ArmchairGM22 Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 (edited) Alot of talk of re-signing Lindholm, Guentzel, and our UFA's but there are some pretty good players out there we may be able to get for cheaper who could provide the scoring we need. I am not a fan of re-signing Lindholm for even 7x7 and have made posts elsewhere as to why, I just think we need an elite winger for Petey, not a redundant C who's going to make more money than his production merits (no matter how good he is at the "little things". Players off the Canucks fan radar that I think could really help us, and allow us to keep players like big Z and Blueger (probably have to rid ourselves of Mik and probably lose Joshua). But what about players like Patrick Kane (could he be convinced?) Imagine him and Petey and our PP? Sean Monohan is another who comes to mind. Gives us a 3c who can score, who's contract isn't killer, and who's pretty good 2 ways. He's also good enough offensively to step up into a top 6 C role if one of Petey or Miller is hurt / slumping. Bleuger can the slide into a 4c role. We are still very strong down the middle this way. Who are some of the other players we could go after that won't break the bank and are cost effective for their roles up front? Toffoli concerns me due to lack of speed and age. Kane 2 x $6 (cheaper than Guentzel and probably just as effective, and a bridge to Lekkermaki). Imagine the impact on the team from a leadership and excitement perspective. Kaner and Hughes on the same PP? My god...and Acqua man would love the buzz for ticket sales. Monohan 4 x $5 mil. Cheaper than Lindholm and just came of a great rebound season of 60pts. Would be an excellent part of a second PP as well Edited June 11 by ArmchairGM22 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 Who cares if Kane can get over it, I can’t. Fuck that deal. Monohan I wouldn’t mind bringing in to 3rd line but wouldn’t give him more than 2 years. Cant trust his health even though he is surprisingly young. 1 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arrogant Worms Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 Getting Kane would be like getting Messier. Vomit worthy. 1 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker67 Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 I can see why VAN would want Guentzel, having had two 40-goal seasons and a 36 goal season, several 20+ seasons. Sure he played with Crosby, but now he could be playing with Pettersson. Those two together could create a lot of damage. I am curious, though, about Guentzel's injury history. He's missed quite a few games since 2019. Is this a concern? Reinhart would be great, but he'll be very expensive after he wins the Cup. Canucks can't afford him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 A lot of us say no to MonNohands and Kaner. Zero chance JR/PA have any interest in either player. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairGM22 Posted June 12 Author Share Posted June 12 1 hour ago, DrJockitch said: Who cares if Kane can get over it, I can’t. Fuck that deal. Monohan I wouldn’t mind bringing in to 3rd line but wouldn’t give him more than 2 years. Cant trust his health even though he is surprisingly young. Over what? Passing on an elite ppg player because your feelings are hurt that they beat us for a few years? Sounds like a good strategy for winning 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairGM22 Posted June 12 Author Share Posted June 12 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Alflives said: A lot of us say no to MonNohands and Kaner. Zero chance JR/PA have any interest in either player. According to whom? And looking at Monohan's numbers it seems now that his back issues are behind him, his game is coming back to form. https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=130620 Edited June 12 by ArmchairGM22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 4 minutes ago, ArmchairGM22 said: According to whom? And looking at Monohan's numbers it seems now that his back issues are behind him, his game is coming back to form. https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=130620 MonNohands is a left shot centre who is over 60% O Zone starts. He’s not the type of centre we need for our third line. IMHAO not a lot of good in him for what we need. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarbularyBattery Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 3 hours ago, ArmchairGM22 said: Alot of talk of re-signing Lindholm, Guentzel, and our UFA's but there are some pretty good players out there we may be able to get for cheaper who could provide the scoring we need. I am not a fan of re-signing Lindholm for even 7x7 and have made posts elsewhere as to why, I just think we need an elite winger for Petey, not a redundant C who's going to make more money than his production merits (no matter how good he is at the "little things". Players off the Canucks fan radar that I think could really help us, and allow us to keep players like big Z and Blueger (probably have to rid ourselves of Mik and probably lose Joshua). But what about players like Patrick Kane (could he be convinced?) Imagine him and Petey and our PP? Sean Monohan is another who comes to mind. Gives us a 3c who can