Grandmaster Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 3 hours ago, Heretic said: Ever since Luongo's contract - I loathe retaining any salary. I had to look that up and you’re right. The worst part of all that was Gillis played by the rules in the Luongo contract and we later got further slapped with a Cap circumvention penalty for 3 or 4 years. Still burns me up today when I think about it. Did Bettman approve that contract and warn Gillis this was coming down the pipe later if Lui retired before the contract ended? The whole thing was so malicious after it happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandmaster Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 8 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Wow, what an ass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekker Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 9 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Weird. I know the Bedard factor but both teams suck. I'd rather live in SanJose than Chicago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Rekker said: Weird. I know the Bedard factor but both teams suck. I'd rather live in SanJose than Chicago. Sunnier and far less crime and fecal matter on the sidewalk. Edited June 27 by PhillipBlunt 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijjibo Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 4 minutes ago, Grandmaster said: I had to look that up and you’re right. The worst part of all that was Gillis played by the rules in the Luongo contract and we later got further slapped with a Cap circumvention penalty for 3 or 4 years. Still burns me up today when I think about it. Did Bettman approve that contract and warn Gillis this was coming down the pipe later if Lui retired before the contract ended? The whole thing was so malicious after it happened. All teams were warned in advance not to break the spirit of the CBA by making use of the loophole. The penalty wasn't a surprise to Vancouver, they, and a handful of other teams chose to ignore the warning and take a run at the cup. It almost worked out 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 2 minutes ago, Rekker said: Weird. I know the Bedard factor but both teams suck. I'd rather live in SanJose than Chicago. the only thing the bay area has in its favour is weather, everything else is better in chicago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekker Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 1 minute ago, qwijjibo said: All teams were warned in advance not to break the spirit of the CBA by making use of the loophole. The penalty wasn't a surprise to Vancouver, they, and a handful of other teams chose to ignore the warning and take a run at the cup. It almost worked out Then why was the contract approved? Once approved, it's ridiculous to punish a team based on new rules after the fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 1 minute ago, tas said: the only thing the bay area has in its favour is weather, everything else is better in chicago. More murders, more cold weather, more traffic, more people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 8 minutes ago, Grandmaster said: Wow, what an ass he's an ass for exercising the right he negotiated in his contract to have a say in where he's traded? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekker Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 1 minute ago, tas said: the only thing the bay area has in its favour is weather, everything else is better in chicago. Meh, depends what you like. Been to both and Cali, wineries, sunshine, no winter trump anything Chicago has to offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarbularyBattery Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 2 minutes ago, tas said: the only thing the bay area has in its favour is weather, everything else is better in chicago. yea if i was him id 100% want to go to chicago, not san jose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekker Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 (edited) Just now, tas said: he's an ass for exercising the right he negotiated in his contract to have a say in where he's traded? Considering his one goal in 60 games, yes. Edited June 27 by Rekker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijjibo Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 3 minutes ago, Rekker said: Then why was the contract approved? Once approved, it's ridiculous to punish a team based on new rules after the fact. It was technically legal but teams were warned that it would be addressed in the new cba and there would be penalties for breaking the spirit of the cba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 1 minute ago, Rekker said: Then why was the contract approved? Once approved, it's ridiculous to punish a team based on new rules after the fact. teams had been warned against using the loophole, but the league couldn't just up and close it. those rule changes have to be collectively bargained. in the 2013 CBA, the players and owners collectively agreed to the luongo rule, including it applying retroactively. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 6 minutes ago, Rekker said: Meh, depends what you like. Been to both and Cali, wineries, sunshine, no winter trump anything Chicago has to offer. san jose is a lot more silicon valley than it is napa valley. chicago is a world class city. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz-Pix Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 6 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: More murders, more cold weather, more traffic, more people. Perhaps playing for an original 6 team in a hockey market appealed to him more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 Just now, Blitz-Pix said: Perhaps playing for an original 6 team in a hockey market appealed to him more. I'm thinking that their recently drafted superstar has more to do with it. Not a whole lot to work with in SJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 9 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: More murders, more cold weather, more traffic, more people. the first thing and the third thing come by default with the fourth thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekker Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 2 minutes ago, tas said: san jose is a lot more silicon valley than it is napa valley. chicago is a world class city. Napa Valley is a hell of a lot closer to San Jose than Chicago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 9 minutes ago, Rekker said: Considering his one goal in 60 games, yes. not at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 15 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: Sunnie and far less crime and fecal matter on the sidewalk. Isn't there bylaws for such things? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 1 minute ago, tas said: the first thing and the third thing come by default with the fourth thing. Doesn't negate the fact that it exists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekker Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 4 minutes ago, tas said: chicago is a world class city. Windy City. Nice nick name. Golden State vs Windy City says it all for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 1 minute ago, Rekker said: Napa Valley is a hell of a lot closer to San Jose than Chicago. so? how does being closer to a vacation spot benefit a hockey player during the hockey season? chicago has better food, entertainment, nightlife, culture, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 1 minute ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Isn't there bylaws for such things? Bylaws only work when their consistently enforced. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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