Canadian Politics Thread

[Elias Pettersson]

13 minutes ago, DSVII said:

 

He's trying to aim for this crazy small bullseye of not calling an election but not stepping down and saving something up for 2025.

 

Basically like ragging the puck in the 3rd period when you're down 3-0.

 

 

Strategically, I think they are waiting on the results of the US election. We'll probably see alot more ads in November/December.

 

Yeah.  I predict a Spring election.  I don’t think they are gonna wait until the fall.  Jagmeet will have his pension locked in by then.

[bolt]

7 hours ago, DSVII said:

 

He's trying to aim for this crazy small bullseye of not calling an election but not stepping down and saving something up for 2025.

 

Basically like ragging the puck in the 3rd period when you're down 3-0.

 

 

Strategically, I think they are waiting on the results of the US election. We'll probably see alot more ads in November/December.

More like down 7-0. They are on track to be just 4th in seat totals.

Edited Tuesday at 02:02 PM by bolt

[Bob Long]

7 hours ago, DSVII said:

 

He's trying to aim for this crazy small bullseye of not calling an election but not stepping down and saving something up for 2025.

 

Basically like ragging the puck in the 3rd period when you're down 3-0.

 

 

Strategically, I think they are waiting on the results of the US election. We'll probably see alot more ads in November/December.

 

A trump win would likely help the libs a little but whatever Carney is cooking up will be their election platform.

 

PP is already trying to discredit it with his "carbon tax Carney" nonsense.

 

 

[Warhippy]

Historically, a strong NDP push ALWAYS results in a Conservative majority.

 

Not just a little, but ALWAYS.

[Bob Long]

1 minute ago, Warhippy said:

Historically, a strong NDP push ALWAYS results in a Conservative majority.

 

Not just a little, but ALWAYS.

 

You are correct, but this was just a byelection at the end of the day.

 

The really interesting one to me is the Bloc. Can they prevent the CPC from winning seats in Quebec? 

[Warhippy]

Meanwhile in "Trudeau is the root of all evil and doesn't cae about us, and he won't do anything to help oil and gas" Alberta

 

Orphaned well fund given to the Alberta government partially returned unused.

 

They blame timing of course.  They "ran out of time"  But hey look, tax dollars going to clean up corporate messes after raking in hundreds of billions in profits over the years.

 

The Alberta government has officially handed back more than $137 million to the federal government after running out of time to spend the cash to clean up old oil and natural gas wells.

Questions remain about why the provincial government was unable to use the much-needed funding, considering there are tens of thousands of inactive wells. 

Many companies are also disappointed that the full amount wasn't spent because of the loss of reclamation work it would have created.

The cash was part of the federal government's $1.7-billion funding pledge in 2020 aimed at reducing the environmental risk of aging oil and gas infrastructure, while also providing work for the oilfield service sector after the pandemic began and oil prices crashed.

The money was divided between B.C. ($120 million), Alberta ($1 billion) and Saskatchewan ($400 million). Alberta's Orphan Well Association received a $200-million loan to support the cleanup of wells left over when companies go bankrupt.

Saskatchewan dispersed all of its share, while B.C. had to return a small amount of unspent money, the federal government

Last year, Alberta began lobbying the federal government to keep the leftover funds to continue remediation work in the oilpatch, specifically to clean up wells on Indigenous land, even though the deadline for the funding had passed.

"Though much effort was spent in trying to convince the federal government to see the value in this continuation, they demanded the return of the unexpended funds," said Alberta Energy Minister Brian Jean, in an emailed statement.

The money was returned last month, Jean said. It will be deposited with the government's general revenue, according to Katherine Cuplinskas, press secretary for federal Finance Minister Chrystia Freeland.

Unfinished work

"Why was that money not spent?" asked Duane Bratt, a political science professor at Mount Royal University in Calgary. "The sector agrees it's important, the provincial government thinks it's important, the federal government has said it's important, resources were put in play and they weren't used or they weren't fully used."

