US Politics Thread

[Gurn]

" Just because he was shown shaking hands with Nick Fuentes, doesn't mean he's a racist'

'just because he was shown shaking hands with Kim Jung ill, doesn't mean he supports and loves dictators'

 

Same guy then posts

 

'see him in this picture, shaking hands with Mohamed Ali,  that means he's not racist'

 

like seriously- what up with that type of thinking?

[24K]

1 hour ago, Cranston said:

You must be fairly young or have memory failure. He only became a racist when he ran for the Republican nomination. Before that he was the toast of Hollywood. Can you find a single suggestion of him being a racist before that? Good luck .

Trump literally was the one that came up and promoted Obama birther conspiracy. 

[Warhippy]

1 hour ago, Elias Pettersson said:

What’s going on with Kamala?  Is her 15 minutes of fame over?  She was never a strong candidate at all, I said this many times.  Pretty sure Biden would be doing better right now…

 

 

Interesting.

 

Seems the big polls and the averages actually say otherwise.  Why would that be EP?  Why when we look at an overall average does it not say what one single twitter picked poll says?

 

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/national/

 

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/national/

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj4x71znwxdo

 

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/us/elections/polls-president.html

https://www.270towin.com/2024-presidential-election-polls/national

 

 

[Warhippy]

1 hour ago, Cranston said:

Spin it however you want, he suggests criminality is genetic, maybe it is, I don't know or care.

Then by that token him and his kids should never be allowed near the white house or government money ever again because like their dad, they are all genetically predisposed to criminal behaviours.

 

That IS what he is saying no?

[Warhippy]

1 hour ago, Gurn said:

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/desantis-administration-threatens-local-tv-station-for-airing-abortion-rights-campaign-ads/ar-AA1rNsMx?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=f038d59b304b4146ea108b5249738f9a&ei=70

"

Ron DeSantis’s administration has appeared to threaten a local TV station with legal action for airing an abortion rights campaign ad.

The ad in question is the same one that aired in Florida during the vice presidential debate between Tim Walz and JD Vance. It features a woman named Caroline who needed to have an abortion and cancer treatments after a brain tumor diagnosis in 2022.

Such a difficult situation would have been complicated by Florida’s six-week abortion ban today.

“The doctors knew that if I did not end my pregnancy, I would lose my baby, I would lose my life, and my daughter would lose her mom,” the woman says. “Florida has now banned abortion … even in cases like mine. Amendment 4 is gonna protect women like me.”

The letter — dated October 3 and sent by the Florida Department of Health to WFLA TV’s vice president Mark Higgins — was shared on social media by journalist Jason Garcia, who accused the administration of “trying to intimidate” the TV station.

The DeSantis administration had previously been accused of using his election police dragnet to target citizens who signed a petition that successfully put Amendment 4 on November’s ballots.

Florida is one of several states with reproductive rights on the ballot this November. If passed, Amendment 4 would enshrine the right to abortion care in the state’s constitution, effectively overturning the six-week ban.

The department claims the ad is illegal under section 386.01 of Florida law that allows the state to remove any "nuisance" that "threatens or impairs" people’s health.

“The advertisement is not only false; it is dangerous,” the letter reads.

The Health Department said that if the ad is not removed within 24 hours, the department will initiate legal proceedings to obtain an injunction.

Critics have accused the state government of “fascism” and trying to silence political rivals.

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more at link.

Free speech and all that right?  from the state that carried the fight against masks because bodily autonomy is everything.

 

No irony or hypocrisy of course

[RupertKBD]

1 hour ago, Cranston said:

You must be fairly young or have memory failure. He only became a racist when he ran for the Republican nomination. Before that he was the toast of Hollywood. Can you find a single suggestion of him being a racist before that? Good luck .

 

https://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2017/02/trump-fbi-files-discrimination-case-235067
 

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Most of those interviewed said they were not aware of any discrimination. However, some of the records recount the stories of black rental applicants who said they were told no apartments were available, while whites sent to check on the same apartments were offered leases.

The records, posted on the FBI's Freedom of Information Act website, include a 1974 interview with a former doorman at a Trump building in Brooklyn.

A supervisor "told me that if a black person came to 2650 Ocean Parkway and inquired about an apartment for rent, and he, that is [redacted] was not there at the time, that I should tell him that the rent was twice as much as it really was, in order that he could not afford the apartment," the ex-doorman said.

