The Arrogant Worms Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 Donald Trump rants that 'famine' will come to America if Kamala Harris is elected https://www.rawstory.com/kamala-harris-vs-trump-2668979250/ 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimito Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 2 minutes ago, The Arrogant Worms said: Donald Trump rants that 'famine' will come to America if Kamala Harris is elected https://www.rawstory.com/kamala-harris-vs-trump-2668979250/ Also according to him, everyone will get free health care too becuase she's a communist. Trump is a broken record playing oldies on repeat. He's out of ideas. A rerun of Apprentice season 10. Sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 28 minutes ago, nuckin_futz said: Yeah, but did you see the number of likes it got? Checkmate libtards. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuckin_futz Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 Erik Prince is the brother of former Education Secretary Betsy deVos. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 38 minutes ago, 24K said: She really need to explain and give detail on that grocery price gouging one. For sure, but she can at least get the headline out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24K Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 2 minutes ago, Bob Long said: For sure, but she can at least get the headline out there. Not sure if it is actually helping or hurting her with that headline without the context. Vacuum of information allowed MAGA to effectively call it price control and actually land that communist attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24K Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 8 minutes ago, nuckin_futz said: Erik Prince is the brother of former Education Secretary Betsy deVos. "Only the best people" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 5 minutes ago, 24K said: Not sure if it is actually helping or hurting her with that headline without the context. Vacuum of information allowed MAGA to effectively call it price control and actually land that communist attack. That only lands with conservatives. Many others will be happy to hear she's thinking about their grocery bill . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24K Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 2 minutes ago, Bob Long said: That only lands with conservatives. Many others will be happy to hear she's thinking about their grocery bill . Maybe but I will never underestimate how American brains are broken with cold war era anti Soviet propaganda. This one may trigger that programing being analogous to the Ukraine famine even though price control had nothing to do with that one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrefan1 Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 (edited) *deleted* Someone already posted. Edited August 16 by Sabrefan1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 2 minutes ago, Sabrefan1 said: This CNN clip is trending. Ignore the right leaning tweeter. CNN is blasting Kamala suggesting price controls. Historically price controls have only been a good thing during short term emergency situations. Soviet Union? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrefan1 Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 (edited) 1 minute ago, Bob Long said: Soviet Union? I dunno. Just saw the tweet 10 minutes ago. I am clueless on what has been put forth. I just saw you guys talking about it so I deleted my post worried that I double posted someone else's post. Edited August 16 by Sabrefan1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 Just now, Sabrefan1 said: I dunno. Just saw the tweet 10 minutes ago. I am clueless on what has been put forth. I just saw you guys talking about it so I deleted my post worried that I double posted someone else's post. I wasn't laughing at you, but at the clip. How is someone supposed to take a Soviet comp seriously? People know that they are getting shafted on their grocery bills, I suspect there will be a lot of positive reaction to this. Maybe not with the media looking for an instant freak out reaction 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrefan1 Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 1 minute ago, Bob Long said: I wasn't laughing at you, but at the clip. How is someone supposed to take a Soviet comp seriously? People know that they are getting shafted on their grocery bills, I suspect there will be a lot of positive reaction to this. Maybe not with the media looking for an instant freak out reaction Price controls in non-emergency situations is a stupid idea, but I'm not going to just take CNN's word for it. I'm gonna wait to see if there is nuance in what she's put forth. I have to believe that her advisors aren't stupid enough to have her propose a flat out Marxist action. I'll re-post the CNN post here so people don't continue to think CNN is an innocent virgin as far as news orgs go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 5 minutes ago, Bob Long said: Soviet Union? Well, maybe she is meaning a decades and decades old reference? Wouldnt be out of line with the rest she went on about. If you listen to what she says its a bit confusing as to what is bad the policy... She starts out with the disclaimer " nobody knows what price gouging means"....then doesnt tell us, does she know? other than " you know it when you see it, like porn" ?!?! In the middle she has to say " some bureaucrat deciding" ....is that worse than leaving it up to the companies...we have seen some bullshit here in Canada with groceries Then she ends with saying making public companies show their quarterlies and how they set prices is a bad thing....somehow that would help them collude. This lady is an expert? