RupertKBD Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 1 hour ago, bishopshodan said: It migh be tricky when you try to add it to a pie. You have to extract the blood right as the baby is pumping its adrenalin, get the poor thing all scared, thats how you get the super power. You know what's wild? I swear I actually read the above a few years ago ( not the pie part) The best part is that you get Baby Oil as a byproduct..... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted November 9, 2023 Author Share Posted November 9, 2023 11 minutes ago, RupertKBD said: The best part is that you get Baby Oil as a byproduct..... Grind em up…baby powder. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupertKBD Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 Just now, Sharpshooter said: Grind em up…baby powder. ...and don't get me started on baby Back Ribs.... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6of1_halfdozenofother Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, RupertKBD said: ...and don't get me started on baby Back Ribs.... So, uh, where do baby potatoes and baby corn fit in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupertKBD Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 1 minute ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said: So, uh, where do baby potatoes and baby corn fit in? Well those are vegetables, so they come from Republican voters' kids..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted November 9, 2023 Author Share Posted November 9, 2023 16 minutes ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said: So, uh, where do baby potatoes and baby corn fit in? Baby spinach comes from infants born in a vegetative state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 What has happened to this thread? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupertKBD Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 51 minutes ago, Bob Long said: What has happened to this thread? I think everyone got hungry.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, RupertKBD said: I think everyone got hungry.... How about some chocolate milk to wash it an all down? After that, we can call it a Day. Edited November 9, 2023 by King Heffy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/other/elizabeth-may-on-her-stroke-and-lack-of-family-doctor/ar-AA1jBAEs?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=7514433c44f34a02a9af07615c3120ae&ei=26 " Elizabeth May was standing on the University of Victoria auditorium stage on June 29, congratulating a recent high school graduate, when a “sudden, unbearable, excruciating pain” hit her, like someone had “hit the side of my head with a two-by-four.” “It felt like my head was going to split in two,” the leader of the Green Party of Canada told The Tyee. May’s assistant helped get her home and gave her some Tylenol, worried she might be experiencing a migraine. The pain was so bad, May said, she couldn’t see straight. She was “violently ill,” so she took a COVID test, which was negative, and went to bed and slept for 24 hours. She’d been working 51 days in a row, often churning through 19-hour days leading up to Parliament’s summer recess. At first, her husband thought she was just exhausted. It would be six days before May saw a doctor, and not until she was discharged from hospital that she learned she’d had a hemorrhagic stroke. A hemorrhagic stroke occurs when an artery bleeds or bursts in your brain. It is less common than an ischemic stroke, which occurs when a blood clot restricts blood flow to the brain. May, who is 69, hasn’t had a family doctor since her last doctor retired eight years ago. It used to be that when a doctor retired, they’d refer you to a new physician, she said. Now you sit on a wait-list, as she and her husband have for the last five years, and hope you can be connected with a new family doctor. Around one million British Columbians don’t have a family doctor. Being a federal party leader doesn’t offer a “fast track” when it comes to public health, May said. “I have to wait like everyone else.” Because she hasn’t had a doctor for so long, May said, she doesn’t know what caused her stroke or if there were warning signs. May said she now knows she has extremely high blood pressure, but she doesn’t know if that caused the stroke or is a result of it. After May had slept for several days and was still experiencing impaired vision, her husband called 811 to speak with a nurse, who connected them with a doctor over the phone. The doctor recommended they go to Victoria General Hospital and said he’d call ahead so they could skip the emergency room lineup. But when they arrived no one was expecting them, and after five hours in the waiting room, May asked her husband to take her back home so she could sleep. A friend then recommended booking a walk-in appointment at a Shoreline Medical Society clinic. When May finally met with a doctor there on July 5, they sent her directly to Saanich Peninsula Hospital, where she was immediately admitted. She was discharged July 9 and got an MRI on Aug. 5. The MRI confirmed she’d had a hemorrhagic stroke. “There was a fair bit of time of not knowing,” May said. The doctor she met at Shoreline Medical has become her family doctor, May said. “He called me and said, ‘You need to know how lucky you are. You could have died but you didn’t. It doesn’t look like there’s any damage; you just need to rest and recover,’” she said. May said she doesn’t seem to be suffering from any lasting effects of the stroke, reporting her mood, health, energy and physical and mental well-being to be high. It shouldn’t take having a stroke to get a family doctor in Canada, May said. Her husband, John, who is 76, still doesn’t have a family doctor. May’s ideas on how to fix public health