Canadian Politics Thread

[stawns]

8 minutes ago, Inspector BlakeQuinn said:

You're completely missing the boat here.  It's so much more than teaching.

 

Parents are being kept in the dark.

 

Kids should never be encouraged to take hormone therapy 

It's none of your business what parents do with their own kids.  You dont believe in it, so don't do it, easy peasy.  

[Inspector BlakeQuinn]

1 hour ago, stawns said:

It's none of your business what parents do with their own kids.  You dont believe in it, so don't do it, easy peasy.  

Kids are encouraged to do this behind parents backs. Don't you get it?

 

Not wanting your children indoctrinated by [removed], ill willed transgenders is not hateful, and protesting it is not a hate rally.

Edited September 21, 2023 by Sharpshooter
Nope

[Bob Long]

1 hour ago, Inspector BlakeQuinn said:

Kids are encouraged to do this behind parents backs. Don't you get it?

 

Not wanting your children indoctrinated by [removed], ill willed transgenders is not hateful, and protesting it is not a hate rally.

 

the way you are framing this just isn't true. Where are you hearing this? 

[Inspector BlakeQuinn]

4 minutes ago, Bob Long said:

 

the way you are framing this just isn't true. Where are you hearing this? 

There are stories of this happening all over the continent. A simple Google search...

[stawns]

1 hour ago, Inspector BlakeQuinn said:

Kids are encouraged to do this behind parents backs. Don't you get it?

 

Not wanting your children indoctrinated by [removed], ill willed transgenders is not hateful, and protesting it is not a hate rally.

And you know this how?  I've never seen a single adult in schools ever encourage a student to pursue any medical treatment (outside of first aid), let alone behind parents back.

 

You are the victim of grifters and con men, sorry to say

 

 

[Bob Long]

17 minutes ago, Inspector BlakeQuinn said:

There are stories of this happening all over the continent. A simple Google search...

 

OK "stories". From who? what do they stand to gain by freaking you out? 

 

I think this is a really important thing to think about - who gains what from this public argument? who is spreading fear? who is really at risk.

 

When you look at the cold statistics, its LGBTQ+ kids that are at most risk. 4X the risk of other kids (https://www.nsvrc.org/blogs/fact-sheet-injustice-lgbtq-community).

 

So if its not straight kids at risk, why is someone trying to scare you?

 

 

Edited September 21, 2023 by Bob Long

[moosehead]

1 hour ago, Inspector BlakeQuinn said:

Kids are encouraged to do this behind parents backs. Don't you get it?

 

Not wanting your children indoctrinated by [removed], ill willed transgenders is not hateful, and protesting it is not a hate rally.

 

Not true at all.  I have 3 teachers in my family, and all tell me this is 100 percent false. 
 

 

[stawns]

Just now, moosehead said:

 

Not true at all.  I have 3 teachers in my family, and all tell me this is 100 percent false. 

I am a teacher and I assure everyone, that's not happening 

[Bob Long]

Just now, stawns said:

I am a teacher and I assure everyone, that's not happening 

 

but I bet you've run into some scared parents. What do you say to them?

[moosehead]

Just now, stawns said:

I am a teacher and I assure everyone, that's not happening 

 

Schools teach tolerance and acceptance.    Sadly,  I think this is offensive to a certain segment in our society.

[Gurn]

Glitch in the matrix- 

post is now redundant

Edited September 21, 2023 by Gurn

[Master Mind]

55 minutes ago, RupertKBD said:

 

Just checked. The paper bag isn't available....

 

....it must be killing him....

Not at all. My favourite emoji is finally back 

[Cerridwen]

1 hour ago, Inspector BlakeQuinn said:

Kids are encouraged to do this behind parents backs. Don't you get it?

 

Not wanting your children indoctrinated by [removed], ill willed transgenders is not hateful, and protesting it is not a hate rally.

 

You are truly a hateful person. People in here.... parents and people in the profession of teaching children.... have done their very best to try and educate you but you are ignoring every effort to do so. I've remained out of this thus far due to my heart-on-my-sleeve fiery way of responding to narrow-mindedness and wilful ignorance but feel compelled to jump in.

WHERE IS YOUR EVIDENCE that kids are being encouraged to 'do this' behind parents backs? Some stupid right wing Karen's fabrication in a Facebook post?? Put up or STFU.

 

 

 

 

[Bob Long]

10 minutes ago, moosehead said:

 

Schools teach tolerance and acceptance.    Sadly,  I think this is offensive to a certain segment in our society.

 

They do. My daughter was very active in her GSA at her high school and we hosted a few events for them at our house. The trans kids we met were literally the least threatening humans I've ever met. 

 

 

Edited September 21, 2023 by Bob Long

[stawns]

3 minutes ago, Bob Long said:

 

but I bet you've run into some scared parents. What do you say to them?

We're a community school, in the sense that we don't have busses.....everyone walks or rides bikes to school and that brings a certain familiarity and security within our community.  Parents are on the grounds before and after school and interact with teachers and admin regularly.  

 

Any fear comes from worrying about the parents who stand on the sidewalk and yell "groomer" at us while we do supervision.