score, who's contract isn't killer, and who's pretty good 2 ways. He's also good enough offensively to step up into a top 6 C role if one of Petey or Miller is hurt / slumping. Bleuger can the slide into a 4c role. We are still very strong down the middle this way. Who are some of the other players we could go after that won't break the bank and are cost effective for their roles up front? Toffoli concerns me due to lack of speed and age. Kane 2 x $6 (cheaper than Guentzel and probably just as effective, and a bridge to Lekkermaki). Imagine the impact on the team from a leadership and excitement perspective. Kaner and Hughes on the same PP? My god...and Acqua man would love the buzz for ticket sales. Monohan 4 x $5 mil. Cheaper than Lindholm and just came of a great rebound season of 60pts. Would be an excellent part of a second PP as well The guys Id focus on are: - Duclair - Toffoli - Bluegar (still underrated as a 3C) - Dillon - Stephenson if we want an upgrade at 3c 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoop Hogg Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 2 hours ago, The Arrogant Worms said: Getting Kane would be like getting Messier. Vomit worthy. Well, I doubt he’d demand to wear #11 and strip Hughes of the C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 Monahan, 29, between Montreal and Winnipeg went 26-33-59 in 83 games last year. He's a UFA and just wrapped a 1 year, $2M contract. He deserves more than another 1 year contract but how long? I wonder what he would sign for? 2 or 3 x $3.5-4.0M? I could live with that for cap and term reasons over 7 x too much $ for 29 year old Lindholm. Besides, wouldn't it be fun to ice Monahan against Calgary? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 (edited) Agreed with HarbularyBattery on Stephenson, if VGK is letting him go and he costs the same as Monahan then I'd rather go for him for the durability and versatility. Other guys who I'd want us to go for would include Kevin Labanc and Victor Olofsson, I think he can be a Robby Fabbri-esque buy-low guy who's got some offensive game. Ship Mikheyev out for a pick, then pick them up and buy-low and see if we can work them up to have some value. For an in-house guy, I'd want us to give Podkolzin more of a chance with Garland esp. if Joshua leaves. Lastly, for bottom-6 guys I'd say go for Wennberg and bring back Motte. Edited June 12 by Phil_314 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 25 minutes ago, Snoop Hogg said: Well, I doubt he’d demand to wear #11 and strip Hughes of the C. D-bags gonna d-bag. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairGM22 Posted June 12 Author Share Posted June 12 2 hours ago, Phil_314 said: Agreed with HarbularyBattery on Stephenson, if VGK is letting him go and he costs the same as Monahan then I'd rather go for him for the durability and versatility. Other guys who I'd want us to go for would include Kevin Labanc and Victor Olofsson, I think he can be a Robby Fabbri-esque buy-low guy who's got some offensive game. Ship Mikheyev out for a pick, then pick them up and buy-low and see if we can work them up to have some value. For an in-house guy, I'd want us to give Podkolzin more of a chance with Garland esp. if Joshua leaves. Lastly, for bottom-6 guys I'd say go for Wennberg and bring back Motte. I like Stephenson too but he's primarily been a winger in Vegas, not a center. He's not an elite winger so I don't think he moves the needle for us enough and unproven at center. This is why I prefer Monohan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 3 hours ago, Snoop Hogg said: Well, I doubt he’d demand to wear #11 and strip Hughes of the C. He'd probably strip Aman of his number though... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billabong Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 As a guy I could see being the next “diamond in the rough” is kapanen has shown he has the ability to score, kill penalties and can provide speed would come cheap around a million I bet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 12 hours ago, ArmchairGM22 said: I like Stephenson too but he's primarily been a winger in Vegas, not a center. He's not an elite winger so I don't think he moves the needle for us enough and unproven at center. This is why I prefer Monohan. That's incorrect. He took an average of 14 draws a night, and won 52.6% of them. In terms of draws per game, while he's not Crosby who's at north of 20 draws per night, he's also in the same range as Eichel and Karlsson who each take 14 per night (JT Miller takes 18 by comparison). At worst he can hold his own amongst other "actual" C's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 16 hours ago, Crabcakes said: Monahan, 29, between Montreal and Winnipeg went 26-33-59 in 83 games last year. He's a UFA and just wrapped a 1 year, $2M contract. He deserves more than another 1 year contract but how long? I wonder what he would sign for? 2 or 3 x $3.5-4.0M? I could live with that for cap and term reasons over 7 x too much $ for 29 year old Lindholm. Besides, wouldn't it be fun to ice Monahan against Calgary? It's a bit hilarious that DJ is going to get 4 x 3 or something in Detroit, yet a guy who had a history of 30-30 or so, is begging for work at 2 million for one year. Soft, charmin. Center. I'm not sure. Maybe Tochett could get him to be a man? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 23 hours ago, ArmchairGM22 said: Alot of talk of re-signing Lindholm, Guentzel, and our UFA's but there are some pretty good players out there we may be able to get for cheaper who could provide the scoring we need. I am not a fan of re-signing Lindholm for even 7x7 and have made posts elsewhere as to why, I just think we need an elite winger for Petey, not a redundant C who's going to make more money than his production merits (no matter how good he is at the "little things". Players off the Canucks fan radar that I think could really help us, and allow us to keep players like big Z and Blueger (probably have to rid ourselves of Mik and probably lose Joshua). But what about players like Patrick Kane (could he be convinced?) Imagine him and Petey and our PP? Sean Monohan is another who comes to mind. Gives us a 3c who can score, who's contract isn't killer, and who's pretty good 2 ways. He's also good enough offensively to step up into a top 6 C role if one of Petey or Miller is hurt / slumping. Bleuger can the slide into a 4c role. We are still very strong down the middle this way. Who are some of the other players we could go after that won't break the bank and are cost effective for their roles up front? Toffoli concerns me due to lack of speed and age. Kane 2 x $6 (cheaper than Guentzel and probably just as effective, and a bridge to Lekkermaki). Imagine the impact on the team from a leadership and excitement perspective. Kaner and Hughes on the same PP? My god...and Acqua man would love the buzz for ticket sales. Monohan 4 x $5 mil. Cheaper than Lindholm and just came of a great rebound season of 60pts. Would be an excellent part of a second PP as well Not sure about Monahan... 4x$5M if he doesn't work out he'd be an anchor... However the Kane deal until Lekkerimaki is ready could be good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattJVD Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 Kane as in Patrick? I'm not giving a guy who is older than Ian Cole and coming off hip resurfacing surgery a deal longer than 1 year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairGM22 Posted June 13 Author Share Posted June 13 1 hour ago, MattJVD said: Kane as in Patrick? I'm not giving a guy who is older than Ian Cole and coming off hip resurfacing surgery a deal longer than 1 year. Yes. He had a ppg last year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker67 Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 14 hours ago, Billabong said: As a guy I could see being the next “diamond in the rough” is kapanen has shown he has the ability to score, kill penalties and can provide speed would come cheap around a million I bet Wasn't Kapanen JR's first draft pick (PIT) in 2014? I could see them being interested. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyG Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 Patrik Laine is looking for a new start… this may be a perfecf opportunity to buy low on a former 40 goal scorer who is still in his prime and has very little term which makes him moveable if it doesnt work out. 8.7mil 2 years remaining If Zadorov’s price is too much… Laine+Gudbranson+2nd for Hronek+Mik As much as people will probably laugh at the idea of Gudbranson coming back… he had a very good season on a terrible CBJ team. Provides a RHS on the back end, a big winger for Petey who may very well resurrect his career. i have a hard time gauging fair value in this proposal because Laine is an unknown right now and clearly theres some risk with taking him on, Gudbranson I feel in our system under this coaching staff he may have a big impact on the blueline with his physicality and willingness to block shots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarbularyBattery Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 15 hours ago, Nucker67 said: Wasn't Kapanen JR's first draft pick (PIT) in 2014? I could see them being interested. Hes speedy but lord almighty is he an offensive black hole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarbularyBattery Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 14 hours ago, AnthonyG said: Patrik Laine is looking for a new start… this may be a perfecf opportunity to buy low on a former 40 goal scorer who is still in his prime and has very little term which makes him moveable if it doesnt work out. 8.7mil 2 years remaining If Zadorov’s price is too much… Laine+Gudbranson+2nd for Hronek+Mik As much as people will probably laugh at the idea of Gudbranson coming back… he had a very good season on a terrible CBJ team. Provides a RHS on the back end, a big winger for Petey who may very well resurrect his career. i have a hard time gauging fair value in this proposal because Laine is an unknown right now and clearly theres some risk with taking him on, Gudbranson I feel in our system under this coaching staff he may have a big impact on the blueline with his physicality and willingness to block shots. At 8.7m, we would need Laine to show up for a pretty guaranteed 35 goals, I don't think its a feasible risk for us to take Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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