Bratt also pointed to the political optics of the situation, considering Premier Danielle Smith and her cabinet "complain all the time about federal spending powers in Alberta and that there's inequitable transfer payments between Ottawa and Alberta compared to other provinces."

Initially, the Alberta government struggled to launch its Site Rehabilitation Program (SRP) as government staff were overwhelmed by a flood of applications. Eventually, tens of thousands of projects were approved to use up all of the federal funding. 

confirmed.

Still, after a few years, a portion of the money remained unspent as some of the approved cleanup work was not completed.

Some industry leaders point to poor weather and labour shortages to help explain the unfinished work.

"You can't expect us to spend all of this in minus-35 degree weather when the ground is frozen," said Gurpreet Lail, president and CEO of Enserva, an association representing oilfield service companies.

"If we had a little bit more time, we would have spent this money," she said.

A portion of the SRP focused on cleaning up wells and other old oil and gas infrastructure on Indigenous land, which took time to provide training to local communities.

The unused funding is "1,000 per cent a lost opportunity," but the overall program was critical in helping the industry through an "extremely difficult" time for the sector, said Lail.

She wishes the leftover money could have stayed in the province to continue cleanup efforts, specifically on Indigenous land.

"This is the first time we've been able to train Indigenous people to work on their own land in reclamation and dealing with abandoned wells alongside all our member companies. And why wouldn't you want to continue that work?" she said.

Edited Tuesday at 03:30 PM by Warhippy

[bolt]

7 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

Meanwhile in "Trudeau is the root of all evil and doesn't cae about us, and he won't do anything to help oil and gas" Alberta

 

Orphaned well fund given to the Alberta government partially returned unused.

 

They blame timing of course.  They "ran out of time"  But hey look, tax dollars going to clean up corporate messes after raking in hundreds of billions in profits over the years.

 

The Alberta government has officially handed back more than $137 million to the federal government after running out of time to spend the cash to clean up old oil and natural gas wells.

Questions remain about why the provincial government was unable to use the much-needed funding, considering there are tens of thousands of inactive wells. 

Many companies are also disappointed that the full amount wasn't spent because of the loss of reclamation work it would have created.

The cash was part of the federal government's $1.7-billion funding pledge in 2020 aimed at reducing the environmental risk of aging oil and gas infrastructure, while also providing work for the oilfield service sector after the pandemic began and oil prices crashed.

The money was divided between B.C. ($120 million), Alberta ($1 billion) and Saskatchewan ($400 million). Alberta's Orphan Well Association received a $200-million loan to support the cleanup of wells left over when companies go bankrupt.

Saskatchewan dispersed all of its share, while B.C. had to return a small amount of unspent money, the federal government

Last year, Alberta began lobbying the federal government to keep the leftover funds to continue remediation work in the oilpatch, specifically to clean up wells on Indigenous land, even though the deadline for the funding had passed.

"Though much effort was spent in trying to convince the federal government to see the value in this continuation, they demanded the return of the unexpended funds," said Alberta Energy Minister Brian Jean, in an emailed statement.

The money was returned last month, Jean said. It will be deposited with the government's general revenue, according to Katherine Cuplinskas, press secretary for federal Finance Minister Chrystia Freeland.

Unfinished work

"Why was that money not spent?" asked Duane Bratt, a political science professor at Mount Royal University in Calgary. "The sector agrees it's important, the provincial government thinks it's important, the federal government has said it's important, resources were put in play and they weren't used or they weren't fully used."

Bratt also pointed to the political optics of the situation, considering Premier Danielle Smith and her cabinet "complain all the time about federal spending powers in Alberta and that there's inequitable transfer payments between Ottawa and Alberta compared to other provinces."

Initially, the Alberta government struggled to launch its Site Rehabilitation Program (SRP) as government staff were overwhelmed by a flood of applications. Eventually, tens of thousands of projects were approved to use up all of the federal funding. 

confirmed.

Still, after a few years, a portion of the money remained unspent as some of the approved cleanup work was not completed.

