Shift-4 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 6 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: Maybe we should all tone down on the racist and Nazi bs. It's always been a lazy and inflammatory way to say 'I don't like your view.' Or worse 'I don't understand you'. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupertKBD Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 45 minutes ago, Boudrias said: I don't think Trudeau is racist either. Disparaging CPC leaders is standard on here and in media as well. That is life in a left of center Canada. We'll probably never agree on this B, but for me, Pollievre deserves disparaging. The fact that he stood behind the Ottawa blockade crowd ensured that he would never get my vote. As I have pointed out several times before, if the Conservatives were running someone like Rona, I could vote for her and it wouldn't weigh on my conscience one iota.... 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6of1_halfdozenofother Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 24 minutes ago, Bob Long said: its always fun to point and yell 'hypocrisy' on the internet. I think that why it was invented. 18 minutes ago, bishopshodan said: Probably...and sarcasm And here I thought it was for all those newbie programmers to send their "Hello, world" program output to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 22 minutes ago, RupertKBD said: We'll probably never agree on this B, but for me, Pollievre deserves disparaging. The fact that he stood behind the Ottawa blockade crowd ensured that he would never get my vote. As I have pointed out several times before, if the Conservatives were running someone like Rona, I could vote for her and it wouldn't weigh on my conscience one iota.... me too, I could easily see an Ambrose government running a very reasonable platform that would be easy to vote for. PP just brings out the worst in people. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 6 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: For the record, I don’t think Justin Trudeau is a racist either. The reason I bring up his blackface is always as a counterpoint to the posters who keep claiming PP is a racist and a Nazi. Posters? Pretty much one poster AFAIK, not in fact everyone centre-left. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupertKBD Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 3 minutes ago, aGENT said: Posters? Pretty much one poster AFAIK, not in fact everyone centre-left. Yep. In fact, I'd bet the mortgage that there are more posters bringing up blackface than there are calling PP a Nazi..... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 6 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: I agree. Me and TAW don’t see eye to eye on some things, but I don’t think he is a racist or said anything in a racist way. The most important thing in all of this is for people to understand that blackface was racist 30 years ago and it is racist now. I think that is Miss Korea’s main point. For the record, I don’t think Justin Trudeau is a racist either. The reason I bring up his blackface is always as a counterpoint to the posters who keep claiming PP is a racist and a Nazi. Maybe we should all tone down on the racist and Nazi bs. It doesn’t help in any discussions on here. I’ll be the first one to never use those words again in here… I'll consider it when the cons ditch PP and denazify their party. Until then, PP has shown no sign that he's willing to cut out his bigotry and it's important that people realize just how evil he truly is. There's no excuse for treating PP with any respect or pretending his racism is acceptable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 10 minutes ago, aGENT said: Posters? Pretty much one poster AFAIK, not in fact everyone centre-left. I used to vote PC before the merger with the pity party. I vote Liberal since then because its still the most centre option. The CPC base just keeps picking people I can't support, its just that simple. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 56 minutes ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said: And here I thought it was for all those newbie programmers to send their "Hello, world" program output to. Whatever is was , I think we owe a big thank you to Al Gore. See Jim-Bob...../s 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Shift-4 Posted January 12 Popular Post Share Posted January 12 2 minutes ago, bishopshodan said: Whatever is was , I think we owe a big thank you to Al Gore. I read that as A.I. Gore It's all coming full circle now 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 54 minutes ago, RupertKBD said: We'll probably never agree on this B, but for me, Pollievre deserves disparaging. The fact that he stood behind the Ottawa blockade crowd ensured that he would never get my vote. As I have pointed out several times before, if the Conservatives were running someone like Rona, I could vote for her and it wouldn't weigh on my conscience one iota.... No we won't agree on politics. Hockey? Check. I gave my son a mini Stanley Cup to bury with me if the occasion arose. My grand daughters made me a coffee cup with Canuck colours and then added tears. Well I enjoy the cup every morning and have told my son to return the CUP as I now think my Canucks will win a legit CUP before his Oilers. PP does talk about his platform whether well received or not. Failing that the CPC does have a web site that details their platform. What upsets me the most about politics these days is how top down it has become across all political parties. Party leadership would rather issue positions on social media and poll for opinions than engage with citizens. IMHO that is very dangerous over the long term. As a fiscal conservative I think politicians have to lead which means hard decisions on how money is spent. That isn't happening today. