RWJC Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 Utah Willing To Move Sixth Overall Pick June 17th, 2024 at 6:11pm CST • By Josh Cybulski Utah appears to be willing to move their sixth overall pick in this month’s NHL Entry Draft (as per David Pagnotta of The Fourth Period). The franchise could open up a lot of trade options if the reports are true and it would be a departure for general manager Bill Armstrong as he spent the past few seasons accumulating draft picks year after year while the team was playing in Arizona. The sixth overall pick would hold a lot of value for Utah and could certainly be part of a package to fetch the team a premium asset. For context, Florida Panthers forward Matthew Tkachuk was drafted by the Calgary Flames sixth overall in the 2016 NHL Entry Draft. The timing to move the pick makes sense, given that Utah is entering a new market and a big trade at the draft would create a buzz around the team. They also don’t have to contend with any pending cap crunch as the team is slated to have $43.5MM in cap space (as per CapFriendly) heading into the summer. Utah also has a deep prospect cupboard and has a ton of draft picks available heading into the next few years. The team has just one first-round pick this year, however, they have 13 picks in this year’s draft including three second-round picks and three third-round picks. The team also holds ten picks in next year’s draft, including four second-round picks. There is no indication as to what Armstrong might do with the pick, and he is a general manager who will go off the board at times and create a surprise. He mentioned a few weeks ago that he wasn’t “in the market for buying 33-year-olds but was looking at 23-year-old players.” If that pattern holds, it’s conceivable to think that Utah could target a younger established NHL player with the sixth overall pick. Some of the players who might be available to draft with the sixth overall pick this year (as per Sportsnet’s draft rankings) could be forward Tij Iginla of the Kelowna Rockets (WHL), defenseman Anton Silayev of the KHL, and defenseman Zayne Parekh, of the Saginaw Spirit (OHL). It is not common to see teams move top-5 draft picks; however, the 6-10 picks have been traded with a lot more frequency. In 2012 the Pittsburgh Penguins dealt Jordan Staal to the Pittsburgh Penguins for Brian Dumoulin, Brandon Sutter and the eighth overall pick which they used to select Derrick Pouliot. In 2017, the New York Rangers sent Derek Stepan and Antti Raanta to Arizona for Tony DeAngelo and the seventh overall which they used to pick Lias Andersson. Finally, just two years ago the Ottawa Senators sent the seventh overall pick in 2022, along with a second and fourth round to Chicago for Alex DeBrincat. https://www.prohockeyrumors.com/2024/06/utah-willing-to-move-sixth-overall-pick.html#ref=home 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Alflives Posted June 17 Popular Post Share Posted June 17 Too funny. Yes. Matt Tkatchuk was a 6OA pick. But so was Jake Virtanen. Picks, even high ones, are nice but aren’t a sure thing. Anyone trading a sure thing high end player for 6OA is taking a huge risk. 4 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 Yeah yeah 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shekky Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 4 minutes ago, Alflives said: Too funny. Yes. Matt Tkatchuk was a 6OA pick. But so was Jake Virtanen. Picks, even high ones, are nice but aren’t a sure thing. Anyone trading a sure thing high end player for 6OA is taking a huge risk. yeah unless you really want a player within that range but its a gamble whenever you draft a player 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BTueyCanucksFan Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 Rights to Hronek for 6th overall?? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 So weird to be hearing Utah and not Arizona. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B Cooper Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 4 minutes ago, BTueyCanucksFan said: Rights to Hronek for 6th overall?? He doesn’t have that kind of value. But Id do it if I was Van. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 16 minutes ago, Alflives said: Too funny. Yes. Matt Tkatchuk was a 6OA pick. But so was Jake Virtanen. Picks, even high ones, are nice but aren’t a sure thing. Anyone trading a sure thing high end player for 6OA is taking a huge risk. Of course. It's all about chance in the end and the higher the pick the better the chance. It does of course mean there will be a few duds, even at 1st overall. That being said, I think it's the fact that you can "choose your destiny" with a draft pick is what gives it its value. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarbularyBattery Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 (edited) ill believe it when i see it the Utah Heckin Chonkers (Utah HC) aren't fooling me @Coconutsalso we called the name Edited June 17 by HarbularyBattery 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 13 minutes ago, BTueyCanucksFan said: Rights to Hronek for 6th overall?? It's hronek, not the rights to hronek. He's not a ufa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 If Utah adds Mike Kesselring to the 6th over all, and Hronek is wanting a bit too much--Then do the trade. There will likely be a few teams, willing, and able, to trade with Utah. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Coconuts Posted June 18 Popular Post Share Posted June 18 Hronek and a 3rd to Utah for the 6OA, extension worked out beforehand Draft Iginla and piss off Calgary Profit 4 5 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JeremyCuddles Posted June 18 Popular Post Share Posted June 18 Elias Pettersson for Crouse and the 6th overall. Just don't tell em that it's D Petey. