HarbularyBattery Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 56 minutes ago, J-23 said: Ya, it’s looking like management wants three good centres for the playoffs. Stephenson and Roy in free agency and a trade for someone like Crouse would be nice. Crouse - Pettersson - - Miller - Boeser - Stephenson - Garland Giuseppe - Suter - I also think we need to trade for someone that might need a change of teams. Oliver Wahlstrom? I remember a lot of people on here wanted him that year. A big off-season for the Canucks pro scouting, the team needs guys who can outperform their contracts while also making sure we have enough depth in our forward and defensive group. there was an article a few days back about how its likely the nucks need to be patient in free agency we can let the expensive guys get signed on day 1/2, and find value in the guys that are left unsigned 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairGM22 Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 Seems like a number of fans want to raise our floor with Lindholm vs raising our ceiling. No way in hell I sign a Louis Eriksson (little things) contract all over again Spend the money on Guentzel to raise our ceiling. Middling around with non elite players gets us to the second round. You all just saw it. Lindholm doesn't win us a cup, a player like Guentzel because he's an elite player can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Vanderhoek Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 (edited) 9 minutes ago, canucks curse said: Sprong Never broke 50 pts broke 20 goals once how is he elite ? he has elite hands, never said he was " elite " but then again that is as lame as people calling Lindholm " elite " 3rd line C right. Point is Sprong over the past two seasons has started to find his game. He is an excellent skater ( no I did not say he was excellent haha ), has good size and his hands are " elite ". He may be a fit on the wing with Petey and could be a producer. Also little fun factoid he was drafted by JR and PA in Pittsburgh so maybe they like his game as he is entering his prime. His cap probably also maxes out around $4m per if not less. Edited June 12 by Mike Vanderhoek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 1 hour ago, Mike Vanderhoek said: he has elite hands, never said he was " elite " but then again that is as lame as people calling Lindholm " elite " 3rd line C right. Point is Sprong over the past two seasons has started to find his game. He is an excellent skater ( no I did not say he was excellent haha ), has good size and his hands are " elite ". He may be a fit on the wing with Petey and could be a producer. Also little fun factoid he was drafted by JR and PA in Pittsburgh so maybe they like his game as he is entering his prime. His cap probably also maxes out around $4m per if not less. He'd be a sneaky good pick up for his price, and I'd be willing to bet he'd fit in really nicely with Pettersson and Guentzel if we're able to land him too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester13 Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 2 hours ago, ArmchairGM22 said: Seems like a number of fans want to raise our floor with Lindholm vs raising our ceiling. No way in hell I sign a Louis Eriksson (little things) contract all over again Spend the money on Guentzel to raise our ceiling. Middling around with non elite players gets us to the second round. You all just saw it. Lindholm doesn't win us a cup, a player like Guentzel because he's an elite player can. What round did CAR get to with Guentzel this year? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairGM22 Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 13 minutes ago, Jester13 said: What round did CAR get to with Guentzel this year? So what. Does Carolina have the same issues as us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks curse Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 cap space with LTIR 26.57 TRADE 1 TO CHI Milky Podz To VAN 2024 2nd TRADE 2 To TOR Hronek To VAN 2024 1st Matt Knies (.950) CAP = 31.37 GUentz 9 Duclair 4 x3 Chatfield 2.85 x 4 Myers 2.75 x3 Bluegger 1.75 x4 Dillon 3 x 3 Matt Roy 5.25 x 5 Silovs 1 CAP space = 1.8 JG Petey Hogz Ducs Miller Brock Knies Bluegger Garland Suter Aman PDG' Hughes Roy Soucy Myers Dillon Chatfield 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 26 minutes ago, ArmchairGM22 said: So what. Does Carolina have the same issues as us? Very possible that Van tops out at the Canes level, yes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairGM22 Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 3 minutes ago, stawns said: Very possible that Van tops out at the Canes level, yes. That's not what I asked....but ok nostradamus You got Saturday's winning 649 numbers too? LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 (edited) 39 minutes ago, ArmchairGM22 said: So what. Does Carolina have the same issues as us? Edited June 12 by stawns 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 6 minutes ago, ArmchairGM22 said: That's not what I asked....but ok nostradamus You got Saturday's winning 649 numbers too? LOL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester13 Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 11 hours ago, ArmchairGM22 said: So what. Does Carolina have the same issues as us? Well, they've been serious contenders for many years now (we haven't), and the addition of JG didn't even help them get passed the second round this year - and he played great for them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 16 hours ago, J-23 said: Ya, it’s looking like management wants three good centres for the playoffs. Stephenson and Roy in free agency and a trade for someone like Crouse would be nice. Crouse - Pettersson - - Miller - Boeser - Stephenson - Garland Giuseppe - Suter - I also think we need to trade for someone that might need a change of teams. Oliver Wahlstrom? I remember a lot of people on here wanted him that year. A big off-season for the Canucks pro scouting, the team needs guys who can outperform their contracts while also making sure we have enough depth in our forward and defensive group. I think Crouse is a pipe dream, but yeah. Weren't the Isles supposedly shopping Wahlstrom at some point this season? Depth is why I think thy should probably go the route of trying to pay good, but not higher end players. It's not easy to find guys who will outperform their contracts significantly, but that isn't to say value can't be found. If brought in I'm not sure Stephenson would be a 3C imo, he's put up top six numbers the past three seasons. Maybe come playoff time that'd shift, but I'd assume that someone else would still be the 3C if he were a Canuck. I'm not sure he'd settle for a third line opportunity, even if it isn't a typical third line role. 16 hours ago, CaptainCanuck12 said: I think the better label for most of those guys would be 'serivceable' (or even 'meh'), as opposed to "interesting". That being said, I do like the idea of bringing in a couple of those guys to improve our depth, rather than investing everything in one boom or bust big name UFA. Semantics. But yeah, I think building depth throughout the forward group is the way to go, star power matters but so does depth come playoff time. It's one of the things the Panthers addressed leading up to the trade deadline, their forward depth. I'd rather go after a few interesting/serviceable players that can help multiple lines than go after a big fish so to speak. 