stawns Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 10 minutes ago, Coconuts said: I think they could be, but they'd have to beat out one of Vancouver, Edmonton, LA, and Vegas, all of which I could see making the playoffs I am expecting some regression for us though I think the Oilers will have another strong year and end up on top and Vancouver and LA fighting for #2-3 and Calgary and Vegas fighting for a #4-5. That said, I think it's going to be so close, spots 2-5 could be easily interchangeable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenalian Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 1 hour ago, Coconuts said: I don't mind Calgary tbh, even when they were good they weren't nearly as obnoxious as Edmonton and their fans. Agree. Hated rivals, but I can have respect for them, as we all hate on the Coil. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 13 minutes ago, Coconuts said: I think they could be, but they'd have to beat out one of Vancouver, Edmonton, LA, and Vegas, all of which I could see making the playoffs I am expecting some regression for us though They're in the stage we've been in for the last 3 years before this season, everything has to line up perfect for them to be a wild card team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Provost said: Well you might not understand the difference, but effectively everyone else does including the NHL who are actively looking at it. The intent of LTIR was to give cap relief for injured players. It was not to stash cap hits away until the playoffs to gain a competitive advantage. The NHL specifically has clauses that allow them to address cap circumvention, this is one of those instances. well maybe you don’t understand the similarities. Stashing cap hits for a competitive advantage is exactly what salary retention is. It is just done out in the open and is more pervasive as it can be through the season and playoffs. Edited June 19 by DrJockitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 9 minutes ago, stawns said: I think the Oilers will have another strong year and end up on top and Vancouver and LA fighting for #2-3 and Calgary and Vegas fighting for a #4-5. That said, I think it's going to be so close, spots 2-5 could be easily interchangeable Wouldn't surprise me, but any divisional spot is nothing to sniff at imo Go back a couple years and folks around here would have been thrilled with a wildcard spot 7 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: They're in the stage we've been in for the last 3 years before this season, everything has to line up perfect for them to be a wild card team Probably, which is why I'm not really expecting it, they'll probably need one of the teams ahead of them to start declining as they begin to rise It'll probably end up being Vegas Though they'll likely have to compete with Anaheim for that opening, I do believe they'll be a wagon at some point 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimito Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 Flames going down in flames. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 1 hour ago, HKSR said: Could be a quick turnaround if they sign a couple good UFAs (ie. Stephenson and DeMelo) Top 9: Huberdeau-Kadri-Kuzmenko Pospisil-Stephenson-Zary Mangiapane-Backlund-Sharangovich Top 4: Weegar-Anderson Kylington-DeMelo Could very well be. They're poised to stay competitive with things looking good draft wise. Interesting to think about given where were are now and our window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigsaw Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 2 hours ago, Don Brodka Jr said: More on the high side of things but.. Not far off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 (edited) 1 hour ago, arsenalian said: Agree. Hated rivals, but I can have respect for them, as we all hate on the Coil. I like the Flames a lot more than the Oil, nicer fans in my experience too. went to 2 flames games in Calgary and 2 Oilers games in the last season and a half and one of the Flames games was vs Vancouver and joked around with fans with little digs but overall everyone had a great time. Edmonton was one group of fans to our right that were good mix of Wings and Oil fans, the second game was surrounded by standoffish/stuck up people. Exiting the building that game my buddy and I had to shield a pair of 50/60 year old dudes to keep a drunken Oiler loser from trying to pick a fight because they were blocking the exit doors and the old guys pointed it out. Exiting in Calgary I had a Flames fan ask if my Höglander jersey was a game worn one because of the fight strap and he'd never seen his number 36 before and said it was a cool jersey. I recipricated with his Iginla jersey because who doesn't love Iggy? Edited June 19 by canuck73_3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harvey Specter Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flat land fish Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 Should be a good trade for Calgary but always tough to replace a true number 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coryberg Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 3 hours ago, HKSR said: I think Huberdeau is gonna bounce back. Gotta