[PGT] Holy Cow we did Things!! - Free Agency Thread - July 1st

[tas]

3 minutes ago, Jaimito said:

 

 

my gut says no. 

[filthy animal]

18 minutes ago, WHL rocks said:

Forbort turned 32 in March. But it's a year 1.5 mill depth Dman signing. 

 

When it comes to any term the guys are young. 

 

Stamkos got 8 mill 4 yrs. That's a horrible contract. He's 34 yrs old. 

 

Tanev got 6 yrs he's 34 yrs old. But his body so beat up he'll likely be done in 2 years. 

 

We didn't make any mistakes by over paying for has been old guys.. 

 

 

 

Thats what i thought too. The terms for the smaller pieces gives us flexibility and wont anchor us long term. We got slightly less skilled but a hell.of a lot tougher to play against

 

I think theres more there from Debrusk

[DeNiro]

6 minutes ago, WHL rocks said:

Im so thankful we dodnt do anything stupid like that..

 

8 mill 4 yrs 34 yrs old....

 

Horrible contract.. one of the worst contracts signed today...

 

I wouldn’t even want him at 4 mill 

 

 

Umm you realize he scored 40 and had 81 points last season right?

 

His production is not going anywhere over the next 4 years. He’ll be producing like Pavelski.

[WHL rocks]

Debrusk is the best contract signed today by any team imo. 

 

He's going to be a bargain as soon as next season. 27 yr old  30+ goal guy for the next few yrs, defensively responsible,  can PK and will PP here on this team. 

 

Star player in the NHL for the next 5 years. 

 

 

 

[syntheticity]

18 minutes ago, JayDangles said:

So how else could they have gotten that big difference maker?

They woukd have had to either overpay, or kidnap someone.

Which one are you suggesting is the better plan?

 

Agreed 

 

Once Guenztel was off the table, Debrusk was a defensible plan B option.

 

The only other options I can see for an appreciable upgrade over Debrusk within the next year would be:

-if a future trade opens up (e.g. if Carolina drops their asking price for Necas).

-if someone sells at the TDL

-if Lek transitions faster than expected 

-if someome else on the current roster (e.g. Hogs or Joshua) takes a big step forward this year

[HKSR]

17 minutes ago, WHL rocks said:

He's  6'6 on CapFriendly but IF he's 6'7 that's even better. 

 

Either way we have a huge D core. 

 

Myers 6'8

Deharnais 6'6

Soucy 6'5

Forbort 6'4

Julssen 6'2

 

That's just awe inspiring cant wait for season to start.

 

Deharnais is going to surprise à lot of people.  Canucks coaches are going to use the same magic on him as they did on Joshua. Hes going to be a stud for us..

Hockeydb has him as 6'7".

 

Either way, I liked what flashes I saw from him in the playoffs for EDM.  Played a bit like Myers, which isn't a bad thing.  I'm not talking chaos giraffe... I'm talking good Myers.

[Devron]

12 minutes ago, tas said:

my gut says no. 

I mean if Podkolzin turned into a first line player then I’d say so but I think that’s a big stretch at this point 

[Dr. Crossbar]

4 minutes ago, WHL rocks said:

Debrusk is the best contract signed today by any team imo. 

 

He's going to be a bargain as soon as next season. 27 yr old  30+ goal guy for the next few yrs, defensively responsible,  can PK and will PP here on this team. 

 

Star player in the NHL for the next 5 years. 

 

 

 

 

He'll still be great when Lekkeramaki enters the roster. 

[Dr. Crossbar]

1 minute ago, HKSR said:

Hockeydb has him as 6'7".

 

Either way, I liked what flashes I saw from him in the playoffs for EDM.  Played a bit like Myers, which isn't a bad thing.  I'm not talking chaos giraffe... I'm talking good Myers.

 

He'll become more responsible defensively and physically under our coaching staff.

[Blitz-Pix]

18 minutes ago, DeNiro said:

Umm you realize he scored 40 and had 81 points last season right?

 

His production is not going anywhere over the next 4 years. He’ll be producing like Pavelski.

 

He's played VERY well the past number of seasons IMO...

