HOFsedins Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 (edited) 1 minute ago, Devron said: Yeah it takes a team You changed tune pretty quick there. What happened to we might not even be in the playoffs without Hronek? Then you say it takes a team Edited June 13 by HOFsedins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 Just now, HOFsedins said: You changed tune pretty quick there. What do you mean? Was Hronek not a big part of our team. Wasn’t our defence core a big reason for our turnover? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip The Mesh Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 1 hour ago, PhillipBlunt said: Fire Mikeyev into the sun. I don't know, but I think that's worth a beer in it's self! Seriously, he hasn't worked out here and is not a Tocchet style player.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOFsedins Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 Just now, Devron said: What do you mean? Was Hronek not a big part of our team. Wasn’t our defence core a big reason for our turnover? You were the one that said we wouldnt be in the playoffs without Hronek. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 Just now, HOFsedins said: You were the one that said we wouldnt be in the playoffs without Hronek. I said it’s possible yes. Hronek was Hughes partner most of the year. Quinn Hughes is not taking us to the post season by himself. It takes a team to do that. Hronek was a big part of that. It’s not some big coincidence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 2 minutes ago, Rip The Mesh said: I don't know, but I think that's worth a beer in it's self! Seriously, he hasn't worked out here and is not a Tocchet style player.. I mean, I don't really want him fired into the sun, knowing his luck he'd probably miss it. He hasn't worked out here, and that's fine. Not every move a GM makes can be one that works out. I can't see any way that he returns to Vancouver this fall. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOFsedins Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 Just now, Devron said: I said it’s possible yes. Hronek was Hughes partner most of the year. Quinn Hughes is not taking us to the post season by himself. It takes a team to do that. Hronek was a big part of that. It’s not some big coincidence Its possible? Are you kidding me. You are all over the place. I bring up QH then you say it takes a team. Then you scale back and say wasnt Hronek not a big part of our Defence. My OP was directed at your comment saying we would not be in the playoffs without Hronek. Which is completely bogus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 Just now, HOFsedins said: Its possible? Are you kidding me. You are all over the place. I bring up QH then you say it takes a team. Then you scale back and say wasnt Hronek not a big part of our Defence. My OP was directed at your comment saying we would not be in the playoffs without Hronek. Which is completely bogus. Uh ok 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billabong Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 As long as it isn’t a top prospect or a 1st rounder, just do it. They can’t significantly improve the team and more specifically the top 6 with 4.75m on the 3rd line scoring 10 goals 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 Man I’m jonsing for a move. C’mon Allvin, Mikheyev to the Sun as Blunt put it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 can't see anyone dumb enough to see value in mikheyev at his full cap hit @ 4.75mil for 2 more years.. prolly cost you at least a 1st to trade at current value unless you are retaining a good chunk on that.. you might get someone to bite if mikheyev is at 2.5-3mil.. at 4.75mil? good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks curse Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 If there are some high 2nd round players they think can stankoven the transition to the nhl then milky + podz to CHI or Utah for high 2nd and a mid pick to flip to CAR for JG rights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 3 minutes ago, Devron said: Man I’m jonsing for a move. C’mon Allvin, Mikheyev to the Sun as Blunt put it You got some of those trades or signings, Patrik? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 1 hour ago, DeNiro said: I hope they learned their lesson with Mikheyev. For that contract to have value he would have had to play to his absolute ceiling. And even then that’s a fringe second line player. You can’t be paying almost 5 mil for bottom 6 guys. Was targeting Mikheyev part of a plan to court Kuzmenko? If so that was also short sighted. 1 hour ago, Devron said: Every GM has mistakes. This was their first attempt at free agency with this team and unfortunately Free Agency has more mistakes then wins I did wonder about the Mkheyev-Kuzmenko connection at the time. I cannot remember the exact sequence of events but I do remember that there was some positive reinforcement between the two. But signing Mik was a mistake. That is not just hindsight. Even at the time it looked like an overpayment and the commentary was at best neutral. It did not seem like a JR-type move. I wonder if JR just felt he had to let PA make the call and grow into the job, even if he made mistakes. I am guessing that PA has learned a lot. He certainly did well last summer and during the 23-24 season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
testycal Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 He starts in Vancouver, improves his game and is trade during the season. Do not have to hit a home run immediately all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronning4center Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 48 minutes ago, HarbularyBattery said: for sure. personally id still rather just keep hronek if he'll go for 7.5. So when huges gets 13 million you want our top pair to be 20.5 million dollars. This is not sound business.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck You Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 13 minutes ago, Devron said: Man I’m jonsing for a move. C’mon Allvin, Mikheyev to the Sun as Blunt put it I can spark the wick......with my blunt. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 2 minutes ago, Canuck You said: I can spark the wick......with my blunt. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 5 minutes ago, ronning4center said: So when huges gets 13 million you want our top pair to be 20.5 million dollars. This is not sound business.... By then the cap should be 100 mil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 (edited) 2 hours ago, Mike Vanderhoek said: I have a feeling he is going to go to Pittsburgh and the Canucks and Penguins will swap like a 4th rounder and 6th. He is not a player that brings negative value to a team and for all the screaming here about him he was on pace and finished the year at his career averages in terms of production. He is overpaid by a bit, that is all. There might be teams that have a hard time attracting free agents that might want to grab him. He was always previously used as a defensive specialist, but since being with the Canucks has been deployed more in the offensive zone. It turns out he didn’t have that extra offence hidden in his game that they thought. Provably be a package move or another “bad” contract coming back. He was a stunningly bad fit with Petterson which leaves a bad taste compared to early in the season. He did have similar production to Joshua, Blueger, and Hoglander. Edited June 13 by Provost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 2 hours ago, Devron said: Just get er done. Trade picks for all I care. Hes a weak link and that 5 million is gold And add Garland. 10 mil in cap room gets us Geuntzel. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR7 Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 1 hour ago, Coryberg said: Beauvillier had half a season left. Mik has 2 full seasons left. Big difference. I'm not unaware of that. I do believe lower standing teams will see value in Mik and parting with a 7th or C prospect could be feasible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester13 Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 With the cap going up, trading Mik shouldn't require a sweetener to a team like Utah or some other bottom feeder. We won't get hardly anything in return, but it'll be a great move for some team to get him for scraps. He's going to bounce back next year, it's just that we need the cap space or else we'd be keeping him and having him bounce back with us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithers joe Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 2 hours ago, JeremyCuddles said: Even my dumbass realized this was a dumb signing from the outset. We had giant holes on the blueline and they signed a forward for 5mil with zero 60 game seasons and one 20+ goal season at the age of 27. They promptly complained a few months after that they had no cap to add to the blueline. Yeah, cause you spent it on Mikheyev for some stupid reason. Now we'll have to move picks or a good prospect to dump this bum we never should have signed to begin with. you make it sound like it's easy to be a gm who only makes successful deals. i'm sure FA would be thrilled to talk to you. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHeart Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 I can’t believe the Canucks would want to trade him, this guy must really be an insider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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