toochmahgooch Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 Say by mid December and podkolzin isnt performing up to where we think he can, we're looking at tinkering and upgrading the wing/center position. Not sure if Podz will be anything more than a top 9 winger and were focused on winning right now. Van: Hertl (15% retention ($6,916,875) San Jose: Myers, Podz, 2024 1st Doesn't hurt us too bad long term. Thoughts? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijjibo Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 Why would SJ consider this? A $6m cap dump. A prospect who has been disappointing so far and a 1st is a terrible offer. Plus you want them.to retain for seven years. Think about that. 7 years of dead cap and they're getting a crap return on a top line player 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 Yeah because we didn't learn anything with OEL....... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RawkDrummer Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 No thanks, we need a power forward. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Hronek Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 1 hour ago, toochmahgooch said: Say by mid December and podkolzin isnt performing up to where we think he can, we're looking at tinkering and upgrading the wing/center position. Not sure if Podz will be anything more than a top 9 winger and were focused on winning right now. Van: Hertl (15% retention ($6,916,875) San Jose: Myers, Podz, 2024 1st Doesn't hurt us too bad long term. Thoughts? San Jose says, "omg lolololol", farts in the receiver, and then hangs up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatchesMalone Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 5 minutes ago, Jeremy Hronek said: San Jose says, "omg lolololol", farts in the receiver, and then hangs up. I love that they actually say "lolololol" instead of laughing. They're probably just making fart sounds with their mouths too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toochmahgooch Posted September 26, 2023 Author Share Posted September 26, 2023 32 minutes ago, RawkDrummer said: No thanks, we need a power forward. Which power forward do you have you eye on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toochmahgooch Posted September 26, 2023 Author Share Posted September 26, 2023 47 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Yeah because we didn't learn anything with OEL....... Although Hertl hasn't seen significant decline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toochmahgooch Posted September 26, 2023 Author Share Posted September 26, 2023 56 minutes ago, qwijjibo said: Why would SJ consider this? A $6m cap dump. A prospect who has been disappointing so far and a 1st is a terrible offer. Plus you want them.to retain for seven years. Think about that. 7 years of dead cap and they're getting a crap return on a top line player It's obvious they want to gain cap space and build for the future. Podz has incredible upside, but will we have the patience for it to come to fruition? With long term contracts teams can't expect to gain much. They gain cap, get a promising player and a first round pick. Don't think it's that laughable. We were offered 2 late firsts for Miller by the Pens and he's a lot better than Hertl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijjibo Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 10 minutes ago, toochmahgooch said: It's obvious they want to gain cap space and build for the future. Podz has incredible upside, but will we have the patience for it to come to fruition? With long term contracts teams can't expect to gain much. They gain cap, get a promising player and a first round pick. Don't think it's that laughable. We were offered 2 late firsts for Miller by the Pens and he's a lot better than Hertl. Seven Years of Retention Yeah, it's laughable 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 Why would a rebuilding team trade a sub-30 year old top-line C, very much still in his prime, for a cap dump, a project and a 1st? If a contender was to trade for him they'd pony up so many assets that it'd blow our "offer" out of the water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barn Burner Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 46 minutes ago, qwijjibo said: Seven Years of Retention Yeah, it's laughable Yeah, and that's only your opinion. Haha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcam Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 2 hours ago, toochmahgooch said: Say by mid December and podkolzin isnt performing up to where we think he can, we're looking at tinkering and upgrading the wing/center position. Not sure if Podz will be anything more than a top 9 winger and were focused on winning right now. Van: Hertl (15% retention ($6,916,875) San Jose: Myers, Podz, 2024 1st Doesn't hurt us too bad long term. Thoughts? Big No - Hertl -C - 30 yrs old November - 7 yrs X 8.1 million???? NO NO -- We have Miller 30- C - 7 yrs X 8 million Petey 24 -C -- Will demand 11--11.5 million X 4 yrs? Pay Hertl 8.1 million to be #3. centre.. Power forward with grit or a # 4 D man under 28.. Please no more trades ideas for 30 year old players making big money. Canucks want cap space.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoop Hogg Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 While we are at it, let’s give them Garland, Rathbone and a 5th round pick for Coutoure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eeeeeeeeergh Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 19 hours ago, Jeremy Hronek said: San Jose says, "omg lolololol", farts in the receiver, and then hangs up. dont threaten me with a good time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABNuck Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 19 hours ago, toochmahgooch said: Which power forward do you have you eye on? Foegele? With Kane signed Foeg's is the odd man out in their top 6 I think...he hasn't been getting the minutes for the past 2-3 years. If he got 2nd line minutes he just might surprise some folks. I think the potential is there...27yo...prime years...and only 1 year left on his contract if he doesn't work out. And right now he's the opposite of Myers (he's owed more money than his cap hit so we might be able to get him cheap). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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