US Politics Thread

[bishopshodan]

9 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

 

This one might be real

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

These are all 100% AI generated response openers.  All of them.

 

Like calling a help line from the phillippines or india and getting someone who responds to your every statement from a script starting with "I understand"

 

I'm not even sorry, the hallmark of today's conservative rhetoric has always been disingenuous laziness and finger pointing.  If anything I am just resigned to the fact this is who you all are.

 

It should get rid of 'I understand'

We learn that at work...you cant 'understand' someones pov, without walking in their shoes.

We try to say ' I hear what you are saying' ....or something along those lines.

Edited August 16 by bishopshodan
haha, just saw the clip above

[Warhippy]

1 minute ago, bishopshodan said:

 

It should get rid of 'I understand'

We learn that at work...you cant 'understand' someones pov, without walking in their shoes.

We try to say ' I hear what you are saying' ....or something along those lines.

It is so infuriating to hear someone mumble that response because they literally can not understand.  Experience and situations are rarely if ever shared in a manner that it could be understood by anyone else in the way you feel or experienced it.

 

 

[Smashian Kassian]

15 hours ago, Bob Long said:

 

Just because you have questions, it doesn't mean that there are answers.

 

This reminds me of the zeal the moon landing deniers had. That's the path you are on.

 

 

There are clearly more answers than what we've gotten given (a) there has been no report, and (b) the 2 hearings contained many no comment responses to valid+important questions. 

 

Even if for arguments sake there's nothing more too it, the castostrophic failure of the USSS is still a bigger story & these organizations clearly need to be re-evaluated if this is where they are at. This isn't a waiter forgetting your drink.

 

I don't think you appreciate how bad things could've gotten if he was successful, or maybe you just don't care cause it's Trump.

 

14 hours ago, The Lock said:

 

In my opinion, if we looked for a motive in every little thing before looking at how to improve things and figuring out what went wrong... we'd just fall behind as a society. This is especially going to be the case with anything political at the moment.

 

Think about it, if someone came up with a motive, you have 2 very different sides right now: left and right. These sides are very much at odds with each other, arguably more at odds than that country has ever seen since the civil war. What are the chances both sides are going to agree with that motive? They're not going to agree. My guess is this is why a lot of questions have remained unanswered... because half the population doesn't want to hear the answers depending on what the actual answers are.

 

I really think that, until we see some sanity in the states, some of those questions might actually be best left unanswered. Perhaps my stance feels insane to you as well, but look at the states. It's insane no matter what.

 

This is a crime investigation, finding motive is & has always been part-in-parcel of conducting an investigation. 

 

In this case I think the whole country wants to know the truth. I think your point applies to some other things, but even if it does I don't think that's a valid reason to not hide the truth.

 

Hiding truth only compounds issues in the long-run & will increase the divide imo. And I think the states are likely hopelessly divided anyways so.

 

14 hours ago, Bob Long said:

 

We have an answer on motive, the kid was not well. 

 

People who are anti government tho can't accept that. There "must" be more. No, there really doesn't .

 

 

Not being well isn't a motive as to why he commited this act as opposed to any other. John Hinckle Jr was not well & had a motive to shoot Reagan. And as I said it doesn't absolve the Secret Service, this is 3 billion dollar organization if there's no funny business & it's just this bad then perhaps it's unfit to exist in its current form.

 

I don't think we are going to agree. You seem to think Govt/Agencies are benevolent & well meaning, but they sometimes just make mistakes. I think that's naive especially for the US, and that they + the interests they are driven by are more concerned with their hold on power than helping the public or 'democracy'. We can agree to disagree.

 

Edited August 16 by Smashian Kassian

[King Heffy]

6 minutes ago, bishopshodan said:

 

It should get rid of 'I understand'

We learn that at work...you cant 'understand' someones pov, without walking in their shoes.

We try to say ' I hear what you are saying' ....or something along those lines.

 

 

 

[RupertKBD]

10 hours ago, nuckin_futz said:

Why do you guys bother with these tools? Yeah let's sign up to a hockey forum in August and head right for the politics section. Because that's a totally normal/random thing to do.

 

Surely you guys can't be that bored that you'd chase this fool's laser pointer?

 

Agreed, although I appreciate 24k for tearing those bullet points apart one by one....

 

For me, I look at it as a game of trying to figure out which formerly banned account this guy had. There are so many possibilities....

[stawns]

26 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

Not gonna lie, I didn't catch it but omfg look at eveyr single response and how it is worded as an introduction, then the prevailing bullet points.

 

This reads almost frame by frame like a Chat GOT generated series of responses

 

Look at the beginning of every single response.  The first two lines.

