Herberts Vasiljevs Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 1 minute ago, Pears said: Regardless of who it was, giving up a pick as high as a 3rd is a pretty strong indicator they're signing him. Or it's a roll of the dice, just like the pick in itself is... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herberts Vasiljevs Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 (edited) Rather than people trying to pre-maturely cope with disappointment (that isn't even a sealed deal yet), why don't we just wait another 24 hours? Edited June 30 by Herberts Vasiljevs 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopCheese Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 i think with JG most likely signing in tampa this gives us a chance to hopefully round out our scoring with guys like tervainen etc we also now have 9mill of cap we were going to use on JG to easily fill our defence holes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 17 minutes ago, iinatcc said: But Canucks are fumbling here I feel. Leafs, Utah, and now the Bolts have went ahead of the Canucks in securing either a player or their rights FA hasn’t even started yet. Calm down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 1 minute ago, Herberts Vasiljevs said: Rather than people trying to pre-maturely cope with disappointment (that isn't even a dealed deal yet), why don't we just wait another 24 hours? We certainly could, but I highly doubt anyone is giving up a 3rd for someones negotiating rights if they didn't at least think they had a really good chance at signing them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herberts Vasiljevs Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 Just now, TopCheese said: i think with JG most likely signing in tampa this gives us a chance to hopefully round out our scoring with guys like tervainen etc we also now have 9mill of cap we were going to use on JG to easily fill our defence holes Problem though is that he's primarily a player maker, albeit with elite offensive instincts. We need a scorer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzle Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 19 minutes ago, iinatcc said: But Canucks are fumbling here I feel. Leafs, Utah, and now the Bolts have went ahead of the Canucks in securing either a player or their rights 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonkers Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 3 hours ago, Northern_Nuck said: I think it’s definitely a disadvantage to the Canucks that BC has the highest taxes in the world. Hold my (Swedish) beer..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nux_win Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 3 hours ago, Wheres Wellwood said: Why didn't we trade Zadorov's rights to someone instead of announcing he's testing free agency? I think that we were actually trying to sign him right up until the last minute. Trading his rights wouldn't have helped that process. GCG! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 2 minutes ago, Dizzle said: Might as well just pack up and fold shop Utah Toronto and Tampa won June 29th 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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WHL rocks Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 24 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: Might as well just pack up and fold shop Utah Toronto and Tampa won June 29th Canucks will win July 1st. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kirk Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 Wow.....who's this Guentzel kid, you'd think he was the second coming of Wayne Gretzky?..................lol. He wasn't great enough for the Hurricanes to get past the Rangers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 3 minutes ago, Captain Kirk said: Wow.....who's this Guentzel kid, you'd think he was the second coming of Wayne Gretzky?..................lol. He wasn't great enough for the Hurricanes to get past the Rangers. He was the only reason they even had a shot. 9 pts in 11 games, lets not be ignorant here 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 I’m really surprised negotiating rights cost so much still when other teams can still talk to the player and agent. It used to be that you got exclusive negotiations with the player but not anymore. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancan Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 3 hours ago, DeNiro said: For regular people yes, for the elite no. Theres still plenty of loopholes to get around it. Tavaras being threatened to pay back 8 million says alot about the "loop holes". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herberts Vasiljevs Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 Tampa knows this is really their only chance before tomorrow. I honestly don't blame them for trying here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 1 minute ago, Vancan said: Tavaras being threatened to pay back 8 million says alot about the "loop holes". Says more about his accountant. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks curse Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 Maybe he wants to play in a big market where hockey is top dog maybe he even wants to try a Canadian market look how much fun Hughes, Demko and miller are having now Vancouver is city in world with most Americans in it outside of USA of course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinatcc Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 1 hour ago, canuck73_3 said: FA hasn’t even started yet. Calm down. Maybe but the moves Toronto, Utah, and Tampa made kind of blocks plan A and plan B for the Canucks. Obviously Plan A would have been Guentzel but if he's signed with another team the next plan is to maybe add two defensemen and one cheaper winger. So I think if Guentzel is signed by Tampa, along with Tanev. The avenue for Canucks to improve becomes slimmer and even if they get some players, making Guentzel and Tanev unavailable before Free Agency, it probably increases the asking price of the remaining free agents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 (edited) 9 minutes ago, iinatcc said: Maybe but the moves Toronto, Utah, and Tampa made kind of blocks plan A and plan B for the Canucks. Obviously Plan A would have been Guentzel but if he's signed with another team the next plan is to maybe add two defensemen and one cheaper winger. So I think if Guentzel is signed by Tampa, along with Tanev. The avenue for Canucks to improve becomes slimmer and even if they get some players, making Guentzel and Tanev unavailable before Free Agency, it probably increases the asking price of the remaining free agents. Talks are not close with Guentzel and Tampa, Carolina is still the only team that can offer 8 years. So far all Tampa has done is give a 3rd round pick for air. The only way Toronto can sign Tanev is signing him til he’s over 40 with an absolute albatross of a contract. So all I see is 2 teams that have paid to get worse and Utah. Edited June 30 by canuck73_3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinatcc Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 17 minutes ago, Captain Kirk said: Wow.....who's this Guentzel kid, you'd think he was the second coming of Wayne Gretzky?..................lol. He wasn't great enough for the Hurricanes to get past the Rangers. You can't knock down a team getting eliminated against the President Trophy winners and the Canucks couldn't get past the 2nd round either. Analysts believe getting a player like Guentzel will propel the team to be a top 3 team in the West. Since the Canucks are obviously in win now mode, they need to make sure to make it happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancan Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 4 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Says more about his accountant. 4 minutes ago, canucks curse said: Maybe he wants to play in a big market where hockey is top dog maybe he even wants to try a Canadian market look how much fun Hughes, Demko and miller are having now Vancouver is city in world with most Americans in it outside of USA of course Canucks also have a TON of Americans the team. Could be leverage. Having Pettersson as your regular center is leverage to. Saying that Brayden Point as a center is quite compelling as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 4 minutes ago, iinatcc said: Maybe but the moves Toronto, Utah, and Tampa made kind of blocks plan A and plan B for the Canucks. Obviously Plan A would have been Guentzel but if he's signed with another team the next plan is to maybe add two defensemen and one cheaper winger. So I think if Guentzel is signed by Tampa, along with Tanev. The avenue for Canucks to improve becomes slimmer and even if they get some players, making Guentzel and Tanev unavailable before Free Agency, it probably increases the asking price of the remaining free agents. It does become slimmer but nothings happened yet it’s just rights. Canucks management want Guentzel but obviously either didn’t want to part with a 3rd round pick especially with our lack of draft capital and also doing so you’re almost obligated to give Guentzel the 8 years instead of 7 during FA. Tanev has no pressure to sign as he clearly isn’t getting 8 years so he’s waiting for sure so that’s wasted assets by the leafs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted June 30 Share Posted June 30 6 minutes ago, iinatcc said: Maybe but the moves Toronto, Utah, and Tampa made kind of blocks plan A and plan B for the Canucks. Obviously Plan A would have been Guentzel but if he's signed with another team the next plan is to maybe add two defensemen and one cheaper winger. So I think if Guentzel is signed by Tampa, along with Tanev. The avenue for Canucks to improve becomes slimmer and even if they get some players, making Guentzel and Tanev unavailable before Free Agency, it probably increases the asking price of the remaining free agents. Let’s not ignore that to make this work they shipped out Jeannot and Sergachev for peanuts. so they need and if they miss on Guentzel they still need a winger and replacements for Jeannot, Moser is not as good as Sergachev either so they will likely need a reliable depth dman too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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