 

 

Edited 2 hours ago by RupertKBD

[Gurn]

Just now, Warhippy said:

Free speech and all that right?  from the state that carried the fight against masks because bodily autonomy is everything.

 

No irony or hypocrisy of course

Whole repug /Drumpf thing is weird regarding abortion.

 

'Drumpf --'I'm leaving abortion rights up to the states- as they are best to decide the rights of half their population'

also  

Drumpf- ' I'm going to pass a law making it illegal for a state to decide to ban a certain type of car'.

 

 

[Satchmo]

1 hour ago, Cranston said:

You must be fairly young or have memory failure. He only became a racist when he ran for the Republican nomination. Before that he was the toast of Hollywood. Can you find a single suggestion of him being a racist before that? Good luck .

 

Odd that I did exactly that - actually I found more than 'a single suggestion' - from 'before that' and you discounted it as some kind of fake news or alternative facts.

[Warhippy]

Speaking of windbags Florida and the like.

 

Here comes Milton!

 

Maybe Florida can make a law where Hurricanes aren't allowed to make land or something

 

Good thing the GOP voted against hurricane relief.  Good thing the GOP thinks that government assistance is socialism.  Even better that the US president, Vice president and essentially entire Democratic party at all levels don't care and are willing to help regardless.

 

https://apnews.com/article/hurricane-milton-helene-florida-557c5c512135e0a8661b298e45e17c92

 

BELLEAIR BEACH, Fla. (AP) — Milton rapidly strengthened into a Category 5 hurricane Monday in the Gulf of Mexico on a path toward Florida, threatening a dangerous storm surge in Tampa Bay, leading to evacuation orders and long gas lines, and lending more urgency to the cleanup from Hurricane Helene, which swamped the same stretch of coastline less than two weeks ago.

A hurricane warning was issued for parts of Mexico’s Yucatan state, which expected to get sideswiped, and much of Florida’s west coast was under hurricane and storm surge watches. Florida’s Lake Okeechobee, which often floods during intense storms, was also under a hurricane watch.

[Warhippy]

1 minute ago, Satchmo said:

Odd that I did exactly that - actually I found more than 'a single suggestion' - from 'before that' and you discounted it as some kind of fake news or alternative facts.

Show me proof, show me one single example!

 

Nooooooo not like that, your examples and proof are to example and proofy

[PistolPete13]

2 hours ago, Cranston said:

That's the best you can come up with? He's saying criminals foreigners are sending have bad genes not the foreigners. Yes he's racist against criminals. lol.

All that self loathing. Good thing your guy has no sense of shame. 

[RupertKBD]

1 minute ago, Warhippy said:

Speaking of windbags Florida and the like.

 

Here comes Milton!

 

Maybe Florida can make a law where Hurricanes aren't allowed to make land or something

 

Good thing the GOP voted against hurricane relief.  Good thing the GOP thinks that government assistance is socialism.  Even better that the US president, Vice president and essentially entire Democratic party at all levels don't care and are willing to help regardless.

 

https://apnews.com/article/hurricane-milton-helene-florida-557c5c512135e0a8661b298e45e17c92

 

BELLEAIR BEACH, Fla. (AP) — Milton rapidly strengthened into a Category 5 hurricane Monday in the Gulf of Mexico on a path toward Florida, threatening a dangerous storm surge in Tampa Bay, leading to evacuation orders and long gas lines, and lending more urgency to the cleanup from Hurricane Helene, which swamped the same stretch of coastline less than two weeks ago.

A hurricane warning was issued for parts of Mexico’s Yucatan state, which expected to get sideswiped, and much of Florida’s west coast was under hurricane and storm surge watches. Florida’s Lake Okeechobee, which often floods during intense storms, was also under a hurricane watch.

 

I think I saw some tweet trolling the Repugs (and MTG in particular) saying "Hey guys, I'm aiming this one right for Mar-a-Lago:....

[Gator]

15 hours ago, King Heffy said:

Size would definitely be an issue.  Hard to aim with something smaller than an acorn.

So many questions. I should probably mind my own business...

[StrayDog]

2 hours ago, Cranston said:

Spin it however you want, he suggests criminality is genetic, maybe it is, I don't know or care.

Did you honestly just state that criminality might be genetic?! 

[nuckin_futz]

 

[24K]

2 minutes ago, nuckin_futz said:

 

The last thing they need is starlink. 