 

That is 100% an AI generated response

 

I could tell from the very first post.  I don't have any issues with using AI, when you use it to refine your own ideas, but that's to really what's happening here, imo.

 

[King Heffy]

1 minute ago, stawns said:

 

I could tell from the very first post.  I don't have any issues with using AI, when you use it to refine your own ideas, but that's to really what's happening here, imo.

 

Yeah it feels like talking to a machine instead of a person.

[stawns]

1 hour ago, bishopshodan said:

 

 

Is that why the quotations are in some posts?

 

When you copy and paste with ai, it comes with certain punctuation and symbols that you have to get rid of.  When I copy something from chat got, headings are usually framed with ** and titles are preceded with ####

[Bob Long]

33 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

Not gonna lie, I didn't catch it but omfg look at eveyr single response and how it is worded as an introduction, then the prevailing bullet points.

 

This reads almost frame by frame like a Chat GOT generated series of responses

 

Look at the beginning of every single response.  The first two lines.

 

That is 100% an AI generated response

 

Clam AI 

[stawns]

1 minute ago, King Heffy said:

Yeah it feels like talking to a machine instead of a person.

 

Again, I have no issues with ai, but in a live discussion or debate it's pretty disingenuous 

[Bob Long]

3 minutes ago, stawns said:

 

I could tell from the very first post.  I don't have any issues with using AI, when you use it to refine your own ideas, but that's to really what's happening here, imo.

 

 

Yep. If you want to engage people in fake conversation, it's a great strategy.

[Bob Long]

13 minutes ago, Smashian Kassian said:

 

There are clearly more answers than what we've gotten given (a) there has been no report, and (b) the 2 hearings contained many no comment responses to valid+important questions. 

 

Even if for arguments sake there's nothing more too it, the castostrophic failure of the USSS is still a bigger story & these organizations clearly need to be re-evaluated if this is where they are at. This isn't a waiter forgetting your drink.

 

I don't think you appreciate how bad things could've gotten if he was successful, or maybe you just don't care cause it's Trump.

 

 

This is a crime investigation, finding motive is & has always been part-in-parcel of conducting an investigation. 

 

In this case I think the whole country wants to know the truth. I think your point applies to some other things, but even if it does I don't think that's a valid reason to not hide the truth.

 

Hiding truth only compounds issues in the long-run & will increase the divide imo. And I think the states are likely hopelessly divided anyways so.

 

 

Not being well isn't a motive as to why he commited this act as opposed to any other. John Hinckle Jr was not well & had a motive to shoot Reagan. And as I said it doesn't absolve the Secret Service, this is 3 billion dollar organization if there's no funny business & it's just this bad then perhaps it's unfit to exist in its current form.

 

I don't think we are going to agree. You seem to think Govt/Agencies are benevolent & well meaning, but they sometimes just make mistakes. I think that's naive especially for the US, and that they + the interests they are driven by are more concerned with their hold on power than helping the public or 'democracy'. We can agree to disagree.

 

 

I do think government has on balance been very good for us. 

 

Please explain to me how we got to our current standard of living without it.

[King Heffy]

5 minutes ago, stawns said:

 

Again, I have no issues with ai, but in a live discussion or debate it's pretty disingenuous 

I'm not a fan in general, but this feels no different than when I called Air Canada and spent 10 minutes yelling at the automated system before I could get through to an actual person.

[Elias Pettersson]

1 hour ago, Bob Long said:

 

We are arguing with  ai program responses.

 

 

Makes sense Bob would be arguing with a computer.  

[Elias Pettersson]

1 hour ago, bishopshodan said:

 

This part smells like one of my buds on here, as bob menitoned.

 

hi Petey

You’re too smart to be arguing with a computer my friend.  Bob’s doing a great job though. I have to give him credit. 

[Bob Long]

5 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said:

Makes sense Bob would be arguing with a computer.  

 

I tried praying to it, but, well, you know. 

[6of1_halfdozenofother]

3 minutes ago, Bob Long said:

 

I tried praying to it, but, well, you know. 

 

Only works if it's @Vintage Canuck 

[Elias Pettersson]

4 minutes ago, Bob Long said:

 

I tried praying to it, but, well, you know. 

Hi Bob,

 

Praying to Jesus is an act of faith and devotion in Christianity. Many Christians view prayer as a way to communicate with Jesus, seeking guidance, comfort, forgiveness, and strength. Prayers can take various forms—such as personal conversations, meditations, or formal prayers—often focusing on the teachings and life of Jesus Christ.