May has some ideas for how to fix public health so other Canadians don’t have to go through the same thing she did. She’d like to see a nurse’s station established at Parliament to check the blood pressure and vitals of MPs as they work long, stressful hours with little sleep. At the federal level, she’d like to see the government ask for “accountability” about how provinces and territories spend their Canada Health Transfer payments. May points to a Globe and Mail column by Andrew Coyne in which he calculated that federal transfer payments rose by 50 per cent per capita, after inflation, over the past two decades, while hospital wait times increased by 50 per cent over the same period. Money provided by the federal government for health care doesn’t have to get spent on health care, May said, adding the money is occasionally spent on tax cuts, for example. This is a critique repeated in Coyne’s column. She’d also like to see the federal government crack down on private health-care services. “Walmart, Telus telehealth — anything that offers health care to Canadians for money is a threat to public health that shouldn’t be allowed,” May said. When contacted to respond to these critiques, Mark Johnson, a spokesperson for Health Canada and the Public Health Agency of Canada, said provinces and territories are already required to report on their health care under the Canada Health Act Extra-billing and User Charges Information Regulations. Provinces and territories are also required to meet criteria and conditions for hospital and physician services under the Canada Health Act to get their “full” Canada Health Transfer funding, he said. The federal government’s role in health care is one of support more than management, Johnson added. But work is being done across the country to increase the number of training seats for physicians, nurse practitioners and nurses, including adding new medical schools at Simon Fraser University, Toronto Metropolitan University and the University of Prince Edward Island. Johnson said that last month federal, provincial and territorial ministers of health and mental health and addictions met in Prince Edward Island and committed to a study looking at how to meet future health-care demands over the next decade. At the provincial level, May said she’d like to reduce bureaucratic spending and increase investments to bolster the local health-care workforce. A lack of residencies and funding for training hospitals means young Canadian doctors are having to go to school or work internationally because there are no jobs for them here, she said. B.C. Health Minister Adrian Dix pushed back against that claim. Right now 80 per cent of B.C.’s medical graduates stay in the province, he told The Tyee, compared with Alberta, which holds on to 60 per cent of its graduates. Around 20 per cent of medical graduates from Alberta come to practise in B.C., and around eight per cent of B.C. graduates go to Alberta. B.C. is also making “significant” changes to “the ways we pay physicians, train and retain them,” Dix said. Over the past five years, Dix said, the University of British Columbia has added 60 new postgraduate medical education positions in family medicine, cancer, surgery, maternity, seniors care and mental health and addiction, and this year it is adding 30 new positions for family medicine and 40 new undergraduate medical school seats. By 2028 there will be 48 new postgraduate medical education residency positions, he added. The new Simon Fraser University medical school in Surrey expects to be accepting students by 2026, he said. B.C. has also been working to increase how much it pays doctors. On a personal level, May said she’s going to start taking breaks when she’s tired, rather than trying to push through fatigue. “Going forward, I can still be the hardest-working MP without putting my life at risk,” she said. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 8 hours ago, Gurn said: https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/other/elizabeth-may-on-her-stroke-and-lack-of-family-doctor/ar-AA1jBAEs?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=7514433c44f34a02a9af07615c3120ae&ei=26 " Elizabeth May was standing on the University of Victoria auditorium stage on June 29, congratulating a recent high school graduate, when a “sudden, unbearable, excruciating pain” hit her, like someone had “hit the side of my head with a two-by-four.” “It felt like my head was going to split in two,” the leader of the Green Party of Canada told The Tyee. May’s assistant helped get her home and gave her some Tylenol, worried she might be experiencing a migraine. The pain was so bad, May said, she couldn’t see straight. She was “violently ill,” so she took a COVID test, which was negative, and went to bed and slept for 24 hours. She’d been working 51 days in a row, often churning through 19-hour days leading up to Parliament’s summer recess. At first, her husband thought she was just exhausted. It would be six days before May saw a doctor, and not until she was discharged from hospital that she learned she’d had a hemorrhagic stroke. A hemorrhagic stroke occurs when an artery bleeds or bursts in your brain. It is less common than an ischemic stroke, which occurs when a blood clot restricts blood flow to the brain. May, who is 69, hasn’t had a family doctor since her last doctor retired eight years ago. It used to be that when a doctor retired, they’d refer you to a new physician, she said. Now you sit on a wait-list, as she and her husband have for the last five years, and hope you can be connected with a new family doctor. Around one million British Columbians don’t have a family doctor. Being a federal party leader doesn’t offer a “fast track” when it comes to public health, May said. “I have to wait like everyone