 

We had one parent, during covid" screaming "murderers" at us because of masks.

[Bob Long]

1 minute ago, stawns said:

We're a community school, in the sense that we don't have busses.....everyone walks or rides bikes to school and that brings a certain familiarity and security within our community.  Parents are on the grounds before and after school and interact with teachers and admin regularly.  

 

Any fear comes from worrying about the parents who stand on the sidewalk and yell "groomer" at us while we do supervision.

 

We had one parent, during covid" screaming "murderers" at us because of masks.

 

man this topic really engages the lizard brain fear centre. 

[stawns]

1 minute ago, Bob Long said:

 

man this topic really engages the lizard brain fear centre. 

And I don't get it.  Even if you don't support it, you should at least support a person's right to be who they want to be.  Same with abortion......you don't need to support abortion to support a person's right to do what they want with their body.

[RupertKBD]

43 minutes ago, Bob Long said:

 

the way you are framing this just isn't true. Where are you hearing this? 

 

37 minutes ago, Inspector BlakeQuinn said:

There are stories of this happening all over the continent. A simple Google search...

 

Translation: "The Internet"....

[Gurn]

Having spent time working in various aged schools I will say that all this angst is strictly a parents issue.

No kid that I met in a year of doing janitorial cares about whether someone is gay, trans or straight- unless they are angling for a date.

 

 

 

[Bob Long]

2 minutes ago, stawns said:

And I don't get it.  Even if you don't support it, you should at least support a person's right to be who they want to be.  Same with abortion......you don't need to support abortion to support a person's right to do what they want with their body.

 

"someone is out to get your kid" - engages every parent instantly. Some to the point where it's hard to think straight. 

 

I don't think this is a topic where we can yell our way out of it, people who have been freaked out by the messaging need to be engaged with, imo, if they are willing to talk. 

[stawns]

2 minutes ago, Bob Long said:

 

"someone is out to get your kid" - engages every parent instantly. Some to the point where it's hard to think straight. 

 

I don't think this is a topic where we can yell our way out of it, people who have been freaked out by the messaging need to be engaged with, imo, if they are willing to talk. 

Well, with all due respect, I don't think it'll be teachers engaging these people.  We're sick to death of being attacked and we're fed up

[Canuck Surfer]

1 hour ago, Inspector BlakeQuinn said:

You're completely missing the boat here.  It's so much more than teaching.

 

Parents are being kept in the dark.

 

Kids should never be encouraged to take hormone therapy 

 

What if it were your child who was uncomfortable in their body?

 

Lets also be honest. Kids are not learning about Hormone Therapy in elementary school. They may learn about people's prejudices in many places.

[Canuck Surfer]

On 9/19/2023 at 7:44 AM, Bob Long said:

damn, this could get tense. Explains why the G20 trip was awkward.

 

Trudeau says ‘credible allegations’ link Indian government to killing on Canadian soil

CNN — 

There are “credible allegations” linking India’s government to the assassination of a Canadian citizen and prominent Sikh leader, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau alleged on Monday.

“Over the past number of weeks, Canadian security agencies have been actively pursuing credible allegations of a potential link between agents of the government of India and the killing of a Canadian citizen Hardeep Singh Nijjar,” said Trudeau, adding his government would take all steps necessary ‘“to hold perpetrators of this murder to account.”

Nijjar was a prominent Sikh leader in British Columbia, and according to local police, he was gunned down in his truck in June by two masked gunmen outside a Sikh temple in Surrey, BC.

 

His death both shocked and outraged the large Sikh community in Canada that now numbers in the hundreds of thousands.

India designated Niijar a terrorist threat several years ago, labeling him part of a separatist movement for Sikhism.

“Canada has declared its deep concerns to the top intelligence and security officials of the Indian government. Last week, at the G20, I brought them personally and directly to Prime Minister Modi in no uncertain terms. any involvement of a foreign government in the killing of a Canadian citizen on Canadian soil is an unacceptable violation of our sovereignty,” said Trudeau during his speech in parliament, saying this was an ‘extremely serious matter.’

Canadian police have not arrested anyone in connection with Niijar’s murder, but in an August update, police released a statement saying they were now investigating three possible suspects and issued a description of a possible getaway vehicle, asking for the public’s help.

CNN has reached out to the High Commission of India in Ottawa for comment but has not received a reply.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/18/americas/canada-hardeep-singh-nijjar-india-intl/index.html

 

 

Here is an excellent interview with someone presenting a perspective for both Punjabi and many specific minorities in India.

 

 

[Alflives]

1 hour ago, Inspector BlakeQuinn said:

You're completely missing the boat here.  It's so much more than teaching.

 

Parents are being kept in the dark.

 

Kids should never be encouraged to take hormone therapy 

Absolutely agree. Of course that shouldn’t happen. But is that what today was about? Wasn’t today about acceptance of others, especially those of marginalized communities? I’m wondering if you might be conflating two different things here? 

[stawns]

Just now, Alflives said:

Absolutely agree. Of course that shouldn’t happen. But is that what today was about? Wasn’t today about acceptance of others, especially those of marginalized communities? I’m wondering if you might be conflating two different things here? 

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