ArmchairGM22 Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 34 minutes ago, Mike Vanderhoek said: I have a feeling he is going to go to Pittsburgh and the Canucks and Penguins will swap like a 4th rounder and 6th. He is not a player that brings negative value to a team and for all the screaming here about him he was on pace and finished the year at his career averages in terms of production. I think he's an easier move to a low cap team like Anaheim, Chicago, SJ or Utah....all of these teams need some vets who can support their high end young talent and have oodles of cap room. Pitts has about 12 mil if I recall but have alot of holes to fill, so I doubt they want to spend $4.5 or whatever Mik's cap hit is on him. I suspect those bottom feeders would happily take his contract on with a pick, because as you suggest, he's not bringing negative value and should he return to form speed wise, he is a good deadline chip the following year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairGM22 Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 29 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Yet, this board is flooded with proposals for Jake G. 1-800- call- ghosts are you a psychic hotline? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck You Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 This sounds like a whole bunch of nothing..Seravalli trying to get on the Nucks fans good side...He said a whole bunch of shit we already knew. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure_Pavel Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 54 minutes ago, DeNiro said: I hope they learned their lesson with Mikheyev. For that contract to have value he would have had to play to his absolute ceiling. And even then that’s a fringe second line player. You can’t be paying almost 5 mil for bottom 6 guys. Was targeting Mikheyev part of a plan to court Kuzmenko? If so that was also short sighted. I think they have learned, I was pretty miffed at the time as they said they needed to improve the defense but needed cap space and then spent all our remaining cap on Mikheyev. They have since fix the D core mostly, and have been better signing depth to reasonable contracts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR7 Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 39 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Trade him for a 6th round draft pick at 50% retained. It's not as good getting rid of him outright. But it does save the team $2.375 million for the next two years. Even San Jose probably would be ok with that deal. Chicago gave a 5th for Beauvillier, I'm sure someone will take Mik full value for a 7th 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 (edited) 41 minutes ago, canucks curse said: There are some teams that really need to hit the floor - Utah EF on Marek show saying Utah wants character vets with 2 yrs left on their contract for cheap acquisition price until their kids are ready - milky fits that but many others do too To Utah: Filip Hronek Ilya Mikheyev To Vancouver: Lawson Crouse 2024 3rd round pick (Edmonton) We then trade that 3rd round pick to Carolina for the rights to Jake Guentzel. We can then offer Guentzel 8 years, so 8.5x8, $68 million total money... Crouse Miller Boeser Guentzel Pettersson Lekkerimaki Our top 6 is complete... Edited June 13 by Elias Pettersson 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 1 minute ago, Elias Pettersson said: To Utah: Filip Hronek Ilya Mikheyev To Vancouver: Lawson Crouse 2024 3rd round pick (Edmonton) We then trade that 3rd round pick to Carolina for the rights to Jake Guentzel. We can then offer Guentzel 8 years, so 8.5x8, $68 million total money... Crouse Miller Boeser Guentzel Pettersson Lekkerimaki Our top 6 is complete... Why are you trading Hronek to dump Mikheyev? 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 1 minute ago, Devron said: Why are you trading Hronek to dump Mikheyev? For Lawson Crouse? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure10Kuzmenko96 Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 You guys think Anaheim will take Mikheyev? They did in NHL 2024 when I offered Mikheyev, 2025 6th and 7th for Colton White (D) and 2024 2nd round pick 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 1 minute ago, Elias Pettersson said: For Lawson Crouse? Fairz I don’t understand trading Hronek. Never will but I guess we’ll see what happens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarbularyBattery Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 2 minutes ago, Devron said: Why are you trading Hronek to dump Mikheyev? I assume its contingent on getting a top-4 RD in UFA, like montour or pesce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairGM22 Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 1 minute ago, Bure10Kuzmenko96 said: You guys think Anaheim will take Mikheyev? They did in NHL 2024 when I offered Mikheyev, 2025 6th and 7th for Colton White (D) and 2024 2nd round pick The bottom feeder teams like Anaheim, SJ, Chicago and even Utah (Low cap) need a player like him. I cannot see it being hard to get off his contract, particularly if we throw in a sweetener like a 4/5th or a B prospect we don't have room for. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 Just now, HarbularyBattery said: I assume its contingent on getting a top-4 RD in UFA, like montour or pesce Yeah I get it but we are gonna pay them too. They are just older. