Bob Long Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 3 hours ago, Alflives said: The world is fortunate Biden beat Trump in 2020. And (IMHAO) Biden will beat Trump (if he is the Republican nominee) again in 2024. I don't think so unfortunately. Maybe if he sheds Harris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arrogant Worms Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Trump and allies plot revenge, Justice Department control in a second term https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-and-allies-plot-revenge-justice-department-control-in-a-second-term/ar-AA1jpyY0 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arrogant Worms Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Remember when the USA had a President who was funny and articulent? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuckin_futz Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 A preview of what a 2nd term would look like. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maninthebox Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 3 hours ago, The Arrogant Worms said: Remember when the USA had a President who was funny and articulent? Reagan? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spur1 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 2 hours ago, Maninthebox said: Reagan? Well…funny… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 LOL "articulent" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24K Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 11 hours ago, Bob Long said: I don't think so unfortunately. Maybe if he sheds Harris. Sadly I think you are right. Trump is gonna win in 2024. New NYT shows Biden losing by at least 4% in battleground states. The Dems need to kick Biden to the curb if they want to prevent Trump. These poll numbers are atrocious. It is really no fault of Biden but current economic conditions will punish the incumbents in elections no matter what one did or align with. Fair or not, people believe the president have way more control over things than they actually do. Biden have a good economy by the numbers but fails the vibe test and that I will attribute to X with financial advise influencers/grifters falling over each claiming recessions is coming for clout. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 15 hours ago, Bob Long said: I don't think so unfortunately. Maybe if he sheds Harris. 70% of Americans do not support Biden. If he was 10 years younger he probably gets re-elected. Does that mean Trump gets re-elected? Over 50% of Americans do not think the last election was conducted fairly. Not one investigation in serious voter fraud has proven in favor of Trump. My hope is he is convicted of serious crime and that the GOP nominate Haley as their candidate. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Boudrias said: 70% of Americans do not support Biden. If he was 10 years younger he probably gets re-elected. Does that mean Trump gets re-elected? Over 50% of Americans do not think the last election was conducted fairly. Not one investigation in serious voter fraud has proven in favor of Trump. My hope is he is convicted of serious crime and that the GOP nominate Haley as their candidate. I actually like Haley as well. Yeah Biden is such a bad choice and Harris just makes it easy for voters to turn away from them as a good choice. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RupertKBD Posted November 6, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 6, 2023 I've learned not to expect rational thinking from voters, so I won't rule out Trump being re-elected, but I'm not getting too worked up about current poll numbers. Right now, the only one campaigning is Donald Trump. In fact, he's been campaigning for about a year now. (If you're wondering why he started so soon, all you have to do is look at all of his whining about "election interference" as it pertains to his criminal indictments, to understand why) Technically, he's running for the Republican nomination, but in his mind (or what passes for one) he's already won that and his campaign is for POTUS. What this means, is that he's "playing the game" before it's even started. Joe Biden hasn't run a single campaign ad. The American public hasn't been subjected to a flood of advertising showing Trump running the country from a jail cell. They haven't been subjected to ad after ad of Trump bragging about having killed Roe v Wade.....or about him promising to cull US Intelligence agencies of anyone not loyal to him personally. Those are just three things off the top of my head. There's a laundry list of things the Biden Campaign can hammer Donald Trump on. You want to talk about the economy? Sure. Let's start with the NY fraud trial. The so-called business genius, who's financial strategy is based on lying and (quite possibly) is no longer allowed to a business in his home state.... The game hasn't even started and some folks are handing Trump the win, because of a couple of polls? I'm not throwing in the towel yet.... 4 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Arrogant Worms Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Judge Threatens to Toss Trump Off Witness Stand, Warns Lawyer: ‘Control Him’ Or ‘I Will’ https://www.mediaite.com/trump/judge-threatens-to-toss-trump-off-witness-stand-warns-lawyer-control-him-or-i-will/ 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 2 hours ago, RupertKBD said: I've learned not to expect rational thinking from voters, so I won't rule out Trump being re-elected, but I'm not getting too worked up about current poll numbers. Right now, the only one campaigning is Donald Trump. In fact, he's been campaigning for about a year now. (If you're wondering why he started so soon, all you have to do is look at all of his whining about "election interference" as it pertains to his criminal indictments, to understand why) Technically, he's running for the Republican nomination, but in his mind (or what passes for one) he's already won that and his campaign is for POTUS. What this means, is that he's "playing the game" before it's even started. Joe Biden hasn't run a single campaign ad. The American public hasn't been subjected to a flood of advertising showing Trump running the country from a jail cell. They haven't been subjected to ad after ad of Trump bragging about having killed Roe v Wade.....or about him promising to cull US Intelligence agencies of anyone not loyal to him personally. Those are just three things off the top of my head. There's a laundry list of things the Biden Campaign can hammer Donald Trump on. You want to talk about the economy? Sure. Let's start with the NY fraud trial. The so-called business genius, who's financial strategy is based on lying and (quite possibly) is no longer allowed to a business in his home state.... The game hasn't even started and some folks are handing Trump the win, because of a couple of polls? I'm not throwing in the towel yet.... I think the view is "as things stand today" it's pretty clear Trump has a very good shot at winning. What does it mean for Canada? Probably not much initially, Trump will be obsessed with revenge internally for a while and Trudeau is likely gone in 2025. I think it's easy to argue the Biden-Harris ticket is a weak one as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arrogant Worms Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 ‘Laughing Stock’: Read the Scathing Private Email Romney Wrote About Trump’s Performance as President https://www.mediaite.com/politics/laughing-stock-read-the-scathing-private-email-romney-wrote-about-trumps-performance-as-president/ He was the last person I wanted as the Republican nominee. I made that clear. After he won the nomination, I watched his campaign to see if he might surprise me. He did not. When he won, I hoped he would rise to the occasion . His call for me to potentially serve at State fueled that hope—after all, I had been a very vocal detractor. Unfortunately, President Trump did not grow to match the office. His smallness has instead diminished it. The American President has long served as a model for the nation; few would imagine holding Donald Trump up for their children to emulate. Around the world, he, and to some degree the nation that elected him, have become a laughing stock. His poverty of character has been exposed so often and in so many ways that many here have become inured to it. Not so for those who watch him from abroad. I was asked repeatedly to apologize for what I said about Donald Trump, to say that having spent more time with him, I had learned that I was wrong. I demurred. But in truth, I did not imagine that he would be so tragic as president. The incessant lying, the adulterer payoffs, the unwillingness to study and deliberate, the weakening of alliances, the elevation of autocrats, the impetuous decision, the demonizing of others, the divisiveness, the inability to hire and retain people of accomplishment — these are as stunning to me as they are to others. I did not think he would be this bad. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nuckin_futz Posted November 6, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 6, 2023 (edited) Testimony seems to be going well. .......... Judge Repeatedly Asks Lawyers to ‘Control’ Trump as Testimony Goes Off the Rails Donald Trump was rebuked by Judge Arthur Engoron for giving “speeches” during his testimony on Monday before New York court in a civil fraud trial that will determine the future of his business empire. At one point Engoron warned the former president’s attorneys that he would dismiss Trump from the stand if they did not get him under control. “I beseech you to control him if you can,” Engoron said. “If you can’t, I will. I will excuse him and draw every negative inference that I can.” The warning came after the judge repeatedly cautioned Trump against delivering political diatribes in lieu of answers. “Some of your answers have not been in response to the question,” Engoron told Trump earlier in his testimony, adding that prosecuting attorney Kevin Wallace had been “very patient.” After repeated attempts to get Trump’s testimony back on track, Engoron told Trump’s attorneys that “this is not a political rally” and suggested that maybe they “need to have a talk with him right now.” Trump opened his testimony by accusing Wallace and “every other Democrat […] coming after me from 15 different sides” of being all “haters.” A visibly frustrated Engoron repeatedly pushed Trump to answer the questions posed by the state’s