nuckin_futz Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bob Long said: but didn't this wiener start the whole thing I'm not sure what the democrats have to gain in all this, probably nothing. Unless a handful of moderate republicans are so sick of all this crap they side with the democrats on some key votes. But then thats political suicide in the US. The Dems look like the sober option. Like I said in the past, Dems say stupid things. Republicans DO stupid things. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrefan1 Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Bob Long said: I guess lets revisit this if some poor bugger gets shot because Trump makes a tweet. And its not emotional to point out the guy is a threat to some peoples physical safety, that seems to be a real thing. The only people in recent political memory that got shot because of rhetoric was a baseball diamond full of Republican congressman playing softball. Several years or so ago, a hyper-partisan Democrat walk up to them and started plugging away at them with a rifle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, Sabrefan1 said: The only people in recent political memory that got shot because of rhetoric was a baseball diamond full of Republican congressman playing softball. Several years or so ago, a hyper-partisan Democrat walk up to them and started plugging away at them with a rifle. OK, and what does that have to do with Trump? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, Sabrefan1 said: The only people in recent political memory that got shot because of rhetoric was a baseball diamond full of Republican congressman playing softball. Several years or so ago, a hyper-partisan Democrat walk up to them and started plugging away at them with a rifle. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/05/us/politics/jan-6-capitol-deaths.html These are all directly caused by Trump's domestic terrorism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrefan1 Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 6 minutes ago, Bob Long said: but didn't this wiener start the whole thing I'm not sure what the democrats have to gain in all this, probably nothing. Unless a handful of moderate republicans are so sick of all this crap they side with the democrats on some key votes. But then thats political suicide in the US. He's having a temper tantrum. Democrats will rightfully use this as a speaking point against Republicans when making their point to swing voters. The line with a fair amount of truth will be, "If they can't decide on a speaker, how can they decide on what's best for the country." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrefan1 Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 1 minute ago, King Heffy said: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/05/us/politics/jan-6-capitol-deaths.html These are all directly caused by Trump's domestic terrorism. Rhetoric can kill. There's no denying that. But for someone to actually pick up a gun and hunt people down is a different animal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, Sabrefan1 said: He's having a temper tantrum. Democrats will rightfully use this as a speaking point against Republicans when making their point to swing voters. The line with a fair amount of truth will be, "If they can't decide on a speaker, how can they decide on what's best for the country." it is pretty funny. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrefan1 Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, Bob Long said: OK, and what does that have to do with Trump? Nothing. That wasn't the point I was making. I'm not obsessed with His Orangeness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrefan1 Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 Just now, Bob Long said: it is pretty funny. Funny but with a side of scary truth. I'm as amused as most with this, but it definitely highlights how broken the politics and the people running this country are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johngould21 Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 44 minutes ago, the destroyer of worlds said: I think that TRUMP wouldn't refuse his Secret Service detail like Nixon did, so the detail would go with him. They wouldn't be in the cell, but would likely be outside his cell and at the entrance to to block. I've seen reports that he currently has 10 - 12 agents on duty at any one time. TRUMP obviously wouldn't serve in Gen Pop, something the prison system already deals with somewhat with certain inmates. It's going to be a problem regardless whether he gets prison time, or gets house arrest. I think for him, the conviction will be the bigger story. At this point, prison time will just be the cherry on top. I've always said he'd look fabulous in orange. He wouldn't have to dye his hair either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johngould21 Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 13 minutes ago, Sabrefan1 said: Funny but with a side of scary truth. I'm as amused as most with this, but it definitely highlights how broken the politics and the people running this country are. "This Country" is NOT great at all. Trump proved all that in the last 8 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johngould21 Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 23 minutes ago, Sabrefan1 said: The only people in recent political memory that got shot because of rhetoric was a baseball diamond full of Republican congressman playing softball. Several years or so ago, a hyper-partisan Democrat walk up to them and started plugging away at them with a rifle. You're forgetting Nancy Pelosi's husband getting whacked on the head with a hammer. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrefan1 Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Johngould21 said: "This Country" is NOT great at all. Trump proved all that in the last 8 years. Certain aspects of the country are not great. However if this country sucked so much, we wouldn't have the rush of people illegally entering it that we do. I have my issues with the US, but I'm not sure which country I would live in other than it if I had my choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrefan1 Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 Just now, Johngould21 said: You're forgetting Nancy Pelosi's husband getting whacked on the head with a hammer. That was from a crazy person. That wasn't politically motivated. That whole thing was just plain weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playoff Beered Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 25 minutes ago, Sabrefan1 said: The only people in recent political memory that got shot because of rhetoric was a baseball diamond full of Republican congressman playing softball. Several years or so ago, a hyper-partisan Democrat walk up to them and started plugging away at them with a rifle. Giffords? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Tucson_shooting 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johngould21 Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Sabrefan1 said: No, fining him large amounts of money is more effective than sticking him in a kennel with a protective detail that wouldn't even allow the front of the cage to be shut or locked. In the meantime he'll grift how much money to do so? You yourself has said he's ca$h poor. That's the real harm that's going on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johngould21 Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, Sabrefan1 said: Certain aspects of the country are not great. However if this country sucked so much, we wouldn't have the rush of people illegally entering it that we do. I have my issues with the US, but I'm not sure which country I would live in other than it if I had my choice. How about looking at the foreign aid that tRump and his band of gypsies cut to those Central American countries. That's the only reason they're coming to 'merica. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrefan1 Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Playoff Beered said: Giffords? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Tucson_shooting Yep. That one I definitely forgot about. Good memory! So that makes 2 in the last 12 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satchmo Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Sabrefan1 said: That was from a crazy person. That wasn't politically motivated. That whole thing was just plain weird. Agree, disagree, and agree (in the same order as your three sentences). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johngould21 Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, Sabrefan1 said: That was from a crazy person. That wasn't politically motivated. That whole thing was just plain weird. Incited by whose voice in his head? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrefan1 Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, Johngould21 said: In the meantime he'll grift how much money to do so? You yourself has said he's ca$h poor. That's the real harm that's going on. He'll keep grifting millions of dollars, but unless he's stiffing these lawyers (which would be in character) they are costing him thew lion's share of the money he is taking in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6of1_halfdozenofother Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, Sabrefan1 said: However if this country sucked so much, we wouldn't have the rush of people illegally entering it that we do. A country can have opportunities that others want to take up and can still suck so hard that paint can be stripped from a vehicle. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johngould21 Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 Just now, Sabrefan1 said: He'll keep grifting millions of dollars, but unless he's stiffing these lawyers (which would be in character) they are costing him thew lion's share of the money he is taking in. All while he's saying these funds are for his election campaign. What a scammer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrefan1 Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Satchmo said: Agree, disagree, and agree (in the same order as your three sentences). Fair enough. That whole goofy thing is something I'd rather not parse out anyways. There's more to that entire story than what came out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrefan1 Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, Johngould21 said: Incited by whose voice in his head? I dunno. He never publicly addressed anything. The news kept that one quiet shortly after it happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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