Cell services is way more important.

 

[Satchmo]

37 minutes ago, StrayDog said:

Did you honestly just state that criminality might be genetic?! 

Even worse than that - he does not know, he does not care,  and thinks Trump has every right to say it is.   Free speech I guess and not anywhere near as bad as shouting 'Fire!' in a crowed theatre (or classroom).

[Curmudgeon]

Just a quick reminder that Trump is no longer able to make sense about anything. Here is a recent transcript from one of his rally ramblings wherein he fantasizes about allowing the police to be allowed one violent day.

 

"What the hell is going on? See, we have to let the police do their job. And if they have to be extraordinarily rough. And you know the funny thing with all of that stuff. Look at the department stores. Same thing. They walk into a, you see these guys walking out with air conditioners with the refrigerator on their back. The craziest thing, and the police aren't allowed to do their job. They're told, if you do anything, you're going to lose your pension, you're going to lose your family, your house, your car. The police want to do it. The Border Patrol wants to do it. Border Patrol, they're incredible. They want to do it. They're not allowed to do it because the liberal left won't let them do it. The liberal left wants to destroy them and they want to destroy our country. You know, if you had one day, like one real rough nasty day with the drug stores, as an example, where when they start walking out with, you know, she created something in San Francisco. $950, you're allowed to steal. Anything above that, you will be prosecuted. It works out that the 950 is a misnomer because you can steal whatever you want, you can go away above. But you'd see it originally, you saw kids walking with calculators. They would calculate. They didn't want to go over the $950 they're standing with calculated, adding it up. You know, these are smart people. They're not so stupid, but they have to be taught. Now,  if you had one really violent day, like Mike Kelly put him in charge, Congressman Kelly put him in charge for one day. Mike, would you say he right here? He's a great Congressman. Would you say Mike that if you were in charge, you would say, "oh, please, don't touch them. Don't touch them. Let them rob your store. These stores go out of business, right? They don't pay rent. They're the city to survive. They'll hold. It's a chain of events. It's so bad. One rough hour. And I mean real rough. The word will get out. And it will end immediately and immediately. You know, it'll end immediately."

 

Trump calls it the weave. Anyone else with an IQ above 85 calls it gibberish. Never mind being a president or a statesman, he isn't even a functional adult. 

[RupertKBD]

All you Republican fans, remember this if people are killed by Hurricane Milton....It will be because of Ron DeSantis, not Kamala Harris (or Joe Biden who, despite what Repugs would like you to think, is still POTUS)

 

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/we-didn-t-answer-desantis-not-taking-vp-harris-calls-about-storm-because-they-seem-political/ar-AA1rQnuI?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=cd0e04742ed44c7497ade363281966ea&ei=85

 

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Gov. Ron DeSantis (R-FL) is refusing calls from Vice President Kamala Harris as Hurricane Milton bares down on the Florida panhandle — one week after Hurricane Helene wreaked havoc on the state, NBC News reports.

Hurricane Milton on Monday rapidly intensified to a category 5 storm with sustained winds up to 175 miles per hour, CNN reports. It is forecast to make landfall on Florida’s Golf Coast Wednesday. This storm comes just a over a week after Hurricane Helene turned “into an almost unimaginable disaster that stretched more than 500 miles inland from the Florida coast,” according to The Conversation.

A DeSantis aide told NBC News the Florida governor is declining Harris’ calls about storm recovery because they “[seem] political."

 

 

Interesting that Darth Santis can tell the calls are "political" when he isn't answering them.

 

So waddya think Trumpkins? Is this yet another MAGAt playing politics with people's lives? Sure looks that way to me....

[nuckin_futz]

3 minutes ago, RupertKBD said:

All you Republican fans, remember this if people are killed by Hurricane Milton....It will be because of Ron DeSantis, not Kamala Harris (or Joe Biden who, despite what Repugs would like you to think, is still POTUS)

 

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/we-didn-t-answer-desantis-not-taking-vp-harris-calls-about-storm-because-they-seem-political/ar-AA1rQnuI?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=cd0e04742ed44c7497ade363281966ea&ei=85

 

 

Interesting that Darth Santis can tell the calls are "political" when he isn't answering them.

 

So waddya think Trumpkins? Is this yet another MAGAt playing politics with people's lives? Sure looks that way to me....

 

 

 

[bolt]

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