15 hours ago, Mike Vanderhoek said: I would like to see Blueger back first off. If you can snag Daniel Sprong and Tyler Toffoli in Free Agency you immediately add offense on the wings as well as in Toffoli's case clutch scoring and in Sprong's case a big strong fast skater with elite offensive skills. I think there's a chance of that, but we'll see. Sprong is an interesting case, I've read that he cheats for offense a bit and that he's weaker on the defensive side. I've read Wings fans saying that he tends to feast on lower competition and that he's not a true top six player, which isn't to say he can't be complimentary. Supposedly he can be productive against third or fourth lines but is a bit of a liability against top six players. He seems like a flawed, more one dimensional sort of player, but he could probably be useful for a team out there if utilized right and insulated. Toffoli is interest too, but it depends on what he wants. He's still productive but he's also going into his 32-33 year season next season, I'd be interested depending on what he wants in the form of money and term. A shorter term deal would be ideal, 2-3 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrammaInTheTub Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 Partially reported elsewhere (in relation to us looking back into Guentzel), but more Lindholm specific Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorvatToBaertschi Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 51 minutes ago, GrammaInTheTub said: Partially reported elsewhere (in relation to us looking back into Guentzel), but more Lindholm specific That’s brutal news. He’s a terrific fit here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarbularyBattery Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 24 minutes ago, HorvatToBaertschi said: That’s brutal news. He’s a terrific fit here. if he doesnt want to take a 7x7 though, its just not worth it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Combover Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 1 hour ago, GrammaInTheTub said: Partially reported elsewhere (in relation to us looking back into Guentzel), but more Lindholm specific Same source that said zad and Nucks making progress? it’s all click bait and opinion this time of year the “insiders” have proven over and over they’re info and reporting isnt reliable. when PA comes out and says we won’t be resigning him or he says he won’t be resigning then it’s news till then it’s just a guy saying what he thinks. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 19 hours ago, Mike Vanderhoek said: he has elite hands, never said he was " elite " but then again that is as lame as people calling Lindholm " elite " 3rd line C right. Point is Sprong over the past two seasons has started to find his game. He is an excellent skater ( no I did not say he was excellent haha ), has good size and his hands are " elite ". He may be a fit on the wing with Petey and could be a producer. Also little fun factoid he was drafted by JR and PA in Pittsburgh so maybe they like his game as he is entering his prime. His cap probably also maxes out around $4m per if not less. 18 hours ago, Pears said: He'd be a sneaky good pick up for his price, and I'd be willing to bet he'd fit in really nicely with Pettersson and Guentzel if we're able to land him too. Yeah I had Sprong on my list of under the radar possible pickups at the TDL. Carcone and Novak were others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngoway Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 I tend to take all of these "insider" updates and reports with a grain of salt. I think it's safe to say Lindholm will test free agency to see what other offers are out there as that's just being smart and him doing his due diligence. Lindholm can definitely get more money elsewhere, but we won't really know what his main priorities are until he actually signs. I'm still hopeful we can work out a deal with Lindholm as I'd rather pay money for him than Guentzel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCupSyndrome Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 1 hour ago, GrammaInTheTub said: Partially reported elsewhere (in relation to us looking back into Guentzel), but more Lindholm specific Meh, not super upset. With internal improvement I think there are other moves that could make this team more balanced. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck You Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 Canucks moving on from Lindholm as per Donnie & Dhali. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 I like Lindholm, and would like to get him re-signed, but.... I am really pleased that management once again shows the players, that if they have numbers ready, they are willing to walk away from deals they feel get too expensive... They clearly show, who dictates the pace in Vancouver... similar to what they did with Horvat... Bravo Allvin. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 20 hours ago, ArmchairGM22 said: Seems like a number of fans want to raise our floor with Lindholm vs raising our ceiling. No way in hell I sign a Louis Eriksson (little things) contract all over again Spend the money on Guentzel to raise our ceiling. Middling around with non elite players gets us to the second round. You all just saw it. Lindholm doesn't win us a cup, a player like Guentzel because he's an elite player can. Well agree to disagree... Lindholm doesn't win us a cup??? He is exactly what you need to win a cup... Have you checked he point production during play offs? He was really good for us... But everyone has a prize, and if we are looking for a winger for Petey, it can be debated, if Guentzel would be the better choice... However to say you don't win championships with players like Lindholm, is just not true... If that was the case do you honestly believe management would have given up all the assets they did? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-23 Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 20 hours ago, HarbularyBattery said: there was an article a few days back about how its likely the nucks need to be patient in free agency we can let the expensive guys get signed on day 1/2, and find value in the guys that are left unsigned That’s the way to go honestly. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarbularyBattery Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 1 hour ago, Canuck You said: Canucks moving on from Lindholm as per Donnie & Dhali. man it feels so good to have a disciplined management team that wont get overly attached to a player and screw us over for a decade as a result 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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