attorneys before asking his attorneys if they could “control” their client, but the situation continued to spiral. Trump attorney Alina Habba at one point stood up and argued that the judge was there to listen to what Trump had to say. “I am not here to listen to what he has to say!” Engoron reportedly shouted, telling Trump’s counsel to sit back down. “We are here to hear him answer questions,” he added. “This is a very, very unfair trial, very. And I hope the public is watching it,” Trump quipped. The former president, his adult sons, and several of his business associates were already found liable for fraud by Judge Arthur Engoron in September, who ruled that Trump’s flagship company, the Trump Organization, overvalued his properties and inflated his net worth over several years. Engoron ordered the dissolution of the company’s business licenses and LLCs, with the trial determining what damages and penalties are owed by the defendants. On Monday, Trump was questioned on the manner in which his company’s financial statements were created, and whether or not he felt the valuations of his assets had been accurate. At one point he indicated that he had sometimes felt the values assigned to his properties were off, but stated that the discrepancies were both “high and low.” Trump also told the court that if he’d wanted to inflate his net worth, he would have done it by adding “brand value here and I would’ve increased it by tens of millions of dollars.”At one point, while he was being questioned on a 2021 financial statement, Trump claimed to have been too busy focusing on “China, Russia and keeping our country safe.” The state’s attorney reminded him that he was not president in 2021. New York Attorney General Letitia James addressed reporters before court on Monday, calling out Trump’s attempts to discredit her and the case. “Before he takes the stand, I am certain that he will engage in name-calling, and taunts, and race-baiting, and call this a witch hunt,” she said. “But at the end of the day, the only thing that matters are the facts and the numbers. And numbers, my friends, don’t lie.” Trump has been doing exactly that. Hours before appearing in court, the former president took to Truth Social to attack Engoron, James, and President Joe Biden. “Getting ready to head to the Downtown Lower Manhattan Courthouse to testify in one of the many cases that were instigated and brought by my POLITICAL OPPONENT, Crooked Joe Biden, through agencies and surrogates, for purposes of ELECTION INTERFERENCE,” Trump wrote. “Got a really Biased, Nasty, Club controlled, but often overturned, Judge, a Racist, Evil, and Corrupt Attorney General,” he added.” A dark day for our Country. WITCH HUNT!” Trump defended himself outside the courtroom. “These are political operatives that I’m going to be dealing with right now,” he told reporters, again calling James a “racist” and claiming that he had actually undervalued his properties and assets on his financial statements. Edited November 6, 2023 by nuckin_futz 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Bob Long said: I think the view is "as things stand today" it's pretty clear Trump has a very good shot at winning. What does it mean for Canada? Probably not much initially, Trump will be obsessed with revenge internally for a while and Trudeau is likely gone in 2025. I think it's easy to argue the Biden-Harris ticket is a weak one as well. My hope is that a center independent option evolves. The 2 extremes of progressives with AOC on the left and Trumpists on the right. Center right GOP and center left Dems form a unity party. I think it would win. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sharpshooter Posted November 6, 2023 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 6, 2023 1 hour ago, nuckin_futz said: Testimony seems to be going well. .......... Judge Repeatedly Asks Lawyers to ‘Control’ Trump as Testimony Goes Off the Rails Donald Trump was rebuked by Judge Arthur Engoron for giving “speeches” during his testimony on Monday before New York court in a civil fraud trial that will determine the future of his business empire. At one point Engoron warned the former president’s attorneys that he would dismiss Trump from the stand if they did not get him under control. “I beseech you to control him if you can,” Engoron said. “If you can’t, I will. I will excuse him and draw every negative inference that I can.” The warning came after the judge repeatedly cautioned Trump against delivering political diatribes in lieu of answers. “Some of your answers have not been in response to the question,” Engoron told Trump earlier in his testimony, adding that prosecuting attorney Kevin Wallace had been “very patient.” After repeated attempts to get Trump’s testimony back on track, Engoron told Trump’s attorneys that “this is not a political rally” and suggested that maybe they “need to have a talk with him right now.” Trump opened his testimony by accusing Wallace and “every other Democrat […] coming after me from 15 different sides” of being all “haters.” A visibly frustrated Engoron repeatedly pushed Trump to answer the questions posed by the state’s attorneys before asking his attorneys if they could “control” their client, but the situation continued to spiral. Trump attorney Alina