Alflives Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 Just now, ArmchairGM22 said: I picked him in my hockey pools for years. He’s brittle. Gets injured way too easily. And not from things like blocking shots, he’s just got some brittle bones Brittle bones and weak in the head. He’s heading to Montreal. They like those kinds of players. They will trade for PLD too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairGM22 Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 Can’t see Laine and Tocc working well 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73 Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 Dunno not sold on his foot speed... I guess it depends on how much money they retain and if they take mikheyev. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekker Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 Really not a fan of Laine but If there is something to be done where they can dump Mik on them, maybe. Even then, I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chon derry Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammertime Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 (edited) 56 minutes ago, RWJC said: You and I have discussed Laine for some time. He would be such an interesting add to EP’s wing. I’m very tempted provided we have an exit strategy should the experiment fail. I think the deal would have to be very sweet indeed. I think if we figure the cost of a Laine buyout vs a Mikheyev buyout it's only a 1m spread if bought out 2025 or 700k bought out now worth the risk especially if they retain a bit to even it out. Would Laine pot 40-50 w Pete? He might? Or he shits the bed and we buyout for at worst a mild increase in cap penalty hopefully made a wash by retention. Edited June 13 by Hammertime 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 3 hours ago, Grandmaster said: Mik has only 2 years left at a much lower Cap hit than Laine. Laine’s negative value and length of contract is far worse. He hasn’t scored 30 goals since 2018 - 2019. He looks like Lafferty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 3 hours ago, BPA said: Retention would be nice. Laine ($4M retained) for Mik + 3rd Never thought of it like this though. If they take Mik then that’s a huge help for us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 2 hours ago, nuckin_futz said: We needed an offensive defenceman. We had drafted our future power forward the year before his name was Jake Virtanen. More Canuck luck at work. On the surface, you'd think the OJ pick was a rare really bad miss by our European amateur scouts but OJ played a good chunk of his minor league hockey in Canada (OHL). Virtanen, another "winner" from our Canadian amateur scouting department. Ron Delorme can't be blamed as he was in Sweden scouting EP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemon Face Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 3 hours ago, Olli Juolevi said: If they're retaining $2M or more and taking Mikheyev's full contact, I think that price starts to get pretty high. Maybe Lekkerrimaki and a first? Go visit doctor brother.Something is wrong with you. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 1 hour ago, Hammertime said: I thought Bergavin was done in MTL. He lurks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 I would take him if there was a big deal to be had. A good interview with our management and coach first plus health check. If he has turned it around and seems excited and willing to learn from RT we might have a top 6 player. Laine 40 per cent retained, Sillinger , Boqvist and a 3rd For Hronek , Mik and Hogs We get a top 6 player, RD and 3rd line center 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzy Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 45 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Yep. If Tocchet wasn’t gonna give Kuzmenko a spot how could he turn around and give Laine one? I believe the biggest issue with kuzmenko was that he wasn't scoring and looked lost offensively. I believe that Tocchet would have put up with his defensive issues if he was scoring. Laine has his shortfalls but if he's scoring Tocchet will make it work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 25 minutes ago, Hammertime said: I think the deal would have to be very sweet indeed. I think if we figure the cost of a Laine buyout vs a Mikheyev buyout it's only a 1m spread if bought out 2025 or 700k bought out now worth the risk especially if they retain a bit to even it out. Would Laine pot 40-50 w Pete? He might? Or he shits the bed and we buyout for at worst a mild increase in cap penalty hopefully made a wash by retention. That’s a good way of looking at it. and if it’s a success could probably trade him for more. i wonder what the trade will look like though he’s a distressed asset but I’m sure there are teams willing to take the risk especially if there is any retention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 4 hours ago, BPA said: Pass. Laine is damaged goods. Hasn’t played over 56 games since joining CBJ. 50pt player getting $8.7M. Too rich. Maybe a change of scenery fixes that? Remember Cam Neely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwarrior Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 1 hour ago, DeNiro said: Yep. If Tocchet wasn’t gonna give Kuzmenko a spot how could he turn around and give Laine one? Very valid. I wanted Laine in his draft year. But seeing how one dimensional he really is. Yeah, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 1 hour ago, DeNiro said: Yep. If Tocchet wasn’t gonna give Kuzmenko a spot how could he turn around and give Laine one? As much truth there is to that kuzmenko was not shooting or producing and also not playing the system properly. laine if the bet hits will still be firing pucks and out scoring problems and if insulated ina. Strong system maybe it works maybe he even buys into what we are doing i am not all in on laine or even feeling good about him as a player but I’d be open to the experiment if the trade price wasn’t too great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammertime Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 1 minute ago, PhillipBlunt said: He looks like Lafferty. But the gap between Laine buyout and Mik buyout is close. 6.33m for 2 years 3.16 per if experiment fails and we buy out Laine 2025 Vs 3.3m over 2 or 6.4m over 4 if we buyout Mik this year. So I see frame work. Columbus doesn't have to buy out Laine at 12.666 over 4 they retain 2m x 2 say and take Mik and they are 2 years closer to out of the woods. We gamble on Laine + Pete which could be fire Kuzz would have scored 40 if Tocch didn't put him in the pressbox. With a little retained there would be more to be gained than lost in terms of cap and upside. The question is the amount retained + Mik. Right now if Laine is FA does he get 3mx2? 4x1? My $0.02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 23 minutes ago, cripplereh said: I would take him if there was a big deal to be had. A good interview with our management and coach first plus health check. If he has turned it around and seems excited and willing to learn from RT we might have a top 6 player. Laine 40 per cent retained, Sillinger , Boqvist and a 3rd For Hronek , Mik and Hogs We get a top 6 player, RD and 3rd line center That’s quite the trade proposal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopCheese Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 Petey could turn him into a 40 goal guy if CBJ retained 2.5-3 mill we could gun for guentzel and have 2 dangerous lines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip The Mesh Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 32 minutes ago, Heretic said: Maybe a change of scenery fixes that? Remember Cam Neely? Dumbest thing the Canucks ever did! He was a keeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted June 13 Author Share Posted June 13 1 hour ago, Chon derry said: Now tell us how you really feel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 4 hours ago, Alflives said: Laine for Mik + Garland was talked about on 650. That would be insane in there wasn’t a hefty salary retention. At his contract, Laine is a huge negative. The dude is in the players assistance program for his mental health. Being overpaid in a Canadian market is not the right place for him to thrive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 2 hours ago, RWJC said: You and I have discussed Laine for some time. He would be such an interesting add to EP’s wing. I’m very tempted provided we have an exit strategy should the experiment fail. Right hand shot and, even as a depressed asset, he's still scoring at a 30-40 goal clip and, basically a point per game. Imo, the Canucks are going to be targeting at least one "depressed asset" going fwd. Obviously he's an offense first guy, but he's also a Finn and taught to play in all zones of the ice from a young age. It'd be a huge swing, no doubt, and I have no idea what it'd take to get him........probably more than the Canucks want to offer. Could they target two distressed assets and include Boqvist? Hronek and Mik Laine, Boqvist and a pick Or Laine (retention) and Boqvist That'd leave money to keep Zad and go after Pesce or another good defensive dman to play with Hughes Suter Miller Boes Hogz Petey Laine Podz ______ Garland PDG Blueger Laffy (apparently possible) Aman Hughes pesce Zad Boqvist Soucy Myers Juuls 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goose Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 absolutely not, unless he’s a born again defensive ace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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