Popular Post spook007 Posted June 18 Popular Post Share Posted June 18 1 hour ago, MikeBossy said: I think this contract will age very well This is it. In 4-5 years it will look like a good contract for a top pairing defenceman. In 2-3 years, when Willander might be able to play top pairing or at least top 4 pairing, we will be set on the RHD for years. Very satisfied. close to $7M was my hope and wish. Again this management pull it out of the hat. What a change from the JB years. The front office are earning their keep. 5 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarbularyBattery Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 3 minutes ago, bh90 said: i'd rather invest in high-end talent and dumpster dive for cheap effective 3rd and 4th lines throughout the season than have an average line up from top to bottom. thats not the choice though Zadorov has been a 3rd pair defenseman for most of his career, and people here want to pay him like a #3 defenseman, and give him a big overpayment for a great playoff run. I think thats silly. You can put in a guy like Dillon whose unlikely to cost more than 3m/year, who also has been reliably playing top-4 minutes and is mean and nasty like Zadorov. That leaves you with money to put someone really good in the 3C spot, so we have our depth sorted. The top heavy teams (2 good lines, cheapo bottom 2 lines) dont make it very far, and get beat to shit by teams like Florida that have great players all through their top 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimito Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 PA on radio now 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 1 minute ago, HKSR said: Yeah, I think that is the structure PA/JR are building. A top pair, and 2 pairs that play around the same minutes. Im curious if when everything is said and done if juulsen will be 6 or 7 on the depth chart 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bh90 Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 if PA is doing a press conference today than chances are there won't be any more imminent news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 1 hour ago, MikeBossy said: I think this contract will age very well It should for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 Just now, R3aL said: Im curious if when everything is said and done if juulsen will be 6 or 7 on the depth chart I think ideally 7th. Means we have depth. I trust Gonchar and Foote on who they think is ready for more minutes though. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenalian Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 1 hour ago, PeteyBoeser said: I wanted big Z more I don’t think they’re mutually exclusive. Still think Z signs here too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bh90 Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 1 minute ago, HarbularyBattery said: thats not the choice though Zadorov has been a 3rd pair defenseman for most of his career, and people here want to pay him like a #3 defenseman, and give him a big overpayment for a great playoff run. I think thats silly. You can put in a guy like Dillon whose unlikely to cost more than 3m/year, who also has been reliably playing top-4 minutes and is mean and nasty like Zadorov. That leaves you with money to put someone really good in the 3C spot, so we have our depth sorted. The top heavy teams (2 good lines, cheapo bottom 2 lines) dont make it very far, and get beat to shit by teams like Florida that have great players all through their top 9 i think the arguement posters are making here though is that they envision big Z being able to sustain his playoff play regularly and become a #3 or #3B defenseman. i don't think anyone is arguing that he's been a #3 historically but, that he can continue to elevate his game especially with this coaching group. i think that's a fair arguement and if PA/JR feel Zadorov can be a staple on the back-end than i'll support it. But i feel confident PA/JR won't give him 5M+ if they see him as a #4-5 D 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wing Posted June 18 Popular Post Share Posted June 18 I know someone pointed this out already, but I just have to say again Frank Seravalli GUARANTEED the AVV starts with a 8. What a moron. This is a long contract, but being able to keep it just a bit above 7M AVV for a player this age. I hope they can also resign Zadorov to a reasonable contract. That would be a big win. 6 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimito Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 2 minutes ago, bh90 said: if PA is doing a press conference today than chances are there won't be any more imminent news The cup will be presented tonight. He's not going to try to up stage that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimito Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 Just now, Wing said: I know someone pointed this out already, but I just have to say again Frank Seravalli GUARANTEED the AVV starts with a 8. What a moron. This is a long contract, but being able to keep it just a bit above 7M AVV for a player this age. I hope they can also resign Zadorov to a reasonable contract. That would be a big win. He was partially right. 8 years JPat again asking PA about Hronek injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LunarPoetry Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 Jeff Patterson remains a nasty slug, he just can't help himself. Have to get those clicks 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 1 hour ago, Coconuts said: One less thing to argue about, tragic We'll find something though, I believe in us No we won't 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Devron Posted June 18 Popular Post Share Posted June 18 1 hour ago, Conscience said: Too much, is he a 3rd or 4th dmen not sure but not worth #2 money for sure 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chon derry Posted June 18 Popular Post Share Posted June 18 10 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: We won’t. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baratheon Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 1 minute ago, HKSR said: I think ideally 7th. Means we have depth. I trust Gonchar and Foote on who they think is ready for more minutes though. I say they’ll prioritize a top six winger. (JG seems like the target) Then as the dust settles we will sign some depth D for internal competition. That would put Juulsen in a position to earn the 6th spot or remain in 7th if he’s still not ready for it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 1 minute ago, MeanSeanBean said: No we won't Yes we will! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarbularyBattery Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 2 minutes ago, bh90 said: i think the arguement posters are making here though is that they envision big Z being able to sustain his playoff play regularly and become a #3 or #3B defenseman. i don't think anyone is arguing that he's been a #3 historically but, that he can continue to elevate his game especially with this coaching group. i think that's a fair arguement and if PA/JR feel Zadorov can be a staple on the back-end than i'll support it. But i feel confident PA/JR won't give him 5M+ if they see him as a #4-5 D i dont think its a fair argument at all, we do this literally every time a player goes on a unique run that theyve never been on before. Its extremely rare that it gets sustained. Especially on the offensive side - look at the goals Zadorov scored, most of them were terrible angle shots that the goalie should have had. More often than not, players regress to the average of what they've been over a number of years, rarely do they sustain what they did for 2 months. We made this gamble on Mikheyev as just the latest example. I loved watching big Z in the playoffs, but personally, id rather give the 2m in savings to get a Lindholm-Lite 3C who can give us that strength down the middle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarbularyBattery Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 1 minute ago, MeanSeanBean said: No we won't yes we will, you and i are now in a fight, prepare yourself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 32 minutes ago, Snoop Hogg said: 8 more years of stellar first halves of seasons and declining production and play down the stretch. If it means we keep getting a chance at the cup I'm all for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 1 hour ago, Conscience said: Too much, is he a 3rd or 4th dmen not sure but not worth #2 money for sure Since when? He's been top line since he came? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 I like it. I honestly think he'd produce better away from Huggy. Huggy can get the other team's tougher defenders. Opening Hronek to feed on the secondary defenders. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK-19 Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 Good AAV and length considering his age. I hate NMCs being given to a non-core player and the NTC period is way too many teams. The contract is effectively buyout proof which gives me Louie Eriksson PTSD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bh90 Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 7 minutes ago, HarbularyBattery said: i dont think its a fair argument at all, we do this literally every time a player goes on a unique run that theyve never been on before. Its extremely rare that it gets sustained. Especially on the offensive side - look at the goals Zadorov scored, most of them were terrible angle shots that the goalie should have had. More often than not, players regress to the average of what they've been over a number of years, rarely do they sustain what they did for 2 months. We made this gamble on Mikheyev as just the latest example. I loved watching big Z in the playoffs, but personally, id rather give the 2m in savings to get a Lindholm-Lite 3C who can give us that strength down the middle. and that's a fair arguement guess only time will tell who was right or wrong i'm of the camp that 5M'ish for Zadorov is a good deal. Cap is going up and i think he brings a lot to the dressing room 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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