Harv. Real Estate, Conspiracy theories, and used to hang out at the Trump nighclub in Van. Hows that for deep state? Deep Peet? Harv State? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SilentSam Posted August 1 Popular Post Share Posted August 1 Perfect .. the hammer drops BREAKING: Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer sends shockwaves through MAGA world by formally introducing legislation to strip away Donald Trump's broad "presidential immunity." And it gets even better... The aptly named "No Kings Act" was introduced by Schumer and 34 Senate Democrats to undo the damage inflicted by the corrupt Republican-controlled Supreme Court's decision to grant presidents immunity for "official acts." The bill would clarify and codify the law so that presidents and vice presidents are not immune to prosecution for violating federal criminal law. Better still, it would bar the Supreme Court's ability to hear challenges to the constitutionality of the new law, funneling such challenges to the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals instead. "The Founders were explicit – no man in America shall be a king. Yet, in their disastrous decision, the Supreme Court threw out centuries of precedent and anointed Trump and subsequent presidents as kings above the law," said Schumer. "Given the dangerous and consequential implications of the Court’s ruling, legislation would be the fastest and most efficient method to correcting the grave precedent the Trump ruling presented," he added. While the legislation will likely not achieve the 60 vote threshold necessary to pass, introducing it sends a powerful message to the American people. Democrats stand for democracy, Republicans stand for monarchy. If we want this bill made law, we have to vote blue and hand Democrats a stronger majority in the Senate and make sure that they seize control of the House this November. The future is in our hands. Vote blue, save America! Please retweet and if you strongly support the No Kings Act — and consider joining the growing exodus to Tribel, a new pro-democracy social network that is exploding in popularity because Twitter and Facebook are trying to stop its growth — which is only making Tribel grow even faster. Please follow us on Tribel to get all of our breaking news alerts sent straight to your phone or computer by clicking the following link: tribel.app.link/okwPIHYCIqb 1 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Optimist Prime Posted August 1 Popular Post Share Posted August 1 17 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: The only explanation is that the Secret Service allowed this to happen. The Deep State was definitely involved. I said this the day of the event, and I will say it again: you can't just shoot someone cuz you see a ballcap on a roofline. Within seconds of the first shot being fired, the sniper team took out the threat..before then, there was no threat, just a suspicious guy that some of the enforcement team were trying to look into. You know what happens when someone famous is around? Everyone that isn't close enough to get a good view tries to get up on something for a better view. You are talking like the secret service should shoot 2000 people a year for climbing up to see a famous person better, but only because this one loser was actually there to shoot someone. It is a disgusting thing that he tried to kill the former President, and he was clearly a nut job. There is no need for there to be a conspiracy behind it when it is that simple. We already know the team that would have had a clear close view of him from a window above him left their post to go look for the suspicious guy walking around the grounds...had they simply stayed put, my guess is that first shot never gets fired. Never attribute to malice what incompetence can explain. Secret Service protection team members would not have left their post if they were stationed there instead of local yocals, but you can't send a team of 200 secret service everywhere Donald Trump wants to go, that isn't how security works. Anyhow, i am aware i am wasting my time typing this, but couldn't resist. Have a good day. 3 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arrogant Worms Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 Am the only one that thinks Trump is trying to lose on purpose? No one can be that dumb. Then he grifts the cult for more money. Trump’s Campaign Is Falling Apart — And It’s All His Fault https://www.mediaite.com/opinion/trumps-campaign-is-falling-apart-and-its-all-his-fault/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilgore Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 18 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: The only explanation is that the Secret Service allowed this to happen. The Deep State was definitely involved. Okay bear with me here. I am fully cognizant that conspiracies have and do exist. Also that a governments have secrets that the public is unaware of. Mulder was right!!! What I don't understand with the charges that the far right in America makes that there is a Deep State that has ultimate power behind the scenes is that if they were against the far right, or even against conservatives in general, it would imply they are left of center at the very least. Yet the wealthiest people on the planet most often vastly support conservative parties. And it makes sense because that's the party that gives them the biggest tax breaks, cuts environmental standard requirements, opens crown land and national parks to be plundered of resources for profit, passes anti-union legislation, etc.... Yes there are exceptions. But they are few and far between. The much maligned George Soros, who's