EdgarM Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 On 7/3/2024 at 3:51 PM, Bob Long said: Touche. Yea that sucked but sometimes the price is too high. I just have a lot of faith in what Foote can do. I had a lot of faith with what he could have done with Z in the top 4 too, many others on here do not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 Just now, EdgarM said: I had a lot of faith with what he could have done with Z in the top 4 too, many others on here do not. That's something I'd love to ask foote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 22 hours ago, NoCupSyndrome said: I am expecting better positioning from a 34 year old Has that "34 year old" ALWAYS had better positioning? After all,he wasn't called "chaos gireffe" for nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 3 minutes ago, Bob Long said: That's something I'd love to ask foote ......or Boston? How about you ask them too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCupSyndrome Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 1 hour ago, EdgarM said: Has that "34 year old" ALWAYS had better positioning? After all,he wasn't called "chaos gireffe" for nothing. His positioning under Toch and Foote was much better this year and it will improve again next season. Nothing ground breaking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzle Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 2 hours ago, Bob Long said: That's something I'd love to ask foote I think it’s pretty clear how Foote felt… Alvin flat out said they prioritized Myers over Zad. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salacious Crumb Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 8 hours ago, Dizzle said: I think it’s pretty clear how Foote felt… Alvin flat out said they prioritized Myers over Zad. That’s Alvin’s public spin job. Not logical. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzle Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 48 minutes ago, Salacious Crumb said: That’s Alvin’s public spin job. Not logical. That’s one interpretation… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post N4ZZY Posted July 5 Popular Post Share Posted July 5 16 hours ago, EdgarM said: I had a lot of faith with what he could have done with Z in the top 4 too, many others on here do not. Big risk when the Canucks would be paying him what essentially Boston gave him. If he doesn't pan out as a top 4 then what? Team is stuck with a player who's making 5m, over the next 6 years, with all the other cap challenges they have moving forward (OEL, remember him?). This team can't be making those kinds of risks, when they have a limited window to win it all the next few years. 1 2 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 14 hours ago, Dizzle said: I think it’s pretty clear how Foote felt… Alvin flat out said they prioritized Myers over Zad. Really? Wow, that's weird to say. I felt like Myers has had more criticisms laid on him, than Zadorov did. But maybe that's because Zadorov wasn't paid what Myers was, and didn't play in the top four. if he did, then it's very possible he would receive the same kinds of criticisms that Myers received and got. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 14 hours ago, NoCupSyndrome said: Has that "34 year old" ALWAYS had better positioning? After all,he wasn't called "chaos gireffe" for nothing. I think this was before Tocchet, when coaches used to play him against top lines. He just doesn't play well when it comes to other team's best forwards. He's better suited in a second pairing (maybe), and third pairing (definitely). 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 49 minutes ago, N4ZZY said: Big risk when the Canucks would be paying him what essentially Boston gave him. If he doesn't pan out as a top 4 then what? Team is stuck with a player who's making 5m, over the next 6 years, with all the other cap challenges they have moving forward (OEL, remember him?). This team can't be making those kinds of risks, when they have a limited window to win it all the next few years. I guess I just don't see the faults in his game as others do that would say" yeah that guy needs to have his minutes sheltered". I could see him beside Hronek or Hughes and compliment them so that they could do their thing, similar to what Schenn did for Hughes when he was here. He has a lot of NHL experience and if he had any glaring issues, I am sure they would have been exposed by now. He did seem to take a while to get adjusted to our systems and maybe thats what people seen as his weaknesses? I don't know. I didn't see the risk of having a player who plays defense, plays physical and adds a little offense to boot, but like I said, all water under the bridge now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 3 hours ago, N4ZZY said: Big risk when the Canucks would be paying him what essentially Boston gave him. If he doesn't pan out as a top 4 then what? Team is stuck with a player who's making 5m, over the next 6 years, with all the other cap challenges they have moving forward (OEL, remember him?). This team can't be making those kinds of risks, when they have a limited window to win it all the next few years. Just basic common sense but folks fell in love with his physicality combined with his personality. Thankfully this management group thinks with their heads and not their hearts. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 3 hours ago, EdgarM said: I guess I just don't see the faults in his game as others do that would say" yeah that guy needs to have his minutes sheltered". I could see him beside Hronek or Hughes and compliment them so that they could do their thing, similar to what Schenn did for Hughes when he was here. He has a lot of NHL experience and if he had any glaring issues, I am sure they would have been exposed by now. He did seem to take a while to get adjusted to our systems and maybe thats what people seen as his weaknesses? I don't know. I didn't see the risk of having a player who plays defense, plays physical and adds a little offense to boot, but like I said, all water under the bridge now. Yeah, well, I guess Allvin didn't think so. I think there were question marks about his ability to play in a top four, unsheltered minutes. If you're going to be paying a guy 5m or more, you don't want to shelter them. Look at Myers, he essentially crucified here because he was paid 6m per year, and couldn't handle the puck. Handled it like a live grenade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post N4ZZY Posted July 6 Popular Post Share Posted July 6 34 minutes ago, Gawdzukes said: Just basic common sense but folks fell in love with his physicality combined with his personality. Thankfully this management group thinks with their heads and not their hearts. Good management groups think with their heads and not with their hearts, which is why fans don't make good GM's. lol. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 13 minutes ago, N4ZZY said: Good management groups think with their heads and not with their hearts, which is why fans don't make good GM's. lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 On 6/29/2024 at 12:32 PM, NewbieCanuckFan said: Same people are in charge as the ones that got Z for a pretty cheap price from the Flames. No guarantees but nothing in life is a guarantee except being a wingman for Alflives in the nursing home. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckMan Posted July 7 Share Posted July 7 I think we’re going to be fine in the physicality department. Soucy, Myers, Forbort, Desharanais are all plenty physical. Rather have Myers at 3M than Zadorav at 5M. Yes Zadorav was great in a Canucks jersey but the guys been a borderline 4-5 D man his whole career. We hyped him too much. At 4.5X4 years I would have loved him back. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 I just realized that by the end of this contract, Myers will likely have played more games in a Canucks sweater than Salo, Lumme, and possibly even Bieksa. Kind of crazy to think about. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 On 7/5/2024 at 7:16 AM, Salacious Crumb said: That’s Alvin’s public spin job. Not logical. The fact they signed Myers before FA started refutes your spin job narrative. Your spin job narrative is not logical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salacious Crumb Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 24 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: The fact they signed Myers before FA started refutes your spin job narrative. Your spin job narrative is not logical. Thank you for your unsolicited opinion. Nobody loves you and it shows. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 4 hours ago, Salacious Crumb said: Thank you for your unsolicited opinion. Nobody loves you and it shows. That’s a heaping pile of projection there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salacious Crumb Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 4 hours ago, canuck73_3 said: That’s a heaping pile of projection there. Apologies for the poor response on my part. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Duke Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 1 hour ago, Jaimito said: I’m pretty sure Tocchet mentioned guys going down too early as one of the things he wanted to clean up when he came in. Funny how new coaches got through to Myers on a bad habit in a few weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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