Some industry leaders point to poor weather and labour shortages to help explain the unfinished work.

"You can't expect us to spend all of this in minus-35 degree weather when the ground is frozen," said Gurpreet Lail, president and CEO of Enserva, an association representing oilfield service companies.

"If we had a little bit more time, we would have spent this money," she said.

A portion of the SRP focused on cleaning up wells and other old oil and gas infrastructure on Indigenous land, which took time to provide training to local communities.

The unused funding is "1,000 per cent a lost opportunity," but the overall program was critical in helping the industry through an "extremely difficult" time for the sector, said Lail.

She wishes the leftover money could have stayed in the province to continue cleanup efforts, specifically on Indigenous land.

"This is the first time we've been able to train Indigenous people to work on their own land in reclamation and dealing with abandoned wells alongside all our member companies. And why wouldn't you want to continue that work?" she said.

Yawn as if the Liberals spend money effiently.

Edited Tuesday at 03:36 PM by bolt

[Warhippy]

1 minute ago, bolt said:

Yawn as if the Liberals spend money effiently.

yawn

 

Facts?

 

The Trudeau Liberals have increased investment and spending in oil and gas and energy faster than any conservative party before them and patch workers enjoy insane amounts of assistance from the feds.

 

But whatever.  It's f**king Trudeau's fault

[Elias Pettersson]

2 hours ago, bolt said:

More like down 7-0. They are on track to be just 4th in seat totals.

If the NDP had a viable leader, they would easily become the official opposition party. Jagmeet is no Jack Layton. 

[nuckin_futz]

Canada August CPI 2.0% vs 2.1% expected

• Canada August 2024 inflation data

 

 

Canada CPI the lowest since March 2021

• Prior month 2.5%(it came in as expected)
• CPI MoM -0.2% vs 0.0% expected.
• Prior MoM +0.4%

THe YoY of 2.0% is the lowest since March 2021.

Core measures:

 

• CPI Bank of Canada core YoY 1.5% vs 1.7% last month
• CPI Bank of Canada core MoM -0.1% versus +0.3% last month
• Core CPI MoM SA 0.1% versus 0.1% last month
• Median 2.3% versus 2.2% estimate. Last month 2.4%
• Trim 2.4% versus 2.5% estimate. Last month .7%
• Common 2.0% versus 2.2% last month

All that's left in Canadian inflation is shelter and mortgage interest

• Strip those out and Canadian inflation is undershooting

Today's Canadian CPI report highlights how far the Bank of Canada has fallen behind the curve.

 

Virtually the lone sources of inflation are mortgage interest and shelter, which is due to laggy rent calculations. Overall inflation is at 2.0%, hitting the target for the first time since 2021 but a deeper dive shows a weaker picture.

 

Excluding mortgage interest -- something the Bank of Canada directly controls -- inflation is 1.2% y/y. Excluding shelter, prices only rose 0.5% in the year.

 

Rents rose 1.0% in the month and 9% in the year but those numbers likely reflect lags in how the data is calculated. Market-based rents are falling in Canada's biggest cities and slackening elsewhere.

 

CIBC also highlights some worrisome trends, especially in back-to-school shopping.

 

"Clothing & footwear prices also fell on the month, which Statistics Canada noted was atypical for August, which generally sees price increases due to back-to-school shopping. Indeed, it was the first August decline in that component since 1971, and could be an indication that weak demand had left retailers with a stock overhang towards the end of the summer."

 

They also noted soft vehicle prices as well as downward pressure on travel tour, air transportation and traveller accommodation prices.

 

This certainly doesn't look like a central bank that needs to have borrowing rates at 4.25%.

 

CIBC writes:

"With gasoline prices falling further into September, headline inflation should ease again in the next release and CPI excluding MIC could well fall below 1%. The bottom line then is that inflation remains nonthreatening and the Bank of Canada should now focus on trying to stimulate the economy and halting the upward climb in the unemployment rate. We continue to forecast a further 200bp of interest rate cuts between now and the middle of next year."

