AlwaysACanuckFan Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 2 minutes ago, RupertKBD said: Take it FWIW, but Elliotte Friedman says Lindy already has (or will shortly) declined the Canucks' offer. Whatever you think of EF as a source, I'd bet that he's right on this one. I didn't think there was much of a chance it would be accepted..... I'm confident we have a plan b in case he declines and can't get it done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 1 minute ago, AlwaysACanuckFan said: To me it's a no brainer, it ticks off an item off the grocery list. However is 7x7 enough. Boston offers 8x7 Lindholm probably takes Boston deal. We go $7m x 8. Same dollars in total. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 4 hours ago, BPA said: Not a bad offer. I would have preferred $6-6.5M based on his past performances. But that would probably be looked upon as a low ball offer. His speculated next contract was $8M from other teams. So $7M seems to be a reasonable compromise. But I don’t think there will be any $$ left to grab a top 6 winger as well. He makes Petey the new top six winger really. I suspect Lindholm is playing centre most of the time in the regular season with Petey sliding onto his wing where he had a ton of success. In the playoffs and when we hit rocky patches in the season it also gives flexibility to switch out to three solid lines. We are still short a top six guy to improve the team but the front officer is going to be really hard pressed to maintain the same depth of roster this coming season in any regard. Lots of guys overplayed their contract value last season and many of them are in for raises. To really repair the forward group, you need to make the D worse and there aren’t a lot of “outs” for management to do both. If they could move on from Mikheyev and Hronek and get value back, then sign 1-2 free agent D men we have a chance of improving. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 9 minutes ago, RupertKBD said: Take it FWIW, but Elliotte Friedman says Lindy already has (or will shortly) declined the Canucks' offer. Whatever you think of EF as a source, I'd bet that he's right on this one. I didn't think there was much of a chance it would be accepted..... That'd be fine, he could get more elsewhere, and likely a bigger role Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupertKBD Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 8 minutes ago, Bob Long said: I'm ok with this if true. We made a good offer. Same. Let the B's overpay him.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 1 minute ago, RupertKBD said: Same. Let the B's overpay him.... So... Do we trade a 4th for Guentzels rights and go that way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupertKBD Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 9 minutes ago, AlwaysACanuckFan said: I'm confident we have a plan b in case he declines and can't get it done. It's only a guess, but it feels to me like if the team could re-sign Lindy, then Petey moves to the wing. If Lindy walks, Petey stays at center and the team looks for a winger to play with him... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupertKBD Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 1 minute ago, Bob Long said: So... Do we trade a 4th for Guentzels rights and go that way? I like JG, but I think he's another one that will prove too expensive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 2 minutes ago, Bob Long said: So... Do we trade a 4th for Guentzels rights and go that way? It's appealing up front but probably limits our options in the bottom six and on D imo Guentzel will probably cost 9+ If they go after Guentzel they'll need cost effective players elsewhere in the lineup 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herberts Vasiljevs Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 I think the magic number is 7.35×7, as that's what we were able to sign him to in CDCGFL! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goose Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 would be really interesting if he signs here. How they build the roster out afterwards is going to be intriguing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysACanuckFan Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 4 minutes ago, RupertKBD said: It's only a guess, but it feels to me like if the team could re-sign Lindy, then Petey moves to the wing. If Lindy walks, Petey stays at center and the team looks for a winger to play with him... How would Marchessault look with him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip The Mesh Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 Right around the mark I would think. Don't give in and go higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DexM94 Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 Lindholm @7 ? No thanks. Let him go Ehlers, Necas even Zegras as main replacement, Add Toffoli and we re set at forwards. Sign Tanev and Myers and we re in VERY good shape. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupertKBD Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 9 minutes ago, AlwaysACanuckFan said: How would Marchessault look with him? Probably pretty good.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 7x7 is the most we can do. Buyout Mik and sign Toffoli who has had chemistry with both Petey and Lindholm(last good offensive year was with Toffoli) and boom we have a credible top 6 line with Petey on it that’s not the lotto line. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCupSyndrome Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 Mgmt is doing it right, they still have time so no need to panic. Stay in contact, set your price, and if needed be ready when July 1st comes for the players to circle back or move to Plan B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 25 minutes ago, DexM94 said: Lindholm @7 ? No thanks. Let him go Ehlers, Necas even Zegras as main replacement, Add Toffoli and we re set at forwards. Sign Tanev and Myers and we re in VERY good shape. So trade another top prospect and a 1st? We’ve been down that road too many times, which is why we lack cheap depth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorvatToBaertschi Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 1 hour ago, DexM94 said: Lindholm @7 ? No thanks. Let him go Ehlers, Necas even Zegras as main replacement, Add Toffoli and we re set at forwards. Sign Tanev and Myers and we re in VERY good shape. Go check out Ehlers’ playoff history, laugh hysterically for 40 minutes, and then come back. also, zegras is awful at systems hockey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 The flexibility is key - play Lindholm and Petey together, or Petey on the Lotto line, or all 3 as separate centers. Impossible for teams to defend that mid-game. We can roll against deep forward units like Dallas, or shutdown top-heavy ones, or if we're pressing for a goal load up the Lotto line. Can't do that if we just acquire Necas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syntheticity Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 1 hour ago, Coconuts said: It's appealing up front but probably limits our options in the bottom six and on D imo Guentzel will probably cost 9+ If they go after Guentzel they'll need cost effective players elsewhere in the lineup We don't currently have much, if any, information about what JG would be willing to sign here for. But let's assume you're right that it's closer to 9m, and that Lindy would cost us 7-8m per. Investing in either player would force us to make sacrifices elsewhere. So it's ultimately a q of priorities. Lindy brings us a right handed center who can help with tough defensive matchups in playoffs. JG could give us two excellent pairs (Mills-Boeser & Petey-JG) to build our top two lines around, and open up more options on our power play. While I won't be disappointed if they resign Lindy, I can also see a strong argument for investing in JG over Lindy, even if that means sacrificing others, e.g. Joshua, to make up the difference. Personally, I think what JG brings (and the holes he'd help fill) would justify letting Lindy & DJ go. At the same time, I have faith in our management's ability to find cheaper-but-still-competent 3rd line pieces, to replace some of defensive responsibilities, faceoffs, or physicality we'd be losing if Lindy & DJ leave (perhaps not by one individual but in the aggregate). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 5 hours ago, MeanSeanBean said: I've already previously spoke of this. It's a great idea in theory, but how does that work in practice if we don't have enough quality wingers to roll 3 lines. The idea of having 3 balanced lines is great, until Mikheyev and Lafferty are flanking your superstar young center. Lafferty won't be resigned this summer, we have enough guys who can step in. Mikheyev, I'd like to see them move him, but even with 1 - 1.5 million retained, it's still a reach I think, but that's what I'm hoping for so we don't wind up with him on the books for another 4 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris12345 Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 2 hours ago, Bob Long said: So... Do we trade a 4th for Guentzels rights and go that way? No 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijjibo Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 2 hours ago, HKSR said: We go $7m x 8. Same dollars in total. But less money per game played. And he has to play a year longer to get the same money. If 2 employers came to you with those 2 offers, which would you take? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris12345 Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 1 minute ago, qwijjibo said: But less money per game played. And he has to play a year longer to get the same money. If 2 employers came to you with those 2 offers, which would you take? Bingo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.