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sabrefan1 Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 1 minute ago, bishopshodan said: Well, maybe she is meaning a decades and decades old reference? Wouldnt be out of line with the rest she went on about. If you listen to what she says its a bit confusing as to what is bad the policy... She starts out with the disclaimer " nobody knows what price gouging means"....then doesnt tell us, does she know? other than " you know it when you see it, like porn" ?!?! In the middle she has to say " some bureaucrat deciding" ....is that worse than leaving it up to the companies...we have seen some bullshit here in Canada with groceries Then she ends with saying making public companies show their quarterlies and how they set prices is a bad thing....somehow that would help them collude. This lady is an expert? If what has been proposed is straight out of Marx's Communist Manifesto then it's a stupid thing to propose. However I'd imagine that there is much more nuance than "derp" "price controls" "derp" in what was proposed by her campaign. I haven't yet had a chance to look and see if they published anything. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24K Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 What I am going to assume what Harris is trying to say with price gouging here is grocery store maintaining high prices while actual prices for produces and the like, non processed foods, have fallen since covid as these are commodities. So the only effective way to tackle that is for more competition and breakup the like of Walmart, Albertsons, and Kroger. Message should have been more trust busting in the food market rather than about gouging. That and giving more tools to the FTC to go after price fixing and random restriction of supply like the whole egg pricing debacle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 Just now, Sabrefan1 said: If what has been proposed is straight out of Marx's Communist Manifesto then it's a stupid thing to propose. However I'd imagine that there is much more nuance than "derp" "price controls" "derp" in what was proposed by her campaign. I haven't yet had a chance to look and see if they published anything. In what context could someone in the US push a truly Marxist policy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 Just now, Sabrefan1 said: If what has been proposed is straight out of Marx's Communist Manifesto then it's a stupid thing to propose. However I'd imagine that there is much more nuance than "derp" "price controls" "derp" in what was proposed by her campaign. I haven't yet had a chance to look and see if they published anything. This is anecdotal and obviously from a guy who does business in Canada but I knew a guy for a while that owned a bunch of grocery stores. He was also owned liquor stores, he lead a business group I was a memeber of. He spoke of stories about the grocery giants that werehorrendous. That they are all helping each other out. Said Kraft were one of the worst. I know you have seen the diagrams of just how few companies own ALL the food. So, given what I learned from that dude and the fact that Canada just had a scandal, i am in support of Kamala knocking some heads on this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrefan1 Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 Just now, Bob Long said: In what context could someone in the US push a truly Marxist policy? You can push anything you want to. The problem nowadays would be, you will be called out immediately by everyone if you propose something that continually fails when tried. The Harris campaign is very aware of that so that's why I would think there's much more nuance to whatever is being proposed. Or Harris, in an effort to look better as far as tabletop economics goes just went off script and is now regretting it. We'll find out sooner or later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrefan1 Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 Just now, bishopshodan said: This is anecdotal and obviously from a guy who does business in Canada but I knew a guy for a while that owned a bunch of grocery stores. He was also owned liquor stores, he lead a business group I was a memeber of. He spoke of stories about the grocery giants that werehorrendous. That they are all helping each other out. Said Kraft were one of the worst. I know you have seen the diagrams of just how few companies own ALL the food. So, given what I learned from that dude and the fact that Canada just had a scandal, i am in support of Kamala knocking some heads on this. For me, it depends on what's being proposed. If she wants to break up the near monopolies, then I'm all for it and will cheer her on. Huge conglomerates are bad for everyone except the top .1% of society. I doubt she'll do it, but I hope she does if she's elected. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24K Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 6 minutes ago, Bob Long said: In what context could someone in the US push a truly Marxist policy? Subsidies baby! Guaranteed purchasing of some commodity goods like dairy, wheat, and corn is another one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 1 hour ago, Sabrefan1 said: I dunno. Just saw the tweet 10 minutes ago. I am clueless on what has been put forth. I just saw you guys talking about it so I deleted my post worried that I double posted someone else's post. When CNN turned on Joe, Joe had to go. Is CNN now turning on Kamala? Is the jig up? Is there another switcheroo coming? Is Petey really gonna go 2 for 2? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarcore Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 9 hours ago, RupertKBD said: Luckily enough, my coworkers don't cook their lunch on campus, so I don't have to worry about that part.... If I'm being honest my own house is just as bad every time the wife decides to make a batch of Kimchi.... Dated a Korean....no it is not even closely as bad. At least Kimchi is awesome once made Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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