US Politics Thread

[Jaimito]

1 minute ago, Ghostsof1915 said:

I'm more curious about the $2 Billion the Saudi's gave to the Drumpf Crime Family.

Or that $10 million from Egypt 

 

 

 

[Jaimito]

 

 

[Gurn]

26 minutes ago, Bob Long said:

 

Wtf is "Kamabla"?

Somethings slip out, when we talk too much or angry.

Mabla.

Man

and

boy

love association.

 

Guy can't help throwing himself under the bus, yet 30% of the people down there don't  care about things like morals and ethics.

Edited August 7 by Gurn

[Bob Long]

3 minutes ago, Gurn said:

Somethings slip out, when we talk too much or angry.

Mabla.

Man

and

boy

love association.

 

Guy can't help throwing himself under the bus, yet 30% of the people down there don't  care about things like morals and ethics.

 

It's weird. But I guess that tracks.

 

 

[Ghostsof1915]

This is what I can't wrap my head around.

Normally any President or candidate saying people are "suckers" for joining the military. And has such clear hatred for the military, I am stunned that Americans would support someone like that. Military Service is front and centre on every sporting event. Yet Pumpkinhead treats them like trash.

How does he get away with that? Or do a lot of Americans secretly hate the military?

[Wilbur]

1 minute ago, Ghostsof1915 said:

This is what I can't wrap my head around.

Normally any President or candidate saying people are "suckers" for joining the military. And has such clear hatred for the military, I am stunned that Americans would support someone like that. Military Service is front and centre on every sporting event. Yet Pumpkinhead treats them like trash.

How does he get away with that? Or do a lot of Americans secretly hate the military?

No, I'm sure they don't like what Trump says about the military, but they're conditioned to think all Democrats are extreme socialists and they think they hate socialism WAY more.  

[stawns]

4 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said:

This is what I can't wrap my head around.

Normally any President or candidate saying people are "suckers" for joining the military. And has such clear hatred for the military, I am stunned that Americans would support someone like that. Military Service is front and centre on every sporting event. Yet Pumpkinhead treats them like trash.

How does he get away with that? Or do a lot of Americans secretly hate the military?

 

Because it's a cult

[Ghostsof1915]

Just now, Wilbur said:

No, I'm sure they don't like what Trump says about the military, but they're conditioned to think all Democrats are extreme socialists and they think they hate socialism WAY more.  

Yet tax dollars to bail out American businesses and banks is totally ok.

 

[Bob Long]

3 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said:

This is what I can't wrap my head around.

Normally any President or candidate saying people are "suckers" for joining the military. And has such clear hatred for the military, I am stunned that Americans would support someone like that. Military Service is front and centre on every sporting event. Yet Pumpkinhead treats them like trash.

How does he get away with that? Or do a lot of Americans secretly hate the military?

 

You have to ignore so much to be a trumper. But that's the power of someone who can manipulate feelings. I have no doubt millions of maga's would participate in a civil war for him. 

[SilentSam]

Awww he’s wounded ,.  Wants pity ,  feel sorry time…

 

 

 

[Bob Long]

1 minute ago, SilentSam said:

Awww he’s wounded ,.  Wants pity ,  feel sorry time…

 

 

 

 

Does syphilis leave scars?

 

[Ghostsof1915]

3 minutes ago, SilentSam said:

Awww he’s wounded ,.  Wants pity ,  feel sorry time…

 

 

 

All the makeup and plastic surgery in the world will never make him beautiful.

[Ghostsof1915]

4 minutes ago, Bob Long said:

 

Does syphilis leave scars?

 

Beat me to it.

[SilentSam]

BREAKING: Donald Trump's first big attack on Kamala Harris' vice presidential pick backfires as he slams Tim Walz for "embracing policies to allow convicted felons to vote."

The problem? Trump himself is a felon. He was convicted on 34 counts in New York for his hush money crimes.

In other words, Trump is implying that he himself should be unable to vote.

In the same pathetic attack, Trump also called Walz a "West Coast wannabe," whatever that means, and asserted that he's "dangerously liberal." In this case, "dangerously liberal" means providing free food to hungry school students.

Clearly, MAGA has absolutely nothing to attack Walz on. They know that he's done an incredible job as Governor of Minnesota, is a loving family man, and is more than ready to be vice president.

Contrast the warm, likeable Walz with the deeply creepy and off-putting J.D. Vance. Walz is the kind of guy you could get a beer with. Vance is someone you wouldn't want to leave alone with your family.

The choice is clear.

