[PGT] Holy Cow we did Things!! - Free Agency Thread - July 1st

[DeNiro]

1 minute ago, HKSR said:

Carolina still needs to re-sign Jarvis, Drury, and possibly Necas.  $10M in cap space.

Yep and they lost key pieces in Pesce and Skjei and failed to close the deal with Guentzel despite meeting his terms exactly.

[HKSR]

1 minute ago, DeNiro said:

Yep and they lost key pieces in Pesce and Skjei and failed to close the deal with Guentzel despite meeting his terms exactly.

You gotta think they look back now and wished they traded Necas for Miller.  All their troubles right now wouldn't exist.

[DeNiro]

Still need more puck movement on the back end.

 

Looking at Florida’s D they got it done with a very average defense core but they all bought into a system and had forwards that all played strong two way games that helped the D out.

I would say we need one more veteran D man to balance out this core. Forbort needs to be a rotating number 6 guy along with Desharnais.

 

 

Edited Tuesday at 12:21 AM by DeNiro

[JayDangles]

39 minutes ago, Grandmaster said:

We made good moves but never got that big difference maker to play with Petey. That should have been priority # 1.

 

My grade to the Canucks is a C-

So how else could they have gotten that big difference maker?

They woukd have had to either overpay, or kidnap someone.

Which one are you suggesting is the better plan?

[WHL rocks]

14 minutes ago, tas said:

forbort is 32 right?

 

edit: heinen is 29 in 4 days. 

Forbort turned 32 in March. But it's a year 1.5 mill depth Dman signing. 

 

When it comes to any term the guys are young. 

 

Stamkos got 8 mill 4 yrs. That's a horrible contract. He's 34 yrs old. 

 

Tanev got 6 yrs he's 34 yrs old. But his body so beat up he'll likely be done in 2 years. 

 

We didn't make any mistakes by over paying for has been old guys.. 

 

 

[HKSR]

4 minutes ago, JayDangles said:

So how else could they have gotten that big difference maker?

They woukd have had to either overpay, or kidnap someone.

Which one are you suggesting is the better plan?

Definitely kidnapping.

[DeNiro]

4 minutes ago, JayDangles said:

So how else could they have gotten that big difference maker?

They woukd have had to either overpay, or kidnap someone.

Which one are you suggesting is the better plan?

I would have paid Stamkos 8 mil, but the reality is that would have not even gotten him here. 

[HKSR]

Just now, WHL rocks said:

Forbort turned 32 in March. But it's a year 1.5 mill depth Dman signing. 

 

When it comes to any term the guys are young. 

 

Stamkos got 8 mill 4 yrs. That's a horrible contract. He's 34 yrs old. 

 

Tanev got 6 yrs he's 34 yrs old. But his body so beat up he'll likely be done in 2 years. 

 

We didn't make any mistakes by over paying for has been old guys.. 

 

 

Man I wanna see Tanev playing at 40yo lol.

[Mordekai]

12 minutes ago, Crabcakes said:

Forbort is 3 years younger than the guy he replaces at half the price

You probably meant Cole who got 3mil but he technically replaced Z

[Dr. Crossbar]

1 minute ago, HKSR said:

Man I wanna see Tanev playing at 40yo lol.

 

On the top pairing ... lol ... can't wait!

[WHL rocks]

I think Vincent Desharnais is going to be a big upgrade over Cole on our 3rd pair. 

 

6'6 RHD he's only had 1 real full NHLseason. Late bloomer. 

 

Reminds me of Dakota Joshua. Desharnais is going to be the next Joshua on this team but on Defense. 

 

This coaching staff is going to turn him into a real good player. 

[HKSR]

1 minute ago, WHL rocks said:

I think Vincent Desharnais is going to be a big upgrade over Cole on our 3rd pair. 

 

6'6 RHD he's only had 1 real full NHLseason. Late bloomer. 

 

Reminds me of Dakota Joshua. Desharnais is going to be the next Joshua on this team but on Defense. 

 

This coaching staff is going to turn him into a real good player. 

Desharnais is 6'7" 

[Crabcakes]

1 hour ago, Moeknows said:

To be honest I'm a bit disapointed. Debrusk is a good add but I don't see that we secured an impactful scoring winger like Guentzel or Toffoli to play with Petey. I'm kinda Meh about Alvins work today in free agency.

