[PGT] Holy Cow we did Things!! - Free Agency Thread - July 1st

[stawns]

20 minutes ago, Bure10Kuzmenko96 said:

lmfao weren't you the one who wanted these types of players? 

 

I wanted depth players, but a little higher quality.  

 

I didn't want the $9.5 million kind of player 

Edited Monday at 05:54 PM by stawns

[Dizzle]

2 minutes ago, BPA said:

Skinner $3M x 3yrs??

 

 

Worth considering 

[chris12345]

1 minute ago, Blitz-Pix said:

 

 

What we learned in Free Agency this year...

 

Don't let your Star Players (or even your mid level players) get to UFA.

JR/PA...if you plan on resigning (extending) Boeser please do it this offseason.

He's gonna get 8 years and $9-$10 million next offseason with the cap going up even more.

 

 

How is that a learning this year?

 

If I was a player and got to July 1 it is open season.

[Dr. Crossbar]

2 minutes ago, nergish said:

I mean, all three forwards we brought in are cable of 15+ goals. DeBrusk could be a 30-goal guy in the right situation...

Considering we held onto Bleuger, Joshua, and still have Suter under contract... this is some of the best forward depth we've ever had.

 

Was hoping for more of a gamebreaker, and we still need to address the defense. But I'm very interested to see how the forward group comes together.

 

Good perspective. It's not all doom and gloom. 

 

We need to keep working on D.

[Grinch]

1 minute ago, Dizzle said:

 

 

Worth considering 

Skinner to oilers 

[Déjà Vu]

5 minutes ago, Nucker67 said:

OUT

Lindholm

Zadorov

Mikheyev

Lafferty

Cole

DeSmith

 

IN

DeBrusk

Sherwood

Heinen

Smith

Forbort

 

Team isn't as good. I sure hope Allvin has something else cooking.

ya team isnt better with current signings, so only time will tell if we get better  or add more pieces ....kinda nervous if this is what we gonna ice, alvin did say he wanted to get better in the offseason thus far we lost 3 good players and only gained 1 (debrusk)

[RupertKBD]

1 minute ago, Ghostsof1915 said:

Gotta give up something to get something.

 

I suppose.....but I don't see how moving a million dollar player for a top 4 defender works out. Especially since it means that we lose some of the offense we were so desperately lacking....and not only that, offense that is an absolute bargain....

[Integra250]

6 minutes ago, van_can_fan said:

man, I agree. Losing Zadorov really stings—especially to BOS. OUCH

At least he’s out of our conference. We’ll only see him 2x in the regular season, and maybe in the SCF  

[JamesB]

Very happy with what the Canucks have done so far. When Benning was GM I dreaded the opening of free agency. With JR and PA it is a lot of fun. Here is what I like.

 

1. The Canucks did not sign Zad and Lindy. I like both guys and both played well in the playoffs but 5M x 6 years is too much for Zad and 7.75 x 7 is too much for LIndy. The Canucks are rumored to have offered 4.5 x 5 to Zad and 7 x 7 to Lindy. I think they were right to draw the line there and even those numbers would have made me nervous. It looks to me like both guys had their value raised by "recency bias" (a good playoff). I also would not have paid Cole 3.1.

 

2. The Heinen and Sherwood contracts are great value. When everyone else is focused on the bright shiny objects it pays to go under the radar. (Sorry for mixing metaphors.) These guys add speed and are "hard to play against". Should be great fits for the Tocchet system.

 

3. I also like the Forbort signing. He provides size and defensive responsibility at a low price. He should be okay at 3LD. It would have been nice to get Brandon Dillon but the Canucks have picked up another value contract.

 

4. Debrusk at 5.5 x 7 is obviously the biggest risk (and the biggest contract). Given his age (27) the term is fine and he should be a fit for the Tocchet system. The Canucks needed to add some offensive punch and the high end forwards (Guentzel,  Reinhart, Lindy, Stamkos, Toffoli) were too expensive in both term and cap hit. I think the Canucks made the right call.

 

5. It is not hard to see the logic of the overall roster construction approach. (Unlike Benning, whose approach was pretty much logic-free.)

 

6. The Canucks still need to re-sign Silovs and they will try to get a good 4/5 D, maybe in a trade.

 

7. IF I were a Leaf fan I would not be happy.

 

 

 

 

Edited Monday at 05:57 PM by JamesB

[Ghostsof1915]

I'm blaming Honkin Hronek and his things obsession.

[RupertKBD]

6 minutes ago, tas said:

you explain his value and then say teams wouldn't be interested?