The big question for the BOC is whether to start cutting by 50 bps. Governor Tiff Macklem has highlighted growth data as something that will tilt his decision but the inflation numbers show he's already behind the curve.

 

Edited Tuesday at 05:03 PM by nuckin_futz

[Bob Long]

19 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said:

If the NDP had a viable leader, they would easily become the official opposition party. Jagmeet is no Jack Layton. 

 

Is true.

 

It's too bad Nenshi didn't go for jags job.

[Sapper]

The writing has been on the wall for a few months now ... Pee Pee has switched nearly all his ranting to the carbon tax as we are leading globally in taming inflation and lower interest rates.  Now I'm not sure Trudeau gets much credit for it ... It's our overall economy and systems in place that helped more than him personally. But it's clear he didn't hurt it as Pee Pee has cried 

 

The issue now is Pee Pee has his followers completely fooled that when the carbon tax is gone we are all going to be rich beyond our wildest dreams. Everything is going to drop massively in price quickly so your pay will be so powerful ....

 

Outside of your home heating bill if you use gas .... Not much else is going to drop in price or if it does it will be so little you won't notice it

 

Anyone believing all the savings will be passed on are dillusional.

 

Let's say just for laughs it is all passed on .... The savings won't make housing affordable and nor will it make your paycheque powerful ........  Any money in your pocket helps but the amount will not be noticable to most 

 

The savings on home heating here in BC would reflect $500 to $800 a year savings as fortis would be forced to pass on that savings.

 

At the pump prices may drop the day carbon tax drops but within a short period will be back at the same price ..... Zero chance your getting that savings 

 

Between only having carbon tax left to fear monger on .... If the liberals where smart they would simply end the carbon tax and replace Truduea .... Give the new leader 6 months then go to an election.  Still think Pee Pee will win as the extremists are drooling at returning to 1800's morality and government functions ..... But it won't be the massive majority Pee Pee would get now.  Depending on who takes over the libs and if they can get interest rates down faster ...... It could very well keep us in a minority government and that wouldn't be a terrible thing 

[Bob Long]

43 minutes ago, Sapper said:

The writing has been on the wall for a few months now ... Pee Pee has switched nearly all his ranting to the carbon tax as we are leading globally in taming inflation and lower interest rates.  Now I'm not sure Trudeau gets much credit for it ... It's our overall economy and systems in place that helped more than him personally. But it's clear he didn't hurt it as Pee Pee has cried 

 

The issue now is Pee Pee has his followers completely fooled that when the carbon tax is gone we are all going to be rich beyond our wildest dreams. Everything is going to drop massively in price quickly so your pay will be so powerful ....

 

Outside of your home heating bill if you use gas .... Not much else is going to drop in price or if it does it will be so little you won't notice it

 

Anyone believing all the savings will be passed on are dillusional.

 

Let's say just for laughs it is all passed on .... The savings won't make housing affordable and nor will it make your paycheque powerful ........  Any money in your pocket helps but the amount will not be noticable to most 

 

The savings on home heating here in BC would reflect $500 to $800 a year savings as fortis would be forced to pass on that savings.

 

At the pump prices may drop the day carbon tax drops but within a short period will be back at the same price ..... Zero chance your getting that savings 

 

Between only having carbon tax left to fear monger on .... If the liberals where smart they would simply end the carbon tax and replace Truduea .... Give the new leader 6 months then go to an election.  Still think Pee Pee will win as the extremists are drooling at returning to 1800's morality and government functions ..... But it won't be the massive majority Pee Pee would get now.  Depending on who takes over the libs and if they can get interest rates down faster ...... It could very well keep us in a minority government and that wouldn't be a terrible thing 

 

I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Carneys plan shift carbon tax to just the big emitters.

 

[The Arrogant Worms]

 

[Optimist Prime]

2 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said:

If the NDP had a viable leader, they would easily become the official opposition party. Jagmeet is no Jack Layton. 