Habba at one point stood up and argued that the judge was there to listen to what Trump had to say. “I am not here to listen to what he has to say!” Engoron reportedly shouted, telling Trump’s counsel to sit back down. “We are here to hear him answer questions,” he added. “This is a very, very unfair trial, very. And I hope the public is watching it,” Trump quipped. The former president, his adult sons, and several of his business associates were already found liable for fraud by Judge Arthur Engoron in September, who ruled that Trump’s flagship company, the Trump Organization, overvalued his properties and inflated his net worth over several years. Engoron ordered the dissolution of the company’s business licenses and LLCs, with the trial determining what damages and penalties are owed by the defendants. On Monday, Trump was questioned on the manner in which his company’s financial statements were created, and whether or not he felt the valuations of his assets had been accurate. At one point he indicated that he had sometimes felt the values assigned to his properties were off, but stated that the discrepancies were both “high and low.” Trump also told the court that if he’d wanted to inflate his net worth, he would have done it by adding “brand value here and I would’ve increased it by tens of millions of dollars.”At one point, while he was being questioned on a 2021 financial statement, Trump claimed to have been too busy focusing on “China, Russia and keeping our country safe.” The state’s attorney reminded him that he was not president in 2021. New York Attorney General Letitia James addressed reporters before court on Monday, calling out Trump’s attempts to discredit her and the case. “Before he takes the stand, I am certain that he will engage in name-calling, and taunts, and race-baiting, and call this a witch hunt,” she said. “But at the end of the day, the only thing that matters are the facts and the numbers. And numbers, my friends, don’t lie.” Trump has been doing exactly that. Hours before appearing in court, the former president took to Truth Social to attack Engoron, James, and President Joe Biden. “Getting ready to head to the Downtown Lower Manhattan Courthouse to testify in one of the many cases that were instigated and brought by my POLITICAL OPPONENT, Crooked Joe Biden, through agencies and surrogates, for purposes of ELECTION INTERFERENCE,” Trump wrote. “Got a really Biased, Nasty, Club controlled, but often overturned, Judge, a Racist, Evil, and Corrupt Attorney General,” he added.” A dark day for our Country. WITCH HUNT!” Trump defended himself outside the courtroom. “These are political operatives that I’m going to be dealing with right now,” he told reporters, again calling James a “racist” and claiming that he had actually undervalued his properties and assets on his financial statements. Best part was having to inform Trump that he wasn’t President in 2021. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johngould21 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 9 minutes ago, Sharpshooter said: Best part was having to inform Trump that he wasn’t President in 2021. Oh those damn details. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted November 6, 2023 Author Share Posted November 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, Johngould21 said: Oh those damn details. Fake details I’m sure. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuckin_futz Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Eventually he's going to regret having hired this nutbar as his lawyer............ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 9 minutes ago, nuckin_futz said: Eventually he's going to regret having hired this nutbar as his lawyer............ Ties to Russia!? Now, i was told many times that was a nothing burger. Was totally deeeeeebunked , come on sheeple wake up! or, something... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuckin_futz Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 5 minutes ago, bishopshodan said: Ties to Russia!? Now, i was told many times that was a nothing burger. Was totally deeeeeebunked , come on sheeple wake up! or, something... None of it matters until Republican voters say it matters. The only thing that will get through to them is election losses. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arrogant Worms Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 On The Stand, Trump Admits To Adjusting Property Valuations https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-admits-adjusting-property-valuations-fraud_n_65491837e4b0e3ecaf8a4b58 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistolPete13 Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 On 11/4/2023 at 6:29 PM, Cerridwen said: Gad, I wish he'd just slither back under the rock he crawled out from. And then United Concrete dumps a load of freshly turned cement all over top of said rock. Only the Dotard could call “our murderers” nice people compared to their murderers, coming in caravans from South America and parts of Africa. Unhinged lunatic. Yet the local yokels gobble it up and want to make him the Commander in Chief. Why are people drawn in? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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