wonder if the Flames might flip some of those futures assets for guys like Necas? They now absolutely have the cap space and assets to basically go after any player they want. Whether it's help for the current roster (ie. Necas) or help for the near future (ie. David Jiricek)... they have the assets to do it. I think he could become a 80 point player again but his 100+ point seasons days are done. He is also 31 now and his contract will take him to 38 at its expiry. Even if he can regain his form father time is going to drag him down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck You Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 I'm just glad the Laffs didn't get Marky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 2 hours ago, Dr. Crossbar said: Could very well be. They're poised to stay competitive with things looking good draft wise. Interesting to think about given where were are now and our window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 5 minutes ago, Coconuts said: That should put everyone in our division and conference on notice. Makes our current window all the more important. We can't waste talent. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 34 minutes ago, flat land fish said: Should be a good trade for Calgary but always tough to replace a true number 1 dustin wolf has been ready for a couple years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PureQuickness Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 3 hours ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said: From Ottawa? https://www.nhl.com/senators/news/travis-green-named-senators-head-coach Yes. From Ottawa. No, it's my bad. My original comment is worthless and is biased. I don't like Green as a coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flat land fish Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 10 minutes ago, tas said: dustin wolf has been ready for a couple years. Still has to beat the odds as a smaller goalie made more difficult plating for a rebuilding team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 7 minutes ago, flat land fish said: Still has to beat the odds as a smaller goalie made more difficult plating for a rebuilding team certainly. but you gotta give the kid his chance. it's why you developed him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 Poor Markstrom, NJ is where ex Canucks goalies go to die Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 5 hours ago, Roger Neilsons Towel said: I’ll always remember Iginla bringing the whole Flames team back onto the ice to shake Trevor Linden’s hand in his last game. Form is temporary, class is forever... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 1 hour ago, Coconuts said: Seems like a good foundation to start a rebuild from... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 1 minute ago, spook007 said: Seems like a good foundation to start a rebuild from... I wouldn't say they're rebuilding. They've got Huberdeau, Kadri, and Weegar locked into very long term deals. They gotta just build around them. They've got over $23M in cap space to go shopping. They have 12 forwards, 6 defencemen, and 1 goalie under contract. They're likely gonna be big buyers this UFA market. They can afford to with all that draft capital waiting in the wings. Not saying these guys would sign there, but they could literally afford to bring in Guentzel, Pesce, and Stephenson with money leftover. Huberdeau-Kadri-Guentzel Sharangovich-Stephenson-Kuzmenko Coleman-Backlund-Mangiapane Pospisil-Zary-Coronato Weegar-Andersson Kylington-Pesce Bahl-Miromanov Pachal That lineup is a very, very good one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewonder20 Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 6 hours ago, HKSR said: Makes sense. CGY needs cap space to find guys via UFA and at the same time they are bolstering their future. They're doing a retool the right way. Since the Tkachuk trade, the Flames have moved out: Toffoli Lindholm Zadorov Tanev Hanifin Markstrom In return, the Flames got: 1st Round Pick 1st Round Pick 1st Round Pick 2nd Round Pick 3rd Round Pick 3rd Round Pick 3rd Round Pick 3rd Round Pick 4th Round Pick 5th Round Pick Kuzmenko Sharangovich Jurmo Brzustewicz Grushnikov Miromanov Bahl All while maintaining a half decent roster to work with. Let's say they go out and grab a top 6F and a top 4 RHD: Stephenson? DeMelo? Top 9: Huberdeau-Kadri-Kuzmenko Pospisil-Stephenson-Zary Mangiapane-Backlund-Sharangovich Top 4: Weegar-Anderson Kylington-DeMelo All those picks are going to make their prospect pool amazing, although I suspect some will be traded for a very fast re-tool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 Just now, steviewonder20 said: All those picks are going to make their prospect pool amazing, although I suspect some will be traded for a very fast re-tool. They don't even need to unless they see a player they really like. They have 12 F, 6 D, and 1 goalie already signed, and have over $23M in cap space this year. They could easily retool through the UFA market and still have a bunch of young ELCs come into the fray in a few years as they develop. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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