VegasCanuck Posted Sunday at 03:39 PM Share Posted Sunday at 03:39 PM If this was a sure thing, it would be a sign and trade instead of just acquiring his rights. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted Sunday at 03:40 PM Share Posted Sunday at 03:40 PM 13 minutes ago, Dizzle said: Also… STAMMERRRR COME TO VANNN! It would be hilarious if Reinhart signed in Vancouver. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted Sunday at 03:40 PM Share Posted Sunday at 03:40 PM Cue the Stamkos to Carolina talk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted Sunday at 03:41 PM Share Posted Sunday at 03:41 PM Just now, VegasCanuck said: If this was a sure thing, it would be a sign and trade instead of just acquiring his rights. Carolina is under no obligation to help them with that, and the price to help out a rival was likely too high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaimito Posted Sunday at 03:42 PM Share Posted Sunday at 03:42 PM PA has a plan B, C etc Let's see what they get. Stamkos will be amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted Sunday at 03:43 PM Share Posted Sunday at 03:43 PM 1 minute ago, Bob Long said: Carolina is under no obligation to help them with that, and the price to help out a rival was likely too high. No, but it would gave allowed both sides to maximize return. Tampa could potentially get a lower cap hit with a full 8 year term, Carolina could have demanded a better return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted Sunday at 03:46 PM Share Posted Sunday at 03:46 PM (edited) 12 minutes ago, Provost said: This Guentzel mania is crazy. He is a good player, but not some elite superstar. It seems like a third of the teams in the league are actively clearing space or pursuing him. I don’t get how deducting Sergachev and Stamkos and adding Guentzel makes Tampa better. Sergachev from now on will be an injury risk. And although LTIR is nice to use, it sucks when it’s a player of major importance to the club that ends up shelved. I can understand them trading him while he still has value and early into that mega contract. Stamkos is a shocker but I would not be surprised if they make one more $$ trade and end up bringing him back in. Cernak’s cap hit would cover Stamkos and I wouldn’t be surprised if he circles back to TB after (if) they ink Guentzel. It gives teams hope that there’s another top flight UFA available and perhaps shifts perception, which could just be more smoke and mirrors to hide true intentions while they manoeuvre through the process. Maybe I’m just skeptical though…have a real hard time imagining Stamkos not retiring in their jersey but loyalty isn’t what it used to be in today’s billion dollar franchises NHL Edited Sunday at 03:46 PM by RWJC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris12345 Posted Sunday at 03:46 PM Share Posted Sunday at 03:46 PM 17 minutes ago, Rip The Mesh said: Think he's come to the west coast? Guess it depends on the scratch.. Detroit is my guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rip The Mesh Posted Sunday at 03:46 PM Author Share Posted Sunday at 03:46 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted Sunday at 03:47 PM Share Posted Sunday at 03:47 PM 2 minutes ago, VegasCanuck said: No, but it would gave allowed both sides to maximize return. Tampa could potentially get a lower cap hit with a full 8 year term, Carolina could have demanded a better return. I suspect Carolina did have a price but imagine if it's us dealing with Dallas eg, if we were helping a conference rival I'd want a ton back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted Sunday at 03:47 PM Share Posted Sunday at 03:47 PM 6 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: It would be hilarious if Reinhart signed in Vancouver. Weird he's still not locked up by Florida... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted Sunday at 03:49 PM Share Posted Sunday at 03:49 PM Most of the time, rights being traded results in the player getting signed, but it has happened several times where a deal cannot be reached by the new team either. Examples in recent history... Dan Hamhuis Christian Ehrhoff Dan Boyle All 3 hit UFA anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted Sunday at 03:50 PM Share Posted Sunday at 03:50 PM Just now, HKSR said: Weird he's still not locked up by Florida... Agree... people talking like its a done deal he stays but gotta be a reason its not been done by now. Probably Florida looking to save some $$$ now they have won the big one. That being said you would have thought they would have traded his rights already if they really thought it wasn't getting done given the prices being paid right now for those. Out of all these i'd love it if we got Sam - he's a home town boy, absolute class, huge IQ, can play C or W, him and Petey could really click and he's the best age fit of all these FA's. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure10Kuzmenko96 Posted Sunday at 03:50 PM Share Posted Sunday at 03:50 PM 7 minutes ago, VegasCanuck said: No, but it would gave allowed both sides to maximize return. Tampa could potentially get a lower cap hit with a full 8 year term, Carolina could have demanded a better return. Tampa can only do 7 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted Sunday at 03:51 PM Share Posted Sunday at 03:51 PM 1 minute ago, HKSR said: Weird he's still not locked up by Florida... It may just be a matter of seeing what the free agent prices are to help determine market rate. I don’t see any reason why either side would want to move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted Sunday at 03:52 PM Share Posted Sunday at 03:52 PM 19 minutes ago, MeanSeanBean said: I just fell to my knees.... In praise, right? Thanking the hockey Gods? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted Sunday at 03:52 PM Share Posted Sunday at 03:52 PM 12 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: It would be hilarious if Reinhart signed in Vancouver. Would love that too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RawkDrummer Posted Sunday at 03:55 PM Share Posted Sunday at 03:55 PM It's a long shot but... I think Petey wouldn't mind Stammer on his wing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted Sunday at 03:56 PM Share Posted Sunday at 03:56 PM 1 minute ago, N4ZZY said: Would love that too. I could see that as a devious plan, pushing up JG value, and when no one expects. The Canucks sign him. Yeah it's wishful thinking, but it's a good dream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted Sunday at 03:56 PM Share Posted Sunday at 03:56 PM 4 minutes ago, Provost said: It may just be a matter of seeing what the free agent prices are to help determine market rate. I don’t see any reason why either side would want to move on. Who knows... maybe they are eyeing Stamkos which could save them a few million in cap... allowing them to keep Ekblad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekker Posted Sunday at 03:58 PM Share Posted Sunday at 03:58 PM Smart. Now they sit down with Stammer and Guentz This is what we can send, make it work. Two top UFA's signing in a tax friendly state coming up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted Sunday at 03:58 PM Share Posted Sunday at 03:58 PM 33 minutes ago, Dizzle said: I’m really interested to see how they make that work… Low taxes and LTIR? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted Sunday at 03:59 PM Share Posted Sunday at 03:59 PM 16 minutes ago, Jaimito said: PA has a plan B, C etc Let's see what they get. Stamkos will be amazing. PAJR are focused on Crosby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern_Nuck Posted Sunday at 04:03 PM Share Posted Sunday at 04:03 PM 4 minutes ago, Wilbur said: Low taxes and LTIR? I think it’s definitely a disadvantage to the Canucks that BC has the highest taxes in the world. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted Sunday at 04:04 PM Share Posted Sunday at 04:04 PM 12 minutes ago, Bure10Kuzmenko96 said: Tampa can only do 7 years Yup, that's the point I was making. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.