 

the canucks don't need 24 goals for a million, they need 35 goals and have $7 million to play with. 

 

I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying it would be beyond stupid to give up that kind of offense at that price.

[DeNiro]

Their task now it to raise the level of our D core.

 

Losing Cole and Zadorov and replacing them with Forbort isn’t enough.

 

They’re gonna have to be really smart with their remaining cap. Gotta find a guy that raises the overall ceiling. 

[HKSR]

1 minute ago, Déjà Vu said:

ya team isnt better with current signings, so only time will tell if we get better  or add more pieces ....kinda nervous if this is what we gonna ice, alvin did say he wanted to get better in the offseason thus far we lost 3 good players and only gained 1 (debrusk)

Bottom 6 is  better.

Defence is worse.

Top end forwards worse.  

 

Nearly $4M in cap space remaining.

[Dr. Crossbar]

Lind and Zad came later

Mikheyev wasn't producing

Lafferty was good

Cole was good and bad

DeSmith was good and bad

 

Keep it in perspective.

[Déjà Vu]

6 minutes ago, nergish said:

I mean, all three forwards we brought in are cable of 15+ goals. DeBrusk could be a 30-goal guy in the right situation...

Considering we held onto Bleuger, Joshua, and still have Suter under contract... this is some of the best forward depth we've ever had.

 

Was hoping for more of a gamebreaker, and we still need to address the defense. But I'm very interested to see how the forward group comes together.

one is guaranteed (debrusk) others are gambles at bargain basement deals, but still doesnt change the fact what we lost and what we got today

[DrJockitch]

3 minutes ago, Grinch said:

Skinner to oilers 

Seems like good fit, won’t be asked to play defence. 

[Ghostsof1915]

Look on the bright side.

Maybe Zads will bomb in Boston, and we can pick him up at the trade deadline?

[tas]

Just now, RupertKBD said:

 

I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying it would be beyond stupid to give up that kind of offense at that price.

I disagree. the canucks need top 6 help badly, and hoglander isn't good in the top 6. they need a legitimate top forward that can take heat off petey. 

[Blitz-Pix]

1 minute ago, chris12345 said:

How is that a learning this year?

 

If I was a player and got to July 1 it is open season.

 

I was suggesting that if we're planning on keeping Boeser, start negoiating now.

If he's not sure about about extending then be prepared to trade him on or before the TDL.

 

  

[VforVasili]

9 minutes ago, Nucker67 said:

OUT

Lindholm

Zadorov

Mikheyev

Lafferty

Cole

DeSmith

 

IN

DeBrusk

Sherwood

Heinen

Smith

Forbort

 

Team isn't as good. I sure hope Allvin has something else cooking.

How many of those players in the Out category were added during the season though? Surely makes more sense to compare how we started last year to how we started this year. 

[Rip The Mesh]

32 minutes ago, SilentSam said:

AHL Center ,    25 yrs ..  perhaps they’re penciling Raty or Karlsson for a trade , or move up to the Canucks?

 

Prob in Abby; If so, that's ok, that opens doors for 1 or 2 that may be ready..

[EB43]

Defence is bad..

Forbert is described as a turnover machine.. and now with no cap space, Myers moves back into top 4, where he is also a turnover machine.. we need a big trade to upgrade, we don’t have the cap space for a signing.

[HarbularyBattery]

6 minutes ago, BobbyClarke said:

I don’t know why people are so high on Lindholm. He was literally good in a handful of games for us last year. He was terrible last year in Calgary and not great the year before. We still have Miller/Petey/blugar down the middle. We needed a PF winger more than Lindholm. 

Agreed. He played well with Joshua and Garland but i wouldnt say he was light years better than Bluegar in that position. We had the best 3rd line in hockey when it was Bluegar centering Garland and Joshua. 

 

I have no problem with these forward moves. We're much better up front. Debrusk can score. Heinen can score. 

 

We'll have a terrific 4 line attack next year, and guys who can step up and fill in for injuries in a pinch. 

 

Our D on the other hand..

 

We badly need another puck mover on the right side. Myers shouldn't be expected to play 2nd pair minutes either. 

[Déjà Vu]

Just now, HKSR said:

Bottom 6 is  better.

Defence is worse.

Top end forwards worse.  

 

Nearly $4M in cap space remaining.

Agree 100%  but think alvin just didnt have the cash to lure in a JG , with our taxes and stuff, made sense for him to sign in Tampa  really shocked we didnt get tyler , he went to SJ, makes no sense

[Jaimito]

Ahl?