else.” Because she hasn’t had a doctor for so long, May said, she doesn’t know what caused her stroke or if there were warning signs. May said she now knows she has extremely high blood pressure, but she doesn’t know if that caused the stroke or is a result of it. After May had slept for several days and was still experiencing impaired vision, her husband called 811 to speak with a nurse, who connected them with a doctor over the phone. The doctor recommended they go to Victoria General Hospital and said he’d call ahead so they could skip the emergency room lineup. But when they arrived no one was expecting them, and after five hours in the waiting room, May asked her husband to take her back home so she could sleep. A friend then recommended booking a walk-in appointment at a Shoreline Medical Society clinic. When May finally met with a doctor there on July 5, they sent her directly to Saanich Peninsula Hospital, where she was immediately admitted. She was discharged July 9 and got an MRI on Aug. 5. The MRI confirmed she’d had a hemorrhagic stroke. “There was a fair bit of time of not knowing,” May said. The doctor she met at Shoreline Medical has become her family doctor, May said. “He called me and said, ‘You need to know how lucky you are. You could have died but you didn’t. It doesn’t look like there’s any damage; you just need to rest and recover,’” she said. May said she doesn’t seem to be suffering from any lasting effects of the stroke, reporting her mood, health, energy and physical and mental well-being to be high. It shouldn’t take having a stroke to get a family doctor in Canada, May said. Her husband, John, who is 76, still doesn’t have a family doctor. May’s ideas on how to fix public health May has some ideas for how to fix public health so other Canadians don’t have to go through the same thing she did. She’d like to see a nurse’s station established at Parliament to check the blood pressure and vitals of MPs as they work long, stressful hours with little sleep. At the federal level, she’d like to see the government ask for “accountability” about how provinces and territories spend their Canada Health Transfer payments. May points to a Globe and Mail column by Andrew Coyne in which he calculated that federal transfer payments rose by 50 per cent per capita, after inflation, over the past two decades, while hospital wait times increased by 50 per cent over the same period. Money provided by the federal government for health care doesn’t have to get spent on health care, May said, adding the money is occasionally spent on tax cuts, for example. This is a critique repeated in Coyne’s column. She’d also like to see the federal government crack down on private health-care services. “Walmart, Telus telehealth — anything that offers health care to Canadians for money is a threat to public health that shouldn’t be allowed,” May said. When contacted to respond to these critiques, Mark Johnson, a spokesperson for Health Canada and the Public Health Agency of Canada, said provinces and territories are already required to report on their health care under the Canada Health Act Extra-billing and User Charges Information Regulations. Provinces and territories are also required to meet criteria and conditions for hospital and physician services under the Canada Health Act to get their “full” Canada Health Transfer funding, he said. The federal government’s role in health care is one of support more than management, Johnson added. But work is being done across the country to increase the number of training seats for physicians, nurse practitioners and nurses, including adding new medical schools at Simon Fraser University, Toronto Metropolitan University and the University of Prince Edward Island. Johnson said that last month federal, provincial and territorial ministers of health and mental health and addictions met in Prince Edward Island and committed to a study looking at how to meet future health-care demands over the next decade. At the provincial level, May said she’d like to reduce bureaucratic spending and increase investments to bolster the local health-care workforce. A lack of residencies and funding for training hospitals means young Canadian doctors are having to go to school or work internationally because there are no jobs for them here, she said. B.C. Health Minister Adrian Dix pushed back against that claim. Right now 80 per cent of B.C.’s medical graduates stay in the province, he told The Tyee, compared with Alberta, which holds on to 60 per cent of its graduates. Around 20 per cent of medical graduates from Alberta come to practise in B.C., and around eight per cent of B.C. graduates go to Alberta. B.C. is also making “significant” changes to “the ways we pay physicians, train and retain them,” Dix said. Over the past five years, Dix said, the University of British Columbia has added 60 new postgraduate medical education positions in family medicine, cancer, surgery, maternity, seniors care and mental health and addiction, and this year it is adding 30 new positions for family medicine and 40 new undergraduate medical school seats. By 2028 there will be 48 new postgraduate medical education residency positions, he added. The new Simon Fraser University medical school in Surrey expects to be accepting students by 2026, he said. B.C. has also been working to increase how much it pays doctors. On a personal level, May said she’s going to start taking breaks when she’s tired, rather than trying to push through fatigue. “Going forward, I can still be the hardest-working MP without putting my life at risk,” she said. Most Canadians should realize by now that health care is being rationed. The reality is that it has to be I guess. When we interact with health care system there is good and bad. My wife has a problem that