Coconuts Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 (edited) Edited June 29 by Coconuts 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairGM22 Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 1 minute ago, Coconuts said: Wow! down year on a crap Buffalo team. I haven’t watched him much, so don’t know if at 32 it’s the start or a trend, but could be a nice cheap top 6 winger option! Anyone know if he’s lost his wheels? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted June 18 Author Share Posted June 18 24 goals and 22 assists this season, respectable but not quite what you want from a 9M player. 35 goals and 47 assists the season before, 33 and 30 the season before that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted June 18 Author Share Posted June 18 (edited) 5 minutes ago, ArmchairGM22 said: Wow! down year on a crap Buffalo team. I haven’t watched him much, so don’t know if at 32 it’s the start or a trend, but could be a nice cheap top 6 winger option! Anyone know if he’s lost his wheels? Not sure about the wheels, but he's still producing, just not at a 9M cap hit level. A buyout would break down like this for the Buffalo. 1.4M 4.4M 6.4M 2.4M 2.4M 2.4M If the cap jumps the way it's supposed to that 6.4M could be the only year that realllly hurts, 4/6 years are quite manageable. It really depends on how Buffalo wants to drive that team forward, assuming they're viewing his cap space as wasted cap space. If he could be had via UFA on a shorter-term, lower money deal he'd likely garner quite a bit of interest. Edited June 18 by Coconuts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHLer Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 OEL vibes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrammaInTheTub Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 5 minutes ago, Coconuts said: Not sure about the wheels, but he's still producing, just not at a 9M cap hit level. A buyout would break down like this for the Buffalo. 1.4M 4.4M 6.4M 2.4M 2.4M 2.4M If the cap jumps the way it's supposed to that 6.4M could be the only year that realllly hurts, 4/6 years are quite manageable. It really depends on how Buffalo wants to drive that team forward, assuming they're viewing his cap space as wasted cap space. If he could be had via UFA on a shorter-term, lower money deal he'd likely garner quite a bit of interest. I could definitely see him signing a team friendly deal with a contender (could be us) given his buy-out money - similar fashion as OEL (sorry to bring him up) and Duchene. Didn’t watch much Buffalo hockey last year but his dip in production seems to track with the rest of his teammates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted June 18 Author Share Posted June 18 2 minutes ago, GrammaInTheTub said: I could definitely see him signing a team friendly deal with a contender (could be us) given his buy-out money - similar fashion as OEL (sorry to bring him up) and Duchene. Didn’t watch much Buffalo hockey last year but his dip in production seems to track with the rest of his teammates He'd probably take less for a top end team too, Skinner was the first player to hit 1k regular season games without making the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DeNiro Posted June 18 Popular Post Share Posted June 18 Perfect buy low candidate. Doubt he would have much interest coming here though. Interesting to note that Rutherford did draft him. Maybe that relationship could benefit? 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairGM22 Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 6 minutes ago, NHLer said: OEL vibes. Short term deal. 2 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairGM22 Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 3 minutes ago, Coconuts said: He'd probably take less for a top end team too, Skinner was the first player to hit 1k regular season games without making the playoffs. Ya dude would want to see some playoffs for sure now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 2 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Perfect buy low candidate. Doubt he would have much interest coming here though. Interesting to note that Rutherford did draft him. Maybe that relationship could benefit? This is the kinda guy you pickup for cheap. $4M to $5M for Skinner could pay off big time if he clicks with Miller or Petey. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 Just now, HKSR said: This is the kinda guy you pickup for cheap. $4M to $5M for Skinner could pay off big time if he clicks with Miller or Petey. Id be all for it. Low cost/term risk with a big reward potential. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 1 minute ago, HKSR said: This is the kinda guy you pickup for cheap. $4M to $5M for Skinner could pay off big time if he clicks with Miller or Petey. Funny you could probably get Skinner at the same cost as Joshua. