Popular Post Ribs Posted June 7 Popular Post Share Posted June 7 46 minutes ago, Nucker67 said: So, they want to pay a #3C $7,000,000 a season until he's 36? Nothing could possibli go wrong. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 1 hour ago, MeanSeanBean said: Man.. that's quite the deal. Kinda doubt it's even enough to get it done, but more then I'd personally be wanting us to spend on him. I'm really mixed on this, I hope he holds off and signs for money. Unless he can come back and show he can work with Petey next year, I hate the idea of spending 7m on a 3C Would Lindy be our 3C though? If we are out in Guentzel and Nescas maybe the contingency is keeping Lindy to play 2C and having Petey play on his wing? Having Miller, Petey, and Lindy as centres sure creates a lot of flexibility for Tocchet. If Lindy can get 56 mil from the Bruins (8 mil x 7) maybe we go 7 mil x 8? Keeps our cap a bit lower. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzy Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 49 minutes ago, Nucker67 said: So, they want to pay a #3C $7,000,000 a season until he's 36? With the rising cap, in 3 years most 3rd line centers will make 7 mil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 49 minutes ago, Nucker67 said: So, they want to pay a #3C $7,000,000 a season until he's 36? On the Bruins and other clubs interested in Lindy he’s their 1C. We have two fabulous centres already in Petey and Miller. But both those guys are great wingers too. So either could play wing making Lindy our 2C. 7 mil x 8 years is a good deal for a 2C. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DeNiro Posted June 7 Popular Post Share Posted June 7 Just now, Alflives said: Would Lindy be our 3C though? If we are out in Guentzel and Nescas maybe the contingency is keeping Lindy to play 2C and having Petey play on his wing? Having Miller, Petey, and Lindy as centres sure creates a lot of flexibility for Tocchet. If Lindy can get 56 mil from the Bruins (8 mil x 7) maybe we go 7 mil x 8? Keeps our cap a bit lower. That’s the biggest thing right? Flexibility. Regular season we can load up lines to create offense. In the playoffs with tighter checking it’s a huge advantage to have three solid centers. Good to have players that have strong games to fall back on. Even when Lindy wasn’t going offensively he was winning draws and playing good two way hockey. I’d feel more comfortable going long term in a player like that than one who is strictly an offensive minded player. 2 1 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HKSR Posted June 7 Popular Post Share Posted June 7 Why do people think Lindy is gonna be 3C here? He's gonna be 2C... you can count on it. The reason is because if Lindy is signed, we don't have any cap space for another top 6F to be added. Lindy will be the top 6F to play with Pettersson. So $7M for a 2C is very reasonable. 1 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mike Vanderhoek Posted June 7 Popular Post Share Posted June 7 They aren't selling him on a 3rd line C role. He would just walk and take Boston's top C role if thats the case. He will be 2C who can play 3C, PP and PK. Blueger, Suter, Aman will interchange in the bottom six. 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 12 minutes ago, RupertKBD said: I think I'm with the majority here....I'm good with the deal, but I doubt Lindy is. As someone already mentioned, Boston wants him badly (according to various rumors I've read) so I doubt 7x 7 wins the bidding war.... all depends on where he wants to raise his family. Boston isn't where I'd choose, thats for sure. Is Boston going to be as competitive as the Canucks over his next contract as well? He really shouldn't know what Boston is willing to do either, at least at this point unless Boston is tampering. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz-Pix Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 23 minutes ago, HKSR said: Exactly. Besides, 6 years from now, the upper cap limit will very likely be in the $100M range. A $7M contract at that point is equivalent to a $5.85M contract today. This is true, but I worry about what kind of production you're getting out of a 36 year old player at that point. 30-35 points? If we had a player this year making $5.85 million and putting up 30ish points our fanbase would lose it's mind. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bob Long Posted June 7 Popular Post Share Posted June 7 6 minutes ago, DeNiro said: That’s the biggest thing right? Flexibility. Regular season we can load up lines to create offense. In the playoffs with tighter checking it’s a huge advantage to have three solid centers. Good to have players that have strong games to fall back on. Even when Lindy wasn’t going offensively he was winning draws and playing good two way hockey. I’d feel more comfortable going long term in a player like that than one who is strictly an offensive minded player. he's also our only RHC option, on this years roster or in the system. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 13 minutes ago, stawns said: I think people have to accept treading water with the roster this season and hoping they overachieve again. They're not going to solve their issues in one off season I think it's a possibility we over achieved and could see a small step back, but I don't think we should accept that. Based off Allvins comments at the end of season presser, he sure as shit won't accept that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ribs Posted June 7 Popular Post Share Posted June 7 2 minutes ago, Blitz-Pix said: This is true, but I worry about what kind of production you're getting out of a 36 year old player at that point. 30-35 points? If we had a player this year making $5.85 million and putting up 30ish points our fanbase would lose it's mind. No doubt he'll be doing a great job with little things at that point. 