big crime is to set up an organization that promotes human rights and democracy around the world, which dictators and far right politicians just hate of course,, and use their big media companies to shit on him whenever they can. https://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/ Maybe you could add the Gate's foundation in there. Which promotes such horrid things as Agricultural Development, Family Planning, Water Sanitation and Hygiene in third world countries. https://www.gatesfoundation.org/ But there are way more billionaires on the planet that are to the right, or criminals or both. The billionaire that Clarence Thomas gets his swag from apparently has a spectacular Nazi Germany paraphernalia collection. The wealthiest ones on the planet are decidedly right wing like Musk, or Facist / criminal like Putin and the Russian oligarchs. The silicone valley boys are all behind Trump. So my question is....if there is a Deep State that is the enemy of Trump, conservatives, and much maligned by Fox News and other RW media, how does it make sense that the ones with the most money and power and influence in the world are getting owned by a left of center organization, even if they try to work in secret? Why weren't they dug up and put to bed while Trump was in office. Or even the eight year run of George W? Isn't money the ultimate corrupter? Wouldn't one suspect more that any nefarious underhanded conspiracies to bribe or pay agents to change election results for instance, be initiated from the right side of the spectrum? See, I believe there is a conspiracy. But its not some lefty deep state, its a global conspiracy of despots together with far right parties in normally democratic countries like Hungary, and Trump is eager to join and get in on the smorgasbord, to create blocks of international power in order to keep democracy from spreading, unions, worker rights, environmental laws, anything that curbs their profits and their pillaging of the planet. But I can't prove that either. But it makes more sense than some hippie enviro commies being able to have the money and power to influence decisions and organize assassinations etc and keep it all top secret. I just don't get how it could be Democrats, or BLM, or some other "woke" group who could hold that much sway. Please explain. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olli Juolevi Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 4 hours ago, bishopshodan said: Of course she knows her roots. I can see them from here, time to hit the hair salon lady. Get ‘em bish 2 hours ago, bishopshodan said: I've always thought Petey was Harv. Real Estate, Conspiracy theories, and used to hang out at the Trump nighclub in Van. Hows that for deep state? I was actually reading though the last couple pages and was going to post the same thing before I saw this. I’ve thought this for a while actually. Not sure if I’m the only one. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 33 minutes ago, The Arrogant Worms said: Am the only one that thinks Trump is trying to lose on purpose? No one can be that dumb. Then he grifts the cult for more money. Trump’s Campaign Is Falling Apart — And It’s All His Fault https://www.mediaite.com/opinion/trumps-campaign-is-falling-apart-and-its-all-his-fault/ I've said it before and still believe it now.......I honestly don't think he even wants the job. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duodenum Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 6 minutes ago, stawns said: I've said it before and still believe it now.......I honestly don't think he even wants the job. Losing most likely means jail time. He wants (needs) this a heck of a lot more than the first time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilunga Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 4 hours ago, StrayDog said: What about the Borgias? Don't count out the Medicis. They don't get the the recognition they deserve. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 29 minutes ago, kilgore said: Okay bear with me here. I am fully cognizant that conspiracies have and do exist. Also that a governments have secrets that the public is unaware of. Mulder was right!!! What I don't understand with the charges that the far right in America makes that there is a Deep State that has ultimate power behind the scenes is that if they were against the far right, or even against conservatives in general, it would imply they are left of center at the very least. Yet the wealthiest people on the planet most often vastly support conservative parties. And it makes sense because that's the party that gives them the biggest tax breaks, cuts environmental standard requirements, opens crown land and national parks to be plundered of resources for profit, passes anti-union legislation, etc.... Yes there are exceptions. But they are few and far between. The much maligned George Soros, who's big crime is to set up an organization that promotes human rights and democracy around the world, which dictators and far right politicians just hate of course,, and use their big media companies to shit on him whenever they can. https://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/ Maybe you could add the Gate's foundation in there. Which promotes such horrid things as Agricultural Development, Family Planning, Water Sanitation and Hygiene in third world countries. https://www.gatesfoundation.org/ But there are way more billionaires on the planet that are to the right, or criminals or both. The billionaire that Clarence Thomas gets his swag from apparently has a spectacular Nazi Germany paraphernalia collection. The wealthiest ones on the planet are decidedly right wing like Musk, or