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairGM22 Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 37 minutes ago, RWJC said: Utah Willing To Move Sixth Overall Pick June 17th, 2024 at 6:11pm CST • By Josh Cybulski Utah appears to be willing to move their sixth overall pick in this month’s NHL Entry Draft (as per David Pagnotta of The Fourth Period). The franchise could open up a lot of trade options if the reports are true and it would be a departure for general manager Bill Armstrong as he spent the past few seasons accumulating draft picks year after year while the team was playing in Arizona. The sixth overall pick would hold a lot of value for Utah and could certainly be part of a package to fetch the team a premium asset. For context, Florida Panthers forward Matthew Tkachuk was drafted by the Calgary Flames sixth overall in the 2016 NHL Entry Draft. The timing to move the pick makes sense, given that Utah is entering a new market and a big trade at the draft would create a buzz around the team. They also don’t have to contend with any pending cap crunch as the team is slated to have $43.5MM in cap space (as per CapFriendly) heading into the summer. Utah also has a deep prospect cupboard and has a ton of draft picks available heading into the next few years. The team has just one first-round pick this year, however, they have 13 picks in this year’s draft including three second-round picks and three third-round picks. The team also holds ten picks in next year’s draft, including four second-round picks. There is no indication as to what Armstrong might do with the pick, and he is a general manager who will go off the board at times and create a surprise. He mentioned a few weeks ago that he wasn’t “in the market for buying 33-year-olds but was looking at 23-year-old players.” If that pattern holds, it’s conceivable to think that Utah could target a younger established NHL player with the sixth overall pick. Some of the players who might be available to draft with the sixth overall pick this year (as per Sportsnet’s draft rankings) could be forward Tij Iginla of the Kelowna Rockets (WHL), defenseman Anton Silayev of the KHL, and defenseman Zayne Parekh, of the Saginaw Spirit (OHL). It is not common to see teams move top-5 draft picks; however, the 6-10 picks have been traded with a lot more frequency. In 2012 the Pittsburgh Penguins dealt Jordan Staal to the Pittsburgh Penguins for Brian Dumoulin, Brandon Sutter and the eighth overall pick which they used to select Derrick Pouliot. In 2017, the New York Rangers sent Derek Stepan and Antti Raanta to Arizona for Tony DeAngelo and the seventh overall which they used to pick Lias Andersson. Finally, just two years ago the Ottawa Senators sent the seventh overall pick in 2022, along with a second and fourth round to Chicago for Alex DeBrincat. https://www.prohockeyrumors.com/2024/06/utah-willing-to-move-sixth-overall-pick.html#ref=home Curious what they are looking for it seems a number of teams are willing to move their picks to speed their development. It seems teams are tired of getting high picks and know they have to start winning now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 It depends on where a team is at in it's development curve. Does Utah have core players drafted? Maybe they want to add a good young player at the same age. As a player ages and develops from 17/18 to 21 or older, the risk associated with development lessens. It's actually a smart move to lower your risk of drafting a player high who ends up being bottom 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 9 minutes ago, ArmchairGM22 said: Curious what they are looking for it seems a number of teams are willing to move their picks to speed their development. It seems teams are tired of getting high picks and know they have to start winning now. Probably upper tier pieces, top line/top six forwards, top pairing/top 4 D, maybe a stud starter. Utah's in a unique position where they could actually be quite competitive sooner than later if ownership is actually willing to spend to the cap. The Coyotes brand was always hamstrung by ownership who'd pinch pennies and cap space. Utah's got a whack of assets, a higher end prospect pool, and a bushel full of picks, if ownership is willing to spend they're arguably an organization who could afford to overpay to get the guys they want too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairGM22 Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 1 minute ago, Coconuts said: Probably upper tier pieces, top line/top six forwards, top pairing/top 4 D, maybe a stud starter. Utah's in a unique position where they could actually be quite competitive sooner than later if ownership is actually willing to spend to the cap. The Coyotes brand was always hamstrung by ownership who'd pinch pennies and cap space. Utah's got a whack of assets, a higher end prospect pool, and a bushel full of picks, if ownership is willing to spend they're arguably an organization who could afford to overpay to get the guys they want too. Hronek! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 26 minutes ago, stawns said: It's hronek, not the rights to hronek. He's not a ufa it's restricted free agent negotiating rights. he's not under contract. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickenspear Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 24 minutes ago, Coconuts said: Hronek and a 3rd to Utah for the 6OA, extension worked out beforehand Draft Iginla and piss off Calgary Profit Please let this happen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickenspear Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 24 minutes ago, ArmchairGM22 said: Curious what they are looking for it seems a number of teams are willing to move their picks to speed their development. It seems teams are tired of getting high picks and know they have to start winning now. I'm gonna say defence. Shea Weber is the only one under contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 16 minutes ago, tas said: it's restricted free agent negotiating rights. he's not under contract. He is under full control of the team he plays for. It's not like you've got two weeks to sign him before he's free to go where he wants. You'd be trading for the player, not the right to negotiate before anyone else does. Huge difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 4 minutes ago, stawns said: He is under full control of the team he plays for. It's not like you've got two weeks to sign him before he's free to go where he wants. You'd be trading for the player, not the right to negotiate before anyone else does. Huge difference unless he holds out for a different team or more money or signs in europe. yes, you obviously have more control than a ufa's rights, but you still have to get him under contract, and the trade is still for the rights. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 44 minutes ago, Coconuts said: Hronek and a 3rd to Utah for the 6OA, extension worked out beforehand Draft Iginla and piss off Calgary Profit Lol well, depending how highly they want him, dangle the pick and trade it for the low low price of Calgary's pick and Andersson. Your move, Cowtown. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammertime Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 Sounds to me like GM's with picks in the 5-10 range scouting departments have a lot of guys close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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