has her GP and a specialist involved. I am not comfortable being the lead support person in her treatment so our son stepped up and is already a health professional. As per usual appointments are often by phone. What shocks me is that neither of these doctors had a phone system that allowed our son to participate on line. We have to use a social media platform and put the phone on audio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Boudrias said: Most Canadians should realize by now that health care is being rationed. The reality is that it has to be I guess. When we interact with health care system there is good and bad. My wife has a problem that has her GP and a specialist involved. I am not comfortable being the lead support person in her treatment so our son stepped up and is already a health professional. As per usual appointments are often by phone. What shocks me is that neither of these doctors had a phone system that allowed our son to participate on line. We have to use a social media platform and put the phone on audio. It is left up to the gp re: level of connectivity they use. There is no standardization. Part of it I think is how they are paid, basically independent contractors. I'm sorry May had that experience but imo she's way off on things like Telus health. If she had used that service earlier it could have helped her avoid a stroke. It doesn't matter how you access care as long as everyone gets a similar level of service. Expecting government to be both payer and sole provider is where things go off the rails in Canada. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupertKBD Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 41 minutes ago, Boudrias said: Most Canadians should realize by now that health care is being rationed. The reality is that it has to be I guess. When we interact with health care system there is good and bad. My wife has a problem that has her GP and a specialist involved. I am not comfortable being the lead support person in her treatment so our son stepped up and is already a health professional. As per usual appointments are often by phone. What shocks me is that neither of these doctors had a phone system that allowed our son to participate on line. We have to use a social media platform and put the phone on audio. This is something I've noticed as well. Doctors still regularly send prescriptions by fax....they don't have an office email or any kind of a web presence.... My GP still uses a blood pressure machine that you wheel over and pump up by hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6of1_halfdozenofother Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 2 hours ago, RupertKBD said: they don't have an office email or any kind of a web presence.... I think this is intentional. My physician's clinic has a website that allows for booking appointments, but good luck trying to get a hold of anyone by e-mail; they refuse it, and with good reason. If everyone could e-mail anything to the physician or their staff, they'd be inundated with meaningless messages that they wouldn't be able to charge for, and messages that have important content, but still be unable to charge the government for them. Besides, e-mail is not really that secure a means to be sending medical details over anyways. My wife (who until recently was waitlisted for her own doctor) has a portal that she can send messages to her physician, and it's supposedly "secure" with all sorts of encryption and security measures in place, but it's also very constrained in terms of what she can send and how frequently she can send. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the destroyer of worlds Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 4 hours ago, Boudrias said: Most Canadians should realize by now that health care is being rationed. The reality is that it has to be I guess. When we interact with health care system there is good and bad. My wife has a problem that has her GP and a specialist involved. I am not comfortable being the lead support person in her treatment so our son stepped up and is already a health professional. As per usual appointments are often by phone. What shocks me is that neither of these doctors had a phone system that allowed our son to participate on line. We have to use a social media platform and put the phone on audio. Healthcare gets rationed regardless of the system that is used. Triage is a thing. Even the US has significant rationing in their system, so you can't blame our shortcomings entirely on our system being Government run. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupertKBD Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 57 minutes ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said: I think this is intentional. My physician's clinic has a website that allows for booking appointments, but good luck trying to get a hold of anyone by e-mail; they refuse it, and with good reason. If everyone could e-mail anything to the physician or their staff, they'd be inundated with meaningless messages that they wouldn't be able to charge for, and messages that have important content, but still be unable to charge the government for them. Besides, e-mail is not really that secure a means to be sending medical details over anyways. My wife (who until recently was waitlisted for her own doctor) has a portal that she can send messages to her physician, and it's supposedly "secure" with all sorts of encryption and security measures in place, but it's also very constrained in terms of what she can send and how frequently she can send. Yeah, I'm talking more about emailing prescriptions to pharmacies and sending out "Do not Reply" emails (or texts) to patients as reminders for appointments etc. Most places I know of still have a receptionist calling