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz-Pix Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 9 minutes ago, fuzzy said: With the rising cap, in 3 years most 3rd line centers will make 7 mil Perhaps...if the cap is $110 million 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 5 minutes ago, Blitz-Pix said: This is true, but I worry about what kind of production you're getting out of a 36 year old player at that point. 30-35 points? If we had a player this year making $5.85 million and putting up 30ish points our fanbase would lose it's mind. We don't know that though. He could still be putting up 45 to 50 points, which wouldn't be the end of the world. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 If Lindholm is signed by Canucks 1 of JT Miller and E. Pettersson have to move to wing. You can NOT pay 7m or more for a #3C that is just stupid! I wonder if Canucks offer Hoglander with Mikheyev to a team like Chicago to take Mik's full cap hit. I also wonder why we are trying to add a top 6 F when we have a 4.95m winger name Garland? If Garland isn't going to be used in top 6 I would trade him, I like him but that cap hit is just too high for a 3rd liner. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 5 minutes ago, MeanSeanBean said: I think it's a possibility we over achieved and could see a small step back, but I don't think we should accept that. Based off Allvins comments at the end of season presser, he sure as shit won't accept that. Well, in a salary cap world, with as many rfa/ufa as they have, it might not matter what they want to accept Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupertKBD Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 9 minutes ago, Bob Long said: all depends on where he wants to raise his family. Boston isn't where I'd choose, thats for sure. Is Boston going to be as competitive as the Canucks over his next contract as well? He really shouldn't know what Boston is willing to do either, at least at this point unless Boston is tampering. Yeah, it depends on a lot of factors, money only being one of them. I don't really know what is most important to Lindholm, so your guess is as good as mine. That being said, I'd rather raise a family in Boston, rather than Miami, or Dallas.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 Having the skill of Lindholm at 2C and 3C is a good thing. It raises the ceiling/bar on talent and means we're commited to being good. Front load the contract with higher guaranteed $ and make him moveable in the latter half of the contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 15 minutes ago, MeanSeanBean said: I think it's a possibility we over achieved and could see a small step back, but I don't think we should accept that. Based off Allvins comments at the end of season presser, he sure as shit won't accept that. Did we overachieve or did we underachieve previously based on poor roster construction and inexperienced coaching? Nobody can say one way or another at this point. Proper depth and proper structure to their game could have been the difference. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz-Pix Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 (edited) 25 minutes ago, HKSR said: We don't know that though. He could still be putting up 45 to 50 points, which wouldn't be the end of the world. True but we don't know that he'll be getting 45-50 points either....I haven't checked what the average points totals are for a 36 year old players (So I'm only guessing) Miller will be in the same spot...we'll have two 36 year old centers that year. We'd be in big trouble if they were 2nd or 3rd line centers IMO. Just a guess, but you could be paying Miller $8 and Lindy $7 million to center your 3 and 4th lines...which means their not getting top 6 minutes or playing on your PP. That's why I'm guessing 30(ish) points. Quite frankly any good player we sign to a 7 year contract (that's 28-30) is kinda going to put us in that situation regardless. Guentzel, Lindy, Zads and so on. In a perfect world we could sign someone in the 4-5 year range, Wishful thinking though. Edited June 7 by Blitz-Pix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 26 minutes ago, DeNiro said: That’s the biggest thing right? Flexibility. Regular season we can load up lines to create offense. In the playoffs with tighter checking it’s a huge advantage to have three solid centers. Good to have players that have strong games to fall back on. Even when Lindy wasn’t going offensively he was winning draws and playing good two way hockey. I’d feel more comfortable going long term in a player like that than one who is strictly an offensive minded player. Good points about flexibility. His versatility also provides more depth and stability. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 1 hour ago, MeanSeanBean said: Man.. that's quite the deal. Kinda doubt it's even enough to get it done, but more then I'd personally be wanting us to spend on him. I'm really mixed on this, I hope he holds off and signs for money. Unless he can come back and show he can work with Petey next year, I hate the idea of spending 7m on a 3C He's more than a 3C though. Historically, he's been a 1 or 2C on teams, it's just how we were utilizing him last season. Ideally for next year, I'd like to see 3 balanced lines sharing the workload, plus a 4th line. With our travel schedule, we really need a balanced approach to offense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pianoman Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 1 hour ago, Nucker67 said: So, they want to pay a #3C $7,000,000 a season until he's 36? Look at the icetime and usage. He won’t be a ‘third liner’ 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris12345 Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 He spoke in past tense in the presser. I'm guessing Boston. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck You Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 On the fence with this one, 7M for a 3rd C ?!!?..Gives me Loui E vibes. This could turn out decent or super terrible, I don't expect him to have amazing stats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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