 

A couple of points: 

• Debrusk is 27, Toffoli is 32
• Debrusk is fast, Toffoli is not
• Debrusk plays special teams, Toffoli does not
• production is about the same

As for Guentzel, he was just about the only high end player worth bidding on.  The winner was in a no tax state.  It's pretty tough to compete with that.

 

Credit to Allvin for the quick pivot to Plan B

[WHL rocks]

Debrusk is going to be a 30+ goal guy playing full time top 6 with Pettersson.. that's an expectation and not wishful thinking for me. 

 

 

[Junkyard Dog]

2 minutes ago, WHL rocks said:

I think Vincent Desharnais is going to be a big upgrade over Cole on our 3rd pair. 

 

6'6 RHD he's only had 1 real full NHLseason. Late bloomer. 

 

Reminds me of Dakota Joshua. Desharnais is going to be the next Joshua on this team but on Defense. 

 

This coaching staff is going to turn him into a real good player. 

That the bet they’ve made signing him. 
 

It’s gonna be a solid test to see how good our D coaches are. If they can get VD into another gear imagine how they will eventually shape up PeteD and Willander with ample time. 

[Crabcakes]

6 minutes ago, Mordekai said:

You probably meant Cole who got 3mil but he technically replaced Z

Forbort doesn't compare to Zadorov.  Nobody does.

[JayDangles]

7 minutes ago, DeNiro said:

I would have paid Stamkos 8 mil, but the reality is that would have not even gotten him here. 

But again, if Stamkos says no then it ends there. 

Some folks just can't grasp that if a player we want signs somewhere else, it doesn't mean management did anything wrong or "missed out". Lots of players don't want to come to Canada, let alone the Canucks.

[Captain Kirk]

Still need another quality D man.

[van_can_fan]

3 hours ago, Canuck You said:

7 new additions...Not too shabby at all.

 

I was disappointed about Zadorov. Also wanted Guentzel

 

But gaining depth is definitely a positive

[WHL rocks]

1 minute ago, HKSR said:

Desharnais is 6'7" 

He's  6'6 on CapFriendly but IF he's 6'7 that's even better. 

 

Either way we have a huge D core. 

 

Myers 6'8

Deharnais 6'6

Soucy 6'5

Forbort 6'4

Julssen 6'2

 

That's just awe inspiring cant wait for season to start.

 

Deharnais is going to surprise à lot of people.  Canucks coaches are going to use the same magic on him as they did on Joshua. Hes going to be a stud for us..

[RWJC]

17 minutes ago, DeNiro said:

Still need more puck movement on the back end.

 

Looking at Florida’s D they got it done with a very average defense core but they all bought into a system and had forwards that all played strong two way games that helped the D out.

I would say we need one more veteran D man to balance out this core. Forbort needs to be a rotating number 6 guy along with Desharnais.

 

 

Exactly. One more two way Dman with some speed and O skill. Doesnt have to be a stud, just someone mid range and reliable 

[WHL rocks]

12 minutes ago, DeNiro said:

I would have paid Stamkos 8 mil, but the reality is that would have not even gotten him here. 

Im so thankful we dodnt do anything stupid like that..

 

8 mill 4 yrs 34 yrs old....

 

Horrible contract.. one of the worst contracts signed today...

 

I wouldn’t even want him at 4 mill 

 

 

[Jaimito]

 

 

[RWJC]

17 minutes ago, WHL rocks said:

Forbort turned 32 in March. But it's a year 1.5 mill depth Dman signing. 

 

When it comes to any term the guys are young. 

 

Stamkos got 8 mill 4 yrs. That's a horrible contract. He's 34 yrs old. 

 

Tanev got 6 yrs he's 34 yrs old. But his body so beat up he'll likely be done in 2 years. 

 

We didn't make any mistakes by over paying for has been old guys.. 

 

 

Stamkos’ deal is not horrible. 
You pay a premium for goals, and he has not slowed down regardless of age. If anything his contract is warranted regardless of age, imho 

 

The only issue I can see with it is that he’s had great set up people in TB. Does NSH provide him with the same? Unlikely 

Edited Tuesday at 12:42 AM by RWJC

[CanucksJay]

2 hours ago, Rick_theRyper said:

Leagues best 3rd line stay together or does it get shaken up? 

 

Debrusk Petey Garland

Joshua  Miller Boeser 

Heinen Blueger Hoglander 

 

 

Oooh

Those lines look pretty nice...