Popular Post German Canuck Posted June 27 Popular Post Share Posted June 27 Some people complaining about 700k and a 2nd round pick 2027. Pathetic 4 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 2 minutes ago, Rocket-68 said: Me thinks you protesteth too much .... must be a closet JR fan complete with a poster of him on your wall. No. Heffy want's the team run his way. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 Just now, German Canuck said: Some people complaining about 700k and a 2nd round pick 2027. Pathetic You'd think it was 15% of the teams salary or something. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimito Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DisgruntledNucksFan Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 Enjoy Chicago Ilya . Other Canucks will be joining your there soon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 (edited) I don’t love the retention, but we don’t look like we will have other players to use that retention on, so the retention limit isn’t likely to come into play. It looks like we will be signing 3-4 UFAs to fairly long term deals, that limits the roster spots for prospects anyways so, the lack of picks might not hurt as badly as otherwise. Our window is really going to depend on whether Lekkerimaki, Willander, and D Petey end up being top half of the lineup players. We quite badly need to replace an expensive veteran with an ELC contract each of 2025, 2026, and 2027 to offset raises to Boeser and Hughes and to accomodate the dead cap. Lekkerimki replaces Suter in 2025 D Petey replaces Soucy in 2026 Willander replaces whatever band-aid top four D we sign to partner with Zadorov in 2027 If those all actually work out we could be in fine cap shape and have a reloaded prospect cupboard. If they don’t work out (or some dark horse prospect doesn’t come forward), then it is going to be a bunch more seasons of cap gyrations like this just to tread water. Edited June 27 by Provost 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 Just now, German Canuck said: Some people complaining about 700k and a 2nd round pick 2027. Pathetic Yup. 109 point division champ season. A healthy Demko from at least the Conference Final. And some complain. These folk will complain about our Cup celebration parade route June 2025. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 (edited) 4 minutes ago, DisgruntledNucksFan said: Enjoy Chicago Ilya . Other Canucks will be joining your there soon At least he can enjoy Famous Dave's Ribs. Nom nom nom. OMG they have a Famous Dave's in Tukwila! ROAD TRIP! RIBBBBBBBS! Edited June 27 by Ghostsof1915 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott72 Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 9 minutes ago, King Heffy said: I've said this very consistently over Gillis, Benning, and now these clowns. I don't care which management group suggests dead cap; there is no situation where they should continue working in hockey ops after that suggestion. 5 minutes ago, King Heffy said: Or give up more to not have the dead cap. So you value giving up better prospect over 700k cap space? Oh man this puts my faith in this current Canucks management even more now. We are definitely in good hands if throwing away better prospects would be how some folks would run the show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC_Hawk Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 Just now, Ghostsof1915 said: You'd think it was 15% of the teams salary or something. Haha..yep! I bet this is the chip that was required to finalize the Zad deal; PA didn’t want to derail his FA plan on Zad is my guess, nor did he want to be backed into a corner where he NEEDED to move salary prior to season. This trade allows him to resign our wanted FAs and dabble in the FA pool to give us a legit top 6….not a top 4 with plugs at the other 2 spots. love the move! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 11 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapshot said: The Hawks going from our biggest rival to our dumping ground is character development I didn't see coming. Take our droppings, Hawks. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoGuitar Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 But, But , @Alflives told me we were definitely trading Garland instead! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g_bassi13 Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 Would have preferred to give up more to get rid of the whole salary, but I think with this $700,000 they probably have a good idea od the amounts their going to be paying, and why they won't need it to be free. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck You Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 4 minutes ago, DisgruntledNucksFan said: Enjoy Chicago Ilya . Other Canucks will be joining your there soon Say Hi to that French actor ..Jussy Smollet for us Mik! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 If only his recovery and rehab had went better.. We might not be having this condition.. best of wishes in every thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC_Hawk Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 3 minutes ago, Provost said: I don’t love the retention, but we don’t look like we will have other players to use that retention on, so the retention limit isn’t likely to come into play. It looks like we will be signing 3-4 UFAs to fairly long term deals, that limits the roster spots for prospects anyways so, the lack of picks might not hurt as badly as otherwise. Our window is really going to depend on whether Lekkerimaki, Willander, and D Petey end up being top half of the lineup players. We quite badly need to replace an expensive veteran with an ELC contract each of 2025, 2026, and 2027 to offset raises to Boeser and Hughes. Lekkerimki replaces Suter in 2025 D Petey replaces Soucy in 2026 Willander replaces whatever band-aid top four D we sign to partner with Zadorov in 2027 If those all actually work out we could be in fine cap shape and have a reloaded prospect cupboard. If they don’t work out (or some dark horse prospect doesn’t come forward), then it is going to be a bunch more seasons of cap gyrations like this just to tread water. My thoughts exactly! I’ve actually warmed to the idea of trying to grab Matt Roy on a 4/5 yr deal if we can get him <4.5m. That really solidly the D, and create a great 3rd pair vet partner for Petterson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanucksFan26 Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 In theory… if Buffalo is indeed moving Skinner. What if we trade for him at 40-50% retention? At that salary I think we can pull a future 1st from them to dump the cap. We upgrade Mikheyev get draft capital and still have a good chunk to spend… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolboarder Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 2027 2nd rounder is like we might not see that player until 2030 in AHL We still can get back 2nd rounder from any asset we have for teams that covet our player down the road so it will be fine because 2nd rounder is traded away all the time and we rarely get this back so. Chicago will for sure use our 2nd rounder as a trading chip if they become a contender before the 2027 draft comes around. The only thing it will prevent us is an offer sheet to any RFA for that specific year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 1 minute ago, CanucksFan26 said: In theory… if Buffalo is indeed moving Skinner. What if we trade for him at 40-50% retention? At that salary I think we can pull a future 1st from them to dump the cap. We upgrade Mikheyev get draft capital and still have a good chunk to spend… Word is, Skinner is being bought out. Better to wait for that if Skinner is what they want 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PureQuickness Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 (edited) 37 minutes ago, NoHeart said: Trading away draft picks is the equivalent of an energy drink. A temporary energy boost now, with long term side effects. We are planting the seeds for the next Gillis empty cupboard era. It's good that people remember the history. The Gillis empty cupboard era is a shockingly bad period of time that many Canuck fans have willingly chosen to forget. The Gillis period did a lot of good things during that time, yet over the span of years that Gillis was in charge here, he couldn't even grab a significant goaltender or defensemen using a 2nd round pick or lower and that is beyond anything that can be excused. Gillis was a very flawed GM as was Benning. Neither of them are back at the helm for any NHL team for the near future. The JR/Allvin management has yet to reveal how good they are with player development, but it is a promising period that we DO have some exciting players in our pipeline. I'm very high on D Pettersson, for example. He had an outstanding Swedish presence in the WJC. And while that in itself is no guarantee of success, it is still something worth mentioning for now. Gillis, on the other hand, was primarily focused on drafting perceived "NHL ready" players with low ceilings. When those ceilings were missed, you essentially had dud players. Edited June 27 by PureQuickness 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickenspear Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 4 minutes ago, JoGuitar said: But, But , @Alflives told me we were definitely trading Garland instead! Defective empties. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoGuitar Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 Not only do we gain cap space, we also get a collosal black hole out of our lineup. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post erkayloomeh Posted June 27 Popular Post Share Posted June 27 I liked Mik. He still worked hard and was good in his own zone. He wasn't like lazy loui Best of luck with the hawks. 4 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 I dedicate this song to all the salary retention haters..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapshot Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 5 minutes ago, Jaimito said: So just under 21 mill in cap space. Let's say 5.5 for Zadorov, and 9 for Guentzel, that leaves us with about 6.5 for one more RD, a middle 6 winger and a 4 C. Definitely doable, but we'll be up against it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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