Please retweet and if you think that Tim Walz will make a great vice president — and consider joining the growing exodus to Tribel, a new pro-democracy social network that is exploding in popularity because Twitter and Facebook are trying to stop its growth — which is only making Tribel grow even faster. Please follow us on Tribel to get all of our breaking news alerts sent straight to your phone or computer by clicking the following link: tribel.app.link/okwPIHYCIqb

 

 

 

[Ghostsof1915]

He looks hideous in a golf shirt. Him without a shirt would cause millions to upchuck.

[Bob Long]

8 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said:

Beat me to it.

 

My other thought was "pigmata" but I've offended the religious types on here a lot lately.

[Ghostsof1915]

Can you withdraw from a Presidential election from bone spurs? Or a wounded ego? Just curious.

[The Arrogant Worms]

[stawns]

20 minutes ago, SilentSam said:

BREAKING: Donald Trump's first big attack on Kamala Harris' vice presidential pick backfires as he slams Tim Walz for "embracing policies to allow convicted felons to vote."

The problem? Trump himself is a felon. He was convicted on 34 counts in New York for his hush money crimes.

In other words, Trump is implying that he himself should be unable to vote.

In the same pathetic attack, Trump also called Walz a "West Coast wannabe," whatever that means, and asserted that he's "dangerously liberal." In this case, "dangerously liberal" means providing free food to hungry school students.

Clearly, MAGA has absolutely nothing to attack Walz on. They know that he's done an incredible job as Governor of Minnesota, is a loving family man, and is more than ready to be vice president.

Contrast the warm, likeable Walz with the deeply creepy and off-putting J.D. Vance. Walz is the kind of guy you could get a beer with. Vance is someone you wouldn't want to leave alone with your family.

The choice is clear.

Please retweet and if you think that Tim Walz will make a great vice president — and consider joining the growing exodus to Tribel, a new pro-democracy social network that is exploding in popularity because Twitter and Facebook are trying to stop its growth — which is only making Tribel grow even faster. Please follow us on Tribel to get all of our breaking news alerts sent straight to your phone or computer by clicking the following link: tribel.app.link/okwPIHYCIqb

 

 

 

 

There's truly nothing they can throw at Walz that can't be thrown back at them x10.

[King Heffy]

31 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said:

All the makeup and plastic surgery in the world will never make him beautiful.

I dunno, I'd be pretty happy to see him in a coffin.

[Smashian Kassian]

12 hours ago, Wilbur said:

Huh, Hillary conceded very early the next morning in 2016.  That's hardly contesting it.

 

11 hours ago, Sapper said:

Hush ..... That doesn't support the narrative of conservative historical re writes lol

 

Then she proceeded to call him an illegitimate president, and the Democrats went on a crusade to impeach him with the Russiagate conspiracy theory.

 

No need to try & ignore it, every election this century has been contested by the otherside.

 

I'm also not a conservative

 

11 hours ago, DSVII said:

Even if true, which I doubt, this is less egregious than the Republicans plan to having loyalists in each state that will refuse to certify the votes. Not to mention the lawsuits they are already cynically preparing to contest the swing states even before a ballot is cast. Dems had already conceded before and Trump pulled Jan 6 in response to his loss. 

 

There is no equivalence here. The Republicans are doing this not only more frequently but in greater magnitude and are actively eroding the democratic institutions for their win.

 

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/election-deniers-refuse-certify-chaos-2024-1234988747/

 

10 hours ago, RupertKBD said:

 

I share your doubts....

 

If you look at other Amuse X content, it's all MAGA garbage....including a purported "open letter" from Tim Walz' fellow servicemen, in which his is referred to a "Traitorous, Fraudluent and Shameful"....

 

I'd be willing to bet (if it was possible to know the truth) that both parties cheat to some extent in every election.

 

As I said Dems went on a crusade with Russiagate in '16, they had the FBI collude with social media sites to censor the Biden laptop story in '20, and have been pushing more non-citizens to vote for a long time which itself could be argued as a subversion of the process. 

 

And I don't blame them at all, like I said I think both parties cheat to get an edge every election. But if you hold democracy dear you that has to be across the board. If you just want your party to win b/c the stakes are so high that's fine too, that's certainly their perspective. 

[King Heffy]

1 minute ago, Smashian Kassian said:

 

 

Then she proceeded to call him an illegitimate president, and the Democrats went on a crusade to impeach him with the Russiagate conspiracy theory.

 

He was impeached because he tried to turn the country into a Nazi dictatorship with the assistance of Putin.  Do you think Trump should have been allowed to commit his crimes against humanity with impunity?