Facist / criminal like Putin and the Russian oligarchs. The silicone valley boys are all behind Trump. So my question is....if there is a Deep State that is the enemy of Trump, conservatives, and much maligned by Fox News and other RW media, how does it make sense that the ones with the most money and power and influence in the world are getting owned by a left of center organization, even if they try to work in secret? Why weren't they dug up and put to bed while Trump was in office. Or even the eight year run of George W? Isn't money the ultimate corrupter? Wouldn't one suspect more that any nefarious underhanded conspiracies to bribe or pay agents to change election results for instance, be initiated from the right side of the spectrum? See, I believe there is a conspiracy. But its not some lefty deep state, its a global conspiracy of despots together with far right parties in normally democratic countries like Hungary, and Trump is eager to join and get in on the smorgasbord, to create blocks of international power in order to keep democracy from spreading, unions, worker rights, environmental laws, anything that curbs their profits and their pillaging of the planet. But I can't prove that either. But it makes more sense than some hippie enviro commies being able to have the money and power to influence decisions and organize assassinations etc and keep it all top secret. I just don't get how it could be Democrats, or BLM, or some other "woke" group who could hold that much sway. Please explain. Aren’t the Bush family Republicans? That kinda dismisses your argument that the Deep State is a left wing group doesn’t it? Trump isn’t a Republican. He is MAGA. That is a faction of the Republican Party. Most normal Republicans actually hate Trump. So it’s not a left or right thing. JFK was a Democrat was he not? So why would a left wing Deep State want to kill him? Reagan was from California. He was an actor. So he wasn’t part of the Republican Deep State either. Trump used to be a Democrat. He’s never really been a Republican either for most of his life. Anyways, this is all my opinion. If you want to believe the one shooter theory for JFK when the JFK files that were released proved there was a second gunman then by all means go for it. Same with Trump. I guess the Secret Service is just really incompetent. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 2 minutes ago, Duodenum said: Losing most likely means jail time. He wants (needs) this a heck of a lot more than the first time. Nah losing means a nice view of the Moskva River. He'll flee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 Just now, Elias Pettersson said: Aren’t the Bush family Republicans? That kinda dismisses your argument that the Deep State is a left wing group doesn’t it? Trump isn’t a Republican. He is MAGA. That is a faction of the Republican Party. Most normal Republicans actually hate Trump. So it’s not a left or right thing. JFK was a Democrat was he not? So why would a left wing Deep State want to kill him? Reagan was from California. He was an actor. So he wasn’t part of the Republican Deep State either. Trump used to be a Democrat. He’s never really been a Republican either for most of his life. Anyways, this is all my opinion. If you want to believe the one shooter theory for JFK when the JFK files that were released proved there was a second gunman then by all means go for it. Same with Trump. I guess the Secret Service is just really incompetent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 Nice to see Biden trump Trump by getting the prisoners in Russia freed, after trump says Putin would only do it for him. Methinks Putin sees the writing on the wall 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satchmo Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 9 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Aren’t the Bush family Republicans? That kinda dismisses your argument that the Deep State is a left wing group doesn’t it? Trump isn’t a Republican. He is MAGA. That is a faction of the Republican Party. Most normal Republicans actually hate Trump. So it’s not a left or right thing. JFK was a Democrat was he not? So why would a left wing Deep State want to kill him? Reagan was from California. He was an actor. So he wasn’t part of the Republican Deep State either. Trump used to be a Democrat. He’s never really been a Republican either for most of his life. Anyways, this is all my opinion. If you want to believe the one shooter theory for JFK when the JFK files that were released proved there was a second gunman then by all means go for it. Same with Trump. I guess the Secret Service is just really incompetent. Some people just like to kill presidents. Luckily, not very many people actually try it but it happens from time to time. Kennedy's assassination had so many weird aspects to it that lingering questions remain. Not all answers are good. No one really knows what happened and should probably avoid saying that they do lest other people say 'how the fuck do you know?'. This is first time I've heard of a Reagan conspiracy. Pretty sure it was the deranged lone wolf Hinkley trying to impress Jody Foster. Trump conspiracies have only just begun. Pretty sure it was the deranged lone wolf Thomas Crooks trying to kill anybody famous, get himself famous, and get himself shot. He was a smart kid though and seemed to have outwitted the Secret Service (who were just really incompetent). Now, if we do go for conspiracies for them all, it's the Bush family right? Don't worry about them being Republican. The Multi Party Deep State doesn't care. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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