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 1 hour ago, King Heffy said: I'll consider it when the cons ditch PP and denazify their party. Until then, PP has shown no sign that he's willing to cut out his bigotry and it's important that people realize just how evil he truly is. There's no excuse for treating PP with any respect or pretending his racism is acceptable. Nobody expected you to change your tone around here. But as long as the rest of the group is doing so then at least we can narrow down the rhetoric to one outlier poster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Ravioli Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 2 hours ago, King Heffy said: I'll consider it when the cons ditch PP and denazify their party. Until then, PP has shown no sign that he's willing to cut out his bigotry and it's important that people realize just how evil he truly is. There's no excuse for treating PP with any respect or pretending his racism is acceptable. You just love to throw as many buzz words at the wall to see what sticks don't you? You have no idea how absolutely insane you sound. With opinions like this, it's impossible for me to take anything you saye even remotely seriously Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 2 hours ago, bishopshodan said: Whatever is was , I think we owe a big thank you to Al Gore. See Jim-Bob...../s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 18 minutes ago, Bob Long said: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ricky Ravioli said: You just love to throw as many buzz words at the wall to see what sticks don't you? You have no idea how absolutely insane you sound. With opinions like this, it's impossible for me to take anything you saye even remotely seriously I can guarantee I am saner than the vermin the Cons think is an acceptable option for PM. Please explain why you think PP has shown he's capable of acting like civilized human being? Edited January 12 by King Heffy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 1 hour ago, Elias Pettersson said: Nobody expected you to change your tone around here. But as long as the rest of the group is doing so then at least we can narrow down the rhetoric to one outlier poster. Ummm... "Narrow it down"? 3 hours ago, aGENT said: Posters? Pretty much one poster AFAIK, not in fact everyone centre-left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 4 minutes ago, aGENT said: Ummm... "Narrow it down"? Counting higher than 1 is not a strength of the average PP supporter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ricky Ravioli said: You just love to throw as many buzz words at the wall to see what sticks don't you? You have no idea how absolutely insane you sound. With opinions like this, it's impossible for me to take anything you saye even remotely seriously Well, many people do see PPs support of things like so-called parents rights as quite bigoted. It's a pretty easy argument to back up, given that whole thing comes out of the US evangelism movement. It doesn't get much more bigoted than those folks. Edited January 12 by Bob Long 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggums Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Bob Long said: Well, many people do see PPs support of things like so-called parents rights as quite bigoted. It's a pretty easy argument to back up, given that whole thing comes out of the US evangelism movement. It doesn't get much more bigoted than those folks. This is where we're at in 2024 due to far left liberal progressiveness Something known as "parents rights" is now classified as bigoted. Schools don't even refer to students as "girls" or "boys" anymore and children are allowed to pump themselves full of hormones without consent. No insane person who thinks this is okay will ever get my vote Edited January 12 by Wiggums 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Ravioli Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 23 minutes ago, Bob Long said: Well, many people do see PPs support of things like so-called parents rights as quite bigoted. It's a pretty easy argument to back up, given that whole thing comes out of the US evangelism movement. It doesn't get much more bigoted than those folks. Like that's just your opinion man? I don't believe for a second that anything he has said is bigoted at all. “If I were to create a political party from scratch, it would be called the ‘mind your own damn business party.’ People can make the decisions of who they marry, who they date, how they live their lives, but also how they raise their kids,” said Poilievre, who said that was roughly the Liberal party’s point of view 25 years ago. “That’s why my role as a prime minister, is not going to be to impose my values on other people. It’s to get out of their faces and run a competent government,” said Poilievre. https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/poilievre-doubles-down-on-parental-rights-pitches-disaffected-ndpers-in-rex-murphys-year-end-national-post-interview Parents have a right to know what's going on in their child's classroom. That doesn't mean I agree with the extremists who think anything trans related needs to be gone. Just parents have a right to a say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 10 minutes ago, Ricky Ravioli said: Like that's just your opinion man? I don't believe for a second that anything he has said is bigoted at all. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/tory-mp-defends-use-of-term-tar-baby-1.837347 So you think this is ok? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 12 minutes ago, Ricky Ravioli said: Like that's just your opinion man? I don't believe for a second that anything he has said is bigoted at all. “If I were to create a political party from scratch, it would be called the ‘mind your own damn business party.’ People can make the decisions of who they marry, who they date, how they live their lives, but also how they raise their kids,” said Poilievre, who said that was roughly the Liberal party’s point of view 25 years ago. “That’s why my role as a prime minister, is not going to be to impose my values on other people. It’s to get out of their faces and run a competent government,” said Poilievre. https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/poilievre-doubles-down-on-parental-rights-pitches-disaffected-ndpers-in-rex-murphys-year-end-national-post-interview But that's not what he does in practice 12 minutes ago, Ricky Ravioli said: Parents have a right to know what's going on in their child's classroom. That doesn't mean I agree with the extremists who think anything trans related needs to be gone. Just parents have a right to a say No that's the bs fear part. He's just going to hurt kids . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 20 minutes ago, Wiggums said: This is where we're at in 2024 due to far left liberal progressiveness Something known as "parents rights" is now classified as bigoted. Schools don't even refer to students as "girls" or "boys" anymore and children are allowed to pump themselves full of hormones without consent. No insane person who thinks this is okay will ever get my vote If you would like I can show you where this all comes from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggums Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 2 minutes ago, King Heffy said: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/tory-mp-defends-use-of-term-tar-baby-1.837347 So you think this is ok? Uh yeah, look up the definition. Do you think kids going in for hormone pills without their parents knowing is okay? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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