 

If I were to nitpick though...I would say his point totals might have something to do with playing with Kucherov & Point. 

Kucherov had 100 assists this year...It's sort of like Hyman playing on McDavids line IMO. 

 

I'm not expecting Stamkos to be a point per game or 40 goal scorer in Nashville... Just my opinion however.

 

He's also never played in the Western Conference where they play a bigger, heavier game and travel takes a big toll on players health.

 

 

 

 

Edited July 2 by Blitz-Pix

[VegasCanuck]

3 minutes ago, Devron said:

I mean if Podkolzin turned into a first line player then I’d say so but I think that’s a big stretch at this point 

Podkolzin is only 23, most power forwards don't really figure out their game till 24 / 25

[Devron]

2 minutes ago, VegasCanuck said:

Podkolzin is only 23, most power forwards don't really figure out their game till 24 / 25

I agree but they also don’t figure it out too. Fingers crossed, even if he can be a bottom 6 guy that chips in would be nice 

[JayDangles]

10 minutes ago, syntheticity said:

 

Agreed 

 

Once Guenztel was off the table, Debrusk was a defensible plan B option.

 

The only other options I can see for an appreciable upgrade over Debrusk within the next year would be:

-if a future trade opens up (e.g. if Carolina drops their asking price for Necas).

-if someone sells at the TDL

-if Lek transitions faster than expected 

-if someome else on the current roster (e.g. Hogs or Joshua) takes a big step forward this year

I give management a B+ for Free Agency. Simply because they had a plan A which fell through, and they carried out signing some size and grit for decent contracts, and didn't get suckered into anything.

[Dr. Crossbar]

I'll say this, though, Pettersson really needs to take his game to the next level. We can't be paying for that type of production and have him go missing while the team improves. 

 

 

 

 

Edited July 2 by Dr. Crossbar

[Devron]

1 minute ago, Dr. Crossbar said:

I'll say this, though, Pettersson really needs to take his game to the next level. We can't be paying for that type of production and have him go missing while the team improves. 

 

 

 

 

Streaky Pete 

[Dr. Crossbar]

Just now, Devron said:

Streaky Pete 

 

Not so fun.

[Devron]

Just now, Dr. Crossbar said:

 

Not so fun.

I’m as confident that Petey will be fine as much as some fans are confident with management,

 

I’m very confident 

[Junkyard Dog]

Another thing to consider is, barring another significant injury(knock on Sherwood), we are getting a full year with Soucy. 

That would help us a lot. 

[EB43]

28 minutes ago, Jaimito said:

 

 

Am I the only one that doesn’t see Podkolzin as more than a bottom 6 grinder?

[Junkyard Dog]

Just now, EB43 said:

Am I the only one that doesn’t see Podkolzin as more than a bottom 6 grinder?

Atm yeah. Could see him as a top 9 grinder with some scoring though. 

[Devron]

Just now, EB43 said:

Am I the only one that doesn’t see Podkolzin as more than a bottom 6 grinder?

No, he still could be a number of things, but playing it safe I’d say bottom 6 forward. Looks really nice on paper though doesn’t it

[Dr. Crossbar]

Just now, Devron said:

I’m as confident that Petey will be fine as much as some fans are confident with management,

 

I’m very confident 

 

I call that ... Hronek level confidence. 

[HKSR]

7 minutes ago, Dr. Crossbar said:

I'll say this, though, Pettersson really needs to take his game to the next level. We can't be paying for that type of production and have him go missing while the team improves. 

 

 

 

 

Yeah, the fate of this core lies with Petey.

[HKSR]

3 minutes ago, EB43 said:

Am I the only one that doesn’t see Podkolzin as more than a bottom 6 grinder?

At the moment?  Yeah.  He still has solid potential to move higher than that though.  This year is a very significant year for him.  He needs a bit of a breakout like Hogs had last year.

[RWJC]

Soooooo, big unanswered question of the day…

 

when are we extending Boeser and for how much? Preemptive deal or gamble he makes himself with even more? Haha, the frenzy continues 

 

 

Edited July 2 by RWJC