Most likely very true. ; )

 

I am browsing some deeper dive numbers that arrived in my inbox this morning. The Conservative lead is growing again, across the general voting public, but the really weird part is the absolute lead the Liberals still have in one or two demographics: voters age 60 and older the LIBs hold a 7.08% lead over the CONs nationally, and despite last nights by-election loss in Montreal, the LIBs have a growing lead over the waning BLOC and Cons are third while NDP is fourth, but growing. Libs lead and its growing, NDP in fourth and their support in QC is also growing, while BLOC and CONS are falling there. Really odd that those two things are true while the general numbers heavily favouring the Conservatives is also true. 

Federal All Voters: More than two points down from peak CONs support coast to coast to coast in April 2024.

CON: 41.55%

LIB: 24.51%

NDP: 22.44%

BQ: 6.47%

GRN: 3.21%

PPC: 1.47%

 

Federal Voters Age 60+ This is the Liberals best percentage of support among 60plus voters since the end of July 2023.

LIB: 37.22%

CON: 30.14%

NDP: 19.08%

BQ: 8.47%

GRN: 3.30%

PPC: 1.43%

 

It is weird for me to see the overall support for the Conservatives go up 2.64% from the 6th to the 13th this month, but still see the Liberals support among seniors go up over 7% points just since the end of August. Something is happening, but I will need another weeks data to see it for sure. Factor in an overall NDP gain of 8.16% since mid August among Seniors and also the NDP share of support across all voters go up over 6% since mid August. 

What I suspect, but will need more data, is that there is a sliding of soft support to the big teams. BQ is down, GRN is down, PPC is down. The congealing of support in various ways for the big three is super interesting for me. Liberals are weighted lower overall on some weakness among the least likely to vote demographic: 18-29 year olds. If they are motivated, a tidal shift could be in the making, but if they are not, that 60+ number historically rings closest to the final election night results. But like I said, I will need to see some more numbers next week to confirm trends or prove them false. 

 

Federal Voters Age 18-29: It warms my heart that the young voters today have completely rejected the PPC and their incredibly alt right stance. Feels good to me. 
CON: 46.57%
NDP: 29.59%

LIB: 13.49%

GRN: 4.56%

BQ: 4.49%

PPC: 0.42%

 

So you can see yourselves that the youth vote is trending much higher than the overall Conservative support, while it is a drag on the overall liberal support and as historically accurate, the youth vote always trends higher for the NDP than the overall levels of support. Interesting to note in this demographic just a month ago the Liberals and NDP were basically tied and the CONS only had a lead of 12% ( a week later the NDP and CONS were neck and neck) so it is a very volatile demo to try to track. 

 

I am so curious what next weeks numbers will bring. 

[Elias Pettersson]

8 minutes ago, Optimist Prime said:

Most likely very true. ; )

 

I am browsing some deeper dive numbers that arrived in my inbox this morning. The Conservative lead is growing again, across the general voting public, but the really weird part is the absolute lead the Liberals still have in one or two demographics: voters age 60 and older the LIBs hold a 7.08% lead over the CONs nationally, and despite last nights by-election loss in Montreal, the LIBs have a growing lead over the waning BLOC and Cons are third while NDP is fourth, but growing. Libs lead and its growing, NDP in fourth and their support in QC is also growing, while BLOC and CONS are falling there. Really odd that those two things are true while the general numbers heavily favouring the Conservatives is also true. 

Federal All Voters: More than two points down from peak CONs support coast to coast to coast in April 2024.

CON: 41.55%

LIB: 24.51%

NDP: 22.44%

BQ: 6.47%

GRN: 3.21%

PPC: 1.47%

 

Federal Voters Age 60+ This is the Liberals best percentage of support among 60plus voters since the end of July 2023.

LIB: 37.22%

CON: 30.14%

NDP: 19.08%

BQ: 8.47%

GRN: 3.30%

PPC: 1.43%

 

It is weird for me to see the overall support for the Conservatives go up 2.64% from the 6th to the 13th this month, but still see the Liberals support among seniors go up over 7% points just since the end of August. Something is happening, but I will need another weeks data to see it for sure. Factor in an overall NDP gain of 8.16% since mid August among Seniors and also the NDP share of support across all voters go up over 6% since mid August. 

