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Senators Notes: Hamonic, Brannstrom, Bernard-Docker

 

June 23rd, 2024 at 8:16pm CST • By Josh Cybulski

 

Bruce Garrioch of Postmedia is reporting that the Ottawa Senators are likely to buy out veteran defenseman Travis Hamonic when the buyout window opens after the Stanley Cup is awarded. The 33-year-old was brought back last summer by former Senators general manager Pierre Dorion and was largely a disaster registering just six points in 48 games.

 

On top of his poor offensive output, Hamonic was a liability on the ice, posting dreadful possession numbers with a CF% of 43.2% and an xGF% of 41.5%. The Senators don’t have many effective right-shot defensemen but can ill-afford to roll Hamonic back out next season for nearly 15 minutes per game. Hamonic is owed $1.1MM next year meaning a buyout would cost Ottawa $366,667 in each of the next two seasons. Ottawa would save $733,333 next year which would certainly help as they look to address their goaltending.

 

In other Ottawa Senators notes:

 

Garrioch also reported that Ottawa is trying to move Erik Brannstrom prior to the deadline for issuing a qualifying offer. The 24-year-old was a central piece of the Mark Stone trade and has never lived up to the billing of being a 15th overall pick. Brannstrom is owed a $2MM qualifying offer if the Senators want to retain his rights, otherwise, he will become an unrestricted free agent. The Eksjö, Sweden native posted three goals and 17 assists in 76 games last year, which were all career-highs, however, despite the improved numbers it’s hard to imagine that teams are lining up to give up an asset to take on that cap hit.

 

The Senators are also reportedly trying to trade right-shot defenseman Jacob Bernard-Docker (as per Bruce Garrioch).  The Canmore, Alberta native is also a former first-round pick who has failed to live up to expectations. The 23-year-old is no analytics darling as he struggled to an even strength CF% of 47.5% last season but did find career highs in goals with four and assists with 10 as he played in 72 NHL games. Bernard-Docker will carry a cap hit of $805K next season and could be moved for a late-round pick or a lower-end prospect.

 

 

https://www.prohockeyrumors.com/2024/06/senators-notes-hamonic-brannstrom-bernard-docker.html#ref=home

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Docker was on waiver last season.. He's a nothing player. 1st Rd Bust for sure.

Brannstrom I'd maybe be interested in.. but not at $2M AAV.

Why the fuck did Ottawa even re-sign Hamonic? He was already broken.

He was never the same player after Gudbranson broke his jaw in a fight..

A fight I'm sure Hamonic wishes he never participated in, given the fact he was defending a sexual predator in Dillon Dube.

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23 minutes ago, HKSR said:

Mark Stone trade is the perfect example of how trading an elite talent for a bunch of magic beans can crater your chances of moving your franchise forward.  Re-sign the elite talent that you know works for your team and find bargain deals lower in your lineup.  

Vegas traded for both Stone and Eichel. Signed Pietrangelo as a UFA. The clubs they got those great players from all took steps backwards. You’re 100% correct. Keep our elite talent. Reload around them each summer. 
These three two younger guys are AHL level players. Harmonic should retire. He’s cooked. 

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31 minutes ago, Alflives said:

Vegas traded for both Stone and Eichel. Signed Pietrangelo as a UFA. The clubs they got those great players from all took steps backwards. You’re 100% correct. Keep our elite talent. Reload around them each summer. 
These three two younger guys are AHL level players. Harmonic should retire. He’s cooked. 

 

Miller, Petey, Hughes, Demko... Guentzel? 

 

We can probably get away with only adding in one more top line winger if we can get some true grinders in our bottom 6, guys that can wear down other teams over 7 games. Thats one of the reasons I'd like to see Garly and Mik's salary moved and see Rick get to build out the bottom 6 the way he'd like to. 