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck You Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 5 minutes ago, Devron said: Why are you trading Hronek to dump Mikheyev? Because he has the I want way more money then I'm worth syndrome. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coryberg Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 14 minutes ago, CR7 said: Chicago gave a 5th for Beauvillier, I'm sure someone will take Mik full value for a 7th Beauvillier had half a season left. Mik has 2 full seasons left. Big difference. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 Just now, Canuck You said: Because he has the I want way more money then I'm worth syndrome. Reported. Not facts 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 4 minutes ago, Devron said: Fairz I don’t understand trading Hronek. Never will but I guess we’ll see what happens Hronek wants $8 million. We aren't paying that. So unless his demands drop he will be traded. Packaging Mikheyev with Hronek to get a true power forward in Crouse is a great move IMO. Plus, we open up the cap space to sign Guentzel. Our top 6 is literally complete and just as good as Florida's. As for RHD, we have several options in free agency. Myers will be re-signed, we have Juulsen, Chatfield looks like an option. So we need one more guy. We could always make another trade. Hoglander plus our 2025 1st can probably get us a top 4 RHD... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarbularyBattery Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 3 minutes ago, Devron said: Yeah I get it but we are gonna pay them too. They are just older. for sure. personally id still rather just keep hronek if he'll go for 7.5. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 Just now, Elias Pettersson said: Hronek wants $8 million. We aren't paying that. So unless his demands drop he will be traded. Packaging Mikheyev with Hronek to get a true power forward in Crouse is a great move IMO. Plus, we open up the cap space to sign Guentzel. Our top 6 is literally complete and just as good as Florida's. As for RHD, we have several options in free agency. Myers will be re-signed, we have Juulsen, Chatfield looks like an option. So we need one more guy. We could always make another trade. Hoglander plus our 2025 1st can probably get us a top 4 RHD... I want 8 million too. Doesn’t mean they won’t come to an agreement. We fall for this stuff every year. I get it, we are basing this stuff on the reports or speculations we get. But I just don’t see us improving by subtracting Defence for forwards. No we get to where we were last year without Hronek. In fact I think it’s possible we don’t even make the playoffs. Hronek was a huge part of our resurgence even if he faded half way through the season. His first playoffs this year too if I’m not mistaken 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOFsedins Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Devron said: I want 8 million too. Doesn’t mean they won’t come to an agreement. We fall for this stuff every year. I get it, we are basing this stuff on the reports or speculations we get. But I just don’t see us improving by subtracting Defence for forwards. No we get to where we were last year without Hronek. In fact I think it’s possible we don’t even make the playoffs. Hronek was a huge part of our resurgence even if he faded half way through the season. His first playoffs this year too if I’m not mistaken Did you just say we wouldn't be in the playoffs without Hronek? L.o.l Didnt know Hronek was our Norris. Oh wait isnt that our Captain. Edited June 13 by HOFsedins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronning4center Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 25 minutes ago, Devron said: Why are you trading Hronek to dump Mikheyev? Because it's value added. Hronek is not an 8 million dollar player and neither is mik. Saving 13 million is a big deal to reshape this team 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 11 minutes ago, Devron said: I want 8 million too. Doesn’t mean they won’t come to an agreement. We fall for this stuff every year. I get it, we are basing this stuff on the reports or speculations we get. But I just don’t see us improving by subtracting Defence for forwards. No we get to where we were last year without Hronek. In fact I think it’s possible we don’t even make the playoffs. Hronek was a huge part of our resurgence even if he faded half way through the season. His first playoffs this year too if I’m not mistaken People just don't get it.. it wasn't even that long ago... apparently Petey wasn't gonna sign for under $12M: https://canucksarmy.com/news/report-elias-pettersson-canucks-week-talk-contract-believed-8-years-12-million-annually "I think it starts with a 12. I don’t know it’s $12.5, $12.25, $12.75 — either way, it’s going to be significant." -- Seravelli 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift-4 Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 1 hour ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Yet, this board is flooded with proposals for Jake G. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 56 minutes ago, ArmchairGM22 said: 1-800- call- ghosts are you a psychic hotline? Spirit Union says I should say "No comment". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 11 minutes ago, HOFsedins said: Did you just say we wouldn't be in the playoffs without Hronek? L.o.l Didnt know Hronek was our Norris. Oh wait isnt that our Captain. Yeah it takes a team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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