Some common forms of prayer to Jesus include:

1. **Personal Prayer**: Speaking to Jesus directly, sharing personal thoughts, worries, or gratitude.
2. **The Lord’s Prayer**: A model prayer that Jesus taught his disciples, starting with "Our Father who art in heaven..." (Matthew 6:9-13).
3. **Prayer of Repentance**: Asking Jesus for forgiveness for sins and seeking spiritual healing.
4. **Intercessory Prayer**: Praying for the needs of others, asking Jesus to intervene or bless them.
5. **Thanksgiving Prayer**: Offering thanks to Jesus for blessings and support in life.

Prayer is often viewed as a two-way interaction: speaking to Jesus and listening for His guidance in return. Many also pray in Jesus' name, reflecting belief in His role as an intercessor to God the Father.

[Bob Long]

Just now, Elias Pettersson said:

Hi Bob,

 

Praying to Jesus is an act of faith and devotion in Christianity. Many Christians view prayer as a way to communicate with Jesus, seeking guidance, comfort, forgiveness, and strength. Prayers can take various forms—such as personal conversations, meditations, or formal prayers—often focusing on the teachings and life of Jesus Christ.

Some common forms of prayer to Jesus include:

1. **Personal Prayer**: Speaking to Jesus directly, sharing personal thoughts, worries, or gratitude.
2. **The Lord’s Prayer**: A model prayer that Jesus taught his disciples, starting with "Our Father who art in heaven..." (Matthew 6:9-13).
3. **Prayer of Repentance**: Asking Jesus for forgiveness for sins and seeking spiritual healing.
4. **Intercessory Prayer**: Praying for the needs of others, asking Jesus to intervene or bless them.
5. **Thanksgiving Prayer**: Offering thanks to Jesus for blessings and support in life.

Prayer is often viewed as a two-way interaction: speaking to Jesus and listening for His guidance in return. Many also pray in Jesus' name, reflecting belief in His role as an intercessor to God the Father.

 

seriously tho, which one are you using? Tusk? RightWingGPT? 

[stawns]

2 minutes ago, Bob Long said:

 

seriously tho, which one are you using? Tusk? RightWingGPT? 

 

 

Notice the **

[Bob Long]

Just now, stawns said:

 

 

Notice the **

 

Petey is a liberal, tho. 

 

its just so telling. These guys can't debate maga or PP type conservatism honestly. 

[stawns]

4 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said:

Hi Bob,

 

Praying to Jesus is an act of faith and devotion in Christianity. Many Christians view prayer as a way to communicate with Jesus, seeking guidance, comfort, forgiveness, and strength. Prayers can take various forms—such as personal conversations, meditations, or formal prayers—often focusing on the teachings and life of Jesus Christ.

Some common forms of prayer to Jesus include:

1. **Personal Prayer**: Speaking to Jesus directly, sharing personal thoughts, worries, or gratitude.
2. **The Lord’s Prayer**: A model prayer that Jesus taught his disciples, starting with "Our Father who art in heaven..." (Matthew 6:9-13).
3. **Prayer of Repentance**: Asking Jesus for forgiveness for sins and seeking spiritual healing.
4. **Intercessory Prayer**: Praying for the needs of others, asking Jesus to intervene or bless them.
5. **Thanksgiving Prayer**: Offering thanks to Jesus for blessings and support in life.

Prayer is often viewed as a two-way interaction: speaking to Jesus and listening for His guidance in return. Many also pray in Jesus' name, reflecting belief in His role as an intercessor to God the Father.

 

Anc prayer is to be done in private, not in public, so modern Christianity has no foundation, at all, in JC.

 

, “When you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men … but when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your father who is unseen.”

 

Matthew 6: 5-8

[stawns]

2 minutes ago, Bob Long said:

 

Petey is a liberal, tho. 

 

its just so telling. These guys can't debate maga or PP type conservatism honestly. 

 

And Hitler was a left wing socialist

[RupertKBD]

6 minutes ago, Bob Long said:

seriously tho, which one are you using? Tusk? RightWingGPT? 

 

My money is on ChatGOP....

 

Either that, or RNCopilot......

[Elias Pettersson]

18 minutes ago, Bob Long said:

 

seriously tho, which one are you using? Tusk? RightWingGPT? 

 
Hi Bob,

 

Thank you for your feedback. 
 

It sounds like you're referring to the idea of an AI with a specific political leaning, particularly aligned with conservative or right-wing ideologies. However, my purpose is to remain neutral and objective, ensuring that I provide balanced, fact-based, and non-partisan responses. My goal is to assist users regardless of their political views, providing accurate and relevant information in an unbiased manner.

If you have specific questions or topics related to conservative views, I'm happy to discuss them within that framework while maintaining a balanced approach.