 

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Hamonic at $1.1M? I was going to say just bury him in the minors but then realized he has a NMC. But it's not like buying him out saves them any cap space. Ottawa would still need a replacement 7/8 on their roster at league minimum and $750,000 (league min) + $366,667 (cap penalty) = $1.17M. So unless they feel they can get an improvement for league minimum a buyout doesn't actually make any sense.

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2 hours ago, Bob Long said:

 

Miller, Petey, Hughes, Demko... Guentzel? 

 

We can probably get away with only adding in one more top line winger if we can get some true grinders in our bottom 6, guys that can wear down other teams over 7 games. Thats one of the reasons I'd like to see Garly and Mik's salary moved and see Rick get to build out the bottom 6 the way he'd like to. 

 

And with our elite core those “grinder” types will be looking to come here on a one year deal to build value for their next contract. What DJ did this year to build his value will help us sign other players looking to do the same. And the guys in this thread will not be ones PA will see as in that kind of group. 

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18 minutes ago, Diamonds said:

Hamonic at $1.1M? I was going to say just bury him in the minors but then realized he has a NMC. But it's not like buying him out saves them any cap space. Ottawa would still need a replacement 7/8 on their roster at league minimum and $750,000 (league min) + $366,667 (cap penalty) = $1.17M. So unless they feel they can get an improvement for league minimum a buyout doesn't actually make any sense.

It does if the league min player they bring in plays better than Hamonic I suppose - but as a cost savings measure you make a very good point 

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29 minutes ago, Alflives said:

And with our elite core those “grinder” types will be looking to come here on a one year deal to build value for their next contract. What DJ did this year to build his value will help us sign other players looking to do the same. And the guys in this thread will not be ones PA will see as in that kind of group. 

 

yep for a guy looking to prove future value, its a dream if he's a Tocc type player. 

 

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4 hours ago, HKSR said:

Mark Stone trade is the perfect example of how trading an elite talent for a bunch of magic beans can crater your chances of moving your franchise forward.  Re-sign the elite talent that you know works for your team and find bargain deals lower in your lineup.  

Then Montreal trades Paccioretty for Suzuki and the magic beans grow! At the time I was surprised that Ottawa didn’t ask for Suzuki in the Stone deal! Brannstrom was a small left handed dman in draft pick capital Suzuki was the better prospect at the time of that trade!

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2 hours ago, HKSR said:

At the time, Brannstrom was considered the league's best prospect currently not playing in the NHL.  In other words, an absolutely 'can't miss' prospect. 

To be fair, they mistook him for Fabian Brunnstrom.

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They are also apparently considering buyouts for Anderson and Gallagher.  
 

They are in the bad spot we were in with cap issues and being bad at the same time.

 

Anderson could actually be a good stylistic fit here in a Tocchet style.  If he gets bought out or they want to retain a good portion of his contract, he is a top six upgrade and decent reclamation project.

 

The buyouts, retentions, and deals on UFA guys who have been bought out could furnish some value.

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43 minutes ago, Provost said:

They are also apparently considering buyouts for Anderson and Gallagher.  
 

They are in the bad spot we were in with cap issues and being bad at the same time.

 

Anderson could actually be a good stylistic fit here in a Tocchet style.  If he gets bought out or they want to retain a good portion of his contract, he is a top six upgrade and decent reclamation project.

 

The buyouts, retentions, and deals on UFA guys who have been bought out could furnish some value.

 

Anderson 😬

 

it would have to be a really low risk deal. 

 

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27 minutes ago, Bob Long said:

 

Anderson 😬

 

it would have to be a really low risk deal. 

 

 

At $1.1m or less (waiver cap threshold), I'd take a flyer on him. Worst case you waive him to Abby and his cap is a complete non issue.

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1 hour ago, Bob Long said:

 

Anderson 😬

 

it would have to be a really low risk deal. 

 


… we have had Lafferty and Mikheyev in our top six.  Anderson is definitely an upgrade.  Plays a simple North/South game and have him do the puck retrievals for Petterson.

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