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 Just now, DeNiro said: Funny you could probably get Skinner at the same cost as Joshua. Yeah I'd be really surprised to see PA/JR bring Joshua back at such a high cap hit. Those $4M to $5M cap hits are best utilized on players like Skinner that kinda shake out as bargain deals with lots of upside. $4M on Joshua would be hoping he plays up to his ceiling. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 It was a crazy stupid deal when they signed it. $9M for a small, soft often injured winger. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 13 minutes ago, HKSR said: This is the kinda guy you pickup for cheap. $4M to $5M for Skinner could pay off big time if he clicks with Miller or Petey. He is soft as butter and only plays in one direction. He barely outscored Joshua last year. This is not a Tocchet player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 12 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Id be all for it. Low cost/term risk with a big reward potential. It's too bad he's got three years left, buffalo would be a good target for leveraging cap space against 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairGM22 Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 9 minutes ago, HKSR said: Yeah I'd be really surprised to see PA/JR bring Joshua back at such a high cap hit. Those $4M to $5M cap hits are best utilized on players like Skinner that kinda shake out as bargain deals with lots of upside. $4M on Joshua would be hoping he plays up to his ceiling. Definitely shows being patient here can work out for the Canucks As more teams will start buying players out some pretty good ones could shake free Barclay Goodrow just got put on waivers. He’s no Joshua replacement but he put up 8 pts in 6 playoff games and is big and gritty Joshua may have to realize he’s not getting what he thinks he is. He’s better to take 3 and term with us than risk teams finding cheaper and better alternatives that may come free due to cap issues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted June 18 Author Share Posted June 18 15 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Perfect buy low candidate. Doubt he would have much interest coming here though. Interesting to note that Rutherford did draft him. Maybe that relationship could benefit? Agreed. 13 minutes ago, HKSR said: This is the kinda guy you pickup for cheap. $4M to $5M for Skinner could pay off big time if he clicks with Miller or Petey. He'd be interesting with either Miller or Pettersson. Just now, DrJockitch said: It was a crazy stupid deal when they signed it. $9M for a small, soft often injured winger. Games played the past three seasons have been 80, 79, and 74. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 (edited) 1 Year $3 Million contract. He gets his stats padded and playoffs, then goes on to sign his last decent contract. Edited June 18 by c00kies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 1 minute ago, c00kies said: 1 Year $3 Million contract. He gets his stats padded and playoffs, then goes on to sign his last decent contract. He could be our Matt Duchene. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 11 minutes ago, ArmchairGM22 said: Definitely shows being patient here can work out for the Canucks As more teams will start buying players out some pretty good ones could shake free Barclay Goodrow just got put on waivers. He’s no Joshua replacement but he put up 8 pts in 6 playoff games and is big and gritty Joshua may have to realize he’s not getting what he thinks he is. He’s better to take 3 and term with us than risk teams finding cheaper and better alternatives that may come free due to cap issues With their cap space, they could target one of these potential buyouts and maybe get a deal where they fill holes for now and get some pieces fir the near future as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 47 minutes ago, Coconuts said: Not sure about the wheels, but he's still producing, just not at a 9M cap hit level. A buyout would break down like this for the Buffalo. 1.4M 4.4M 6.4M 2.4M 2.4M 2.4M If the cap jumps the way it's supposed to that 6.4M could be the only year that realllly hurts, 4/6 years are quite manageable. It really depends on how Buffalo wants to drive that team forward, assuming they're viewing his cap space as wasted cap space. If he could be had via UFA on a shorter-term, lower money deal he'd likely garner quite a bit of interest. Why does the buyouts work that way? You'd think it would be a similar cap hit all the way through? Is it an issue with bonuses are lumped together or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted June 18 Author Share Posted June 18 Just now, Ghostsof1915 said: Why does the buyouts work that way? You'd think it would be a similar cap hit all the way through? Is it an issue with bonuses are lumped together or something? You'd be better off asking @HKSR because I hate numbers and he plays with them as a job 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 They should definitely do this. Skinner stinks. And they should dumperoo Dahlin. He stinks too. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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