[Smashian Kassian]

14 hours ago, Boudrias said:

Bottom line is that the DNC removed Biden as he had demonstrated the inability to continue on as POTUS. The GOP has labeled that as a coup. It does not change the reality. Americans will have a choice Trump or Harris. Both have a large constituency in the USA. Instead of debating ideas and policy both sides deal in personal attack and ridicule. It is reckless and puts democracy at risk. Many Democrats would have stood by Biden even tho he was obviously not capable. Many Republicans will stand by Trump who morally is not worthy of the job. Many of America's enemy's feed the divide that exists inside the USA. It must be resolved or the world will descend to anarchy. Do Westerners really understand what is at risk? Russia-China-North Korea-Iran are ran by evil people who would love nothing more than dominating the world. 

 

So many have deferred their defense to the Americans because they have defended the world since WW2. So many countries have not prepared themselves to defend their freedom. Canada is one of those countries. It is shameful. As Europe slowly rearms in defense of Ukraine, Canadians should reflect on how many of our grandparents and parents sacrificed themselves in WW1 & WW2 so that we can sit on our fat asses today. At least Joe Biden recognized the Russian threat and reacted. At least Donald Trump threatened his NATO allies into spending more on their defense. It is more than most have done.  

 

Sure but its also been this way for a very long time. Maybe the rhetoric has elevated in the 'Trump era', but the election is always a popularity contest. Divide & conquer has been very successful.

 

Trump has attacked the border problem and other issues but its hardly in some in-depth way that makes you think he understands the issue. Just him saying some things are problems & stating 'I'll fix it cause I'm so great'. I do think this could be an issue for Harris though, she's tied to the Biden era and regardless of what some stats may indicate I think alot of people feel worse off & will just blame it on who's in charge. I haven't really heard much from here on policy stuff other than abortion. The debate will be very interesting in that regard.

 

You bring up a great point about US being the defenders of the West. I do think its complicated though in that I believe many voters in the US don't want to police the world & would prefer cutting military spending to focus more at home - this has been a point from both sides at different periods of time. But obviously the military-industrial complex & those donors (to both parties) also drive the American military to remain in that role to a significant extent. 

 

I honestly don't think the differences between the 2 cultures can be resolved. Especially at this point, both sides are calling this election the end of America if their side loses. Its basically like being on 4th down with 30 seconds left in the game & your team is down 45 points. Plus theres been a long-term vested interest from powerful people behind the scenes to keep people divided, and any political unity attempts outside the 2 parties have been DOA, so this is inevitable conclusion.

 

Maybe they could go into a more republic model that gives states total control, less federal gov't intervention domestically, to keep the federal gov't together for international matters. Or else the country fragments & the new countries remain in NATO. But idk, feels like the train is already halfway off the tracks, I don't know how you turn an imploding empire around. 

[stawns]

1 minute ago, Smashian Kassian said:

 

Sure but its also been this way for a very long time. Maybe the rhetoric has elevated in the 'Trump era', but the election is always a popularity contest. Divide & conquer has been very successful.

 

Trump has attacked the border problem and other issues but its hardly in some in-depth way that makes you think he understands the issue. Just him saying some things are problems & stating 'I'll fix it cause I'm so great'. I do think this could be an issue for Harris though, she's tied to the Biden era and regardless of what some stats may indicate I think alot of people feel worse off & will just blame it on who's in charge. I haven't really heard much from here on policy stuff other than abortion. The debate will be very interesting in that regard.

 

You bring up a great point about US being the defenders of the West. I do think its complicated though in that I believe many voters in the US don't want to police the world & would prefer cutting military spending to focus more at home - this has been a point from both sides at different periods of time. But obviously the military-industrial complex & those donors (to both parties) also drive the American military to remain in that role to a significant extent. 

 

I honestly don't think the differences between the 2 cultures can be resolved. Especially at this point, both sides are calling this election the end of America if their side loses. Its basically like being on 4th down with 30 seconds left in the game & your team is down 45 points. Plus theres been a long-term vested interest from powerful people behind the scenes to keep people divided, and any political unity attempts outside the 2 parties have been DOA, so this is inevitable conclusion.

 

Maybe they could go into a more republic model that gives states total control, less federal gov't intervention domestically, to keep the federal gov't together for international matters. Or else the country fragments & the new countries remain in NATO. But idk, feels like the train is already halfway off the tracks, I don't know how you turn an imploding empire around. 

 

I really dislike the need people seem to have to equalize the discord and division in the US and Canada.  Truly, only one side is cutting themselves off from the rest of us.

[Smashian Kassian]

22 minutes ago, King Heffy said:

He was impeached because he tried to turn the country into a Nazi dictatorship with the assistance of Putin.  Do you think Trump should have been allowed to commit his crimes against humanity with impunity?

 

I'd prefer all presidents/politicians who commit crimes to face consequences, including Trump. But this is the world we live in. 

 

I do think the Dems didn't have much going with that attack though as we saw.