What I suspect, but will need more data, is that there is a sliding of soft support to the big teams. BQ is down, GRN is down, PPC is down. The congealing of support in various ways for the big three is super interesting for me. Liberals are weighted lower overall on some weakness among the least likely to vote demographic: 18-29 year olds. If they are motivated, a tidal shift could be in the making, but if they are not, that 60+ number historically rings closest to the final election night results. But like I said, I will need to see some more numbers next week to confirm trends or prove them false. 

 

Federal Voters Age 18-29: It warms my heart that the young voters today have completely rejected the PPC and their incredibly alt right stance. Feels good to me. 
CON: 46.57%
NDP: 29.59%

LIB: 13.49%

GRN: 4.56%

BQ: 4.49%

PPC: 0.42%

 

So you can see yourselves that the youth vote is trending much higher than the overall Conservative support, while it is a drag on the overall liberal support and as historically accurate, the youth vote always trends higher for the NDP than the overall levels of support. Interesting to note in this demographic just a month ago the Liberals and NDP were basically tied and the CONS only had a lead of 12% ( a week later the NDP and CONS were neck and neck) so it is a very volatile demo to try to track. 

 

I am so curious what next weeks numbers will bring. 

 

That’s a good summary OP.  The concerning factor for the Liberals is they have very little support among the under 30 crowd.  Almost half of the NDP.  The over 60 crowd will eventually die off unfortunately.  So the future does not look good for the Liberals at the moment.

 

If the Liberals are not careful they could lose even the official opposition status at some point in the future.  I mean the Liberal party was completely wiped out in BC.  PP is a relatively young guy.  He could be around a long time.  I suspect the NDP will get a new leader soon who is younger as well.  Trudeau is still young for a politician but could be gone in less than a year.  I don’t see any young Liberal MP who could take over for the Liberals who is a game changer.  

 

To me, the Liberals look like they are in the exact spot as they were in the early 2000’s after Chrétien and Martin were gone.  Took them over a decade to find a young Trudeau.  Who will be the next young Trudeau for the Liberals?

 

[Elias Pettersson]

1 hour ago, Bob Long said:

 

I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Carneys plan shift carbon tax to just the big emitters.

 

 

The Liberals have lost the last 2 by-elections where they had long time seats.  Unless there is a major shakeup in the party, they could even lose official opposition status next year.  If that is the case Mark Carney won’t be hanging around…

[Optimist Prime]

Just now, Elias Pettersson said:

 

That’s a good summary OP.  The concerning factor for the Liberals is they have very little support among the under 30 crowd.  Almost half of the NDP.  The over 60 crowd will eventually die off unfortunately.  So the future does not look good for the Liberals at the moment.

 

If the Liberals are not careful they could lose even the official opposition status at some point in the future.  I mean the Liberal party was completely wiped out in BC.  PP is a relatively young guy.  He could be around a long time.  I suspect the NDP will get a new leader soon who is younger as well.  Trudeau is still young for a politician but could be gone in less than a year.  I don’t see any young Liberal MP who could take over for the Liberals who is a game changer.  

 

To me, the Liberals look like they are in the exact spot as they were in the early 2000’s after Chrétien and Martin were gone.  Took them over a decade to find a young Trudeau.  Who will be the next young Trudeau for the Liberals?

 

We have a few young stars on the horizon but the ebb and flow of politics is a wild arch of much smaller time vignettes. It is remarkable that it took a decade to take out Harper, but it is remarkable because it 'should' have happened faster. I really like Stephane Dion, he is actually the reason i joined the Liberal party, as much as folks think i love Trudeau, he is just our leader and Prime Minister, and I am happy to have met him. Dion was MY GUY. One of the smartest people in politics in my generation. He is responsible for a lot of social and environmental progress at home and around the world, despite being unable to convince anglo-Canucks that he had what it takes. Iggy was a smart guy, but didn't have the story to win, even before he became the party leader. My suspicion is that if Poilievre wins, it isn't his age that will usher him out quickly, it will be his agenda and policies. Axe the Tax is only a resounding battle cry until you axe it. Then what? 