with reminders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6of1_halfdozenofother Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 8 minutes ago, RupertKBD said: Yeah, I'm talking more about emailing prescriptions to pharmacies and sending out "Do not Reply" emails (or texts) to patients as reminders for appointments etc. Most places I know of still have a receptionist calling with reminders. Same idea though - if patients get hold of a respondable e-mail address, good luck to the clinic staff/physician in getting anything done. And also the security factor. How can a pharmacy confirm that an e-mail they've received is legit? How can they ensure that the e-mail delivery process is secure and won't inadvertently have the contents leaked/forwarded/sniffed? I mean, the verification part is still problematic with faxes, but at least it's mostly secure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 (edited) On 11/4/2023 at 1:14 PM, Spring Salmon said: You're pushing something and you know it. If he was a conservative you wouldn't be so forgiving. What does abortion and the good book have to do with anything. I'm not religious at all. The same people bending over backwards to defend this guy would be the ones screaming the loudest if it was trump or someone else on the right The difference is Trump's shenanigans is the here and now. Had Trump done a few bad things 2001-2004 but then suddenly turned around and became the opposite of who he is now, the same would have been able to be said about him. You're making this to be about left vs right when it really isn't nor should it be. There are people out there who have turned their lives around who will likely be a better fit for some of these jobs than either you or me. Why? Because they have the experience of being on the other side. This isn't to say what he did was good by any means, but it is to say that someone who learns from that to become the better person... that's not nothing and it shouldn't be discounted. Edited November 10, 2023 by The Lock 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RupertKBD Posted November 12, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 12, 2023 It's not often that I share the opinion of someone from Edmonton, but here we are....letter to the editor from the Edmonton Sun: REMEMBER SACRIFICES That last several years we have been hearing about Canadian Legions struggling to make ends meet. With rising prices because of carbon taxes, mandatory federal beer taxes increases yearly, municipal taxes going up etc. If we don’t do something for them they will all disappear and that would be inexcusable. They are very important part of our Canadian identity. I think that all Legions across this great country should all be tax exempt from all taxes. If the governments can give tax exemptions to Churches, then this same exemption can and should be given to the Canadian Legions. We can’t let a piece of our heritage disappear. Everybody’s grandparents did something to help in one of the great wars and the Legions are here to help future generations remember what the wars were and the sacrifice that Canadians made. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4petesake Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 1 hour ago, RupertKBD said: It's not often that I share the opinion of someone from Edmonton, but here we are....letter to the editor from the Edmonton Sun: REMEMBER SACRIFICES That last several years we have been hearing about Canadian Legions struggling to make ends meet. With rising prices because of carbon taxes, mandatory federal beer taxes increases yearly, municipal taxes going up etc. If we don’t do something for them they will all disappear and that would be inexcusable. They are very important part of our Canadian identity. I think that all Legions across this great country should all be tax exempt from all taxes. If the governments can give tax exemptions to Churches, then this same exemption can and should be given to the Canadian Legions. We can’t let a piece of our heritage disappear. Everybody’s grandparents did something to help in one of the great wars and the Legions are here to help future generations remember what the wars were and the sacrifice that Canadians made. Side note to this is for all the hoo-haw we heard about the Libs not allowing Christian services to be part of Remembrance Day celebrations turned out to be all foam and no beer as expected. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 41 minutes ago, 4petesake said: Side note to this is for all the hoo-haw we heard about the Libs not allowing Christian services to be part of Remembrance Day celebrations turned out to be all foam and no beer as expected. You mean Poilievre lied? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spur1 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 30 minutes ago, Bob Long said: You mean Poilievre lied? Say it isn’t so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 21 hours ago, 4petesake said: Side note to this is for all the hoo-haw we heard about the Libs not allowing Christian services to be part of Remembrance Day celebrations turned out to be all foam and no beer as expected. Wait, that was a thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4petesake Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Warhippy said: Wait, that was a thing? Somebody posted that Trudeau gripe a few weeks ago, I believe in this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, 4petesake said: Somebody posted that Trudeau gripe a few weeks ago, I believe in this thread. Oh of course that's a thing. I forgot who we're dealing with Meanwhile, back to the veterans for the war on Christmas 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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