 

[Elias Pettersson]

Does Jagmeet want to be the next Prime Minister or the next MMA heavyweight champion?  

 

 

 

[King Heffy]

20 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said:

 

That’s a good summary OP.  The concerning factor for the Liberals is they have very little support among the under 30 crowd.  Almost half of the NDP.  The over 60 crowd will eventually die off unfortunately.  So the future does not look good for the Liberals at the moment.

 

If the Liberals are not careful they could lose even the official opposition status at some point in the future.  I mean the Liberal party was completely wiped out in BC.  PP is a relatively young guy.  He could be around a long time.  I suspect the NDP will get a new leader soon who is younger as well.  Trudeau is still young for a politician but could be gone in less than a year.  I don’t see any young Liberal MP who could take over for the Liberals who is a game changer.  

 

To me, the Liberals look like they are in the exact spot as they were in the early 2000’s after Chrétien and Martin were gone.  Took them over a decade to find a young Trudeau.  Who will be the next young Trudeau for the Liberals?

 

If Poilivre is allowed to destroy the country the way he wants, he'll be out of office after one term and then spend the rest of his life in prison for his crimes against humanity.

[Optimist Prime]

7 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said:

Does Jagmeet want to be the next Prime Minister or the next MMA heavyweight champion?  

 

 

 

One thing is certainly true: whoever said it of the four people there who it could have been is in fact a coward. Wouldn't even own up to it while his buddy was being dressed down for the comment, assuming it wasn't that exact guy anyhow. I thought the Cowboy Convoy Yeehadists were True North Patriots, STRONG and free? Why not admit to saying it? Coward, whoever it was. 
I don't even like Mr Dhaliwal. 

[Maninthebox]

10 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said:

Does Jagmeet want to be the next Prime Minister or the next MMA heavyweight champion?  

 

 

 

 

Nothing wrong with that reaction from Singh.

[Optimist Prime]

27 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said:

The over 60 crowd will eventually die off unfortunately.

I missed this at first scan: these numbers have been collected for 20 years now. The AGE 60+ demographic is growing and growing due to longer lives and better education and health levels. Also, while an old person dies, the demo before them has another one age into the 60+. People aren't life long party members in Canada. We change our opinions as new data arrives, generally, because I think Canadians have a little more critical thinking skills than our southern neighbours whose education system has been under attack for generations now. 

[Bob Long]

41 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said:

 

The Liberals have lost the last 2 by-elections where they had long time seats.  Unless there is a major shakeup in the party, they could even lose official opposition status next year.  

 

meh, byelections often see seats lost for the majority party. What I found interesting is the CPC didn't pick one up. 

 

A lot does depend tho NDP folks, and if they split the vote in ridings where they don't have a chance at a seat but vote Juggy anyway. 

 

41 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said:

 

If that is the case Mark Carney won’t be hanging around…

 

he'll have the plan ready this fall. 

[Gurn]

Lets see now.

 

Economy doing well, after a global pandemic, a trade tiff, and a re-negotiation of NAFTA, with our biggest trading partner.

joined the Five Eyes intelligence group

Supporting Ukraine, with troop training before the invasion, and equipment and training since then.

Pipeline shipping Alberta oil in place.

Sent medical assistance to Alberta, and others, that required it during covid.

Supplied money to multiple provinces to assist with oil well clean up

getting more and more 'bad water' problems cleaned up on reserve land

Military capital spending up

Port shutdown everted

stayed out of the Air Canada negotiations

And on and on.

 

I'm really beginning to think that a part of our population just can not get past J.T.'s hairstyle.

Seems unreasonable to me, to be that against a hairstyle.