aGENT Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Just now, Sharpshooter said: Let’s move on. No point milking the tree’s teat when it’s ran out of orange juice. Or something like that. That's where orange juice comes from.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 4 minutes ago, Wiggums said: K Last time. I don't care about any article that's been posted, like okay I posted a.shit article, ya got me, sure. Once again you're just butting in, reading into things and acting emotionally. Literally the only point I've been trying to make the whole time is that you don't need a parent's consent to get the blockers.. why is this so difficult? Absolute madness A child does not need parental consent to get medical treatment here in Canada. If they are deemed "capable" and understand the need, the process, and of course the consequences (of both getting the treatment or NOT getting it), then yes. That has been the law in BC for years. But without parental consent, it's hard as fuck. It must get approved by a medical board. It must be approved by a child welfare officer. Beyond that, do you understand how hard is it to get proper medical treatment here in Canada? Would you describe our health care system as... fast and efficient? Isn't everyone here on some kind of of 5-year wait list for the appropriate medical treatment we want/need? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 3 minutes ago, RupertKBD said: You start at Major.....then you can go to video review and downgrade it to Minor, if necessary.... You just insulted all of Sweden… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted January 13 Author Share Posted January 13 41 minutes ago, Yoshiyoshi said: Funny you should say that. I know a gay man who just came out as trans. It seemed to be a big deal to them that they worried over how people would react. She wanted to be a girl but not wait in long bathroom lineups at venues. Win-win for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted January 13 Author Share Posted January 13 11 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Depends on the definition of minor. Seems childish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggums Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 7 minutes ago, Warhippy said: Again incorrect Consent is not the wheelhouse of JUST the parents. As noted in the law I posted, a medical professional must be present for the initial examination and approve this ONLY after the government seems the child in question a "mature minor" and even then the child in question must pass an extreme medical and mental health screening to be considered mature enough to begins therapy with drugs/hormones. So while at the most extreme end of things you can make that claim, it isn't true to the actual process at all. I never said they didn't need doctor or government consent... Literally all I said was the child doesn't need their parents consent.. why is this so painfully hard? Let's make this easy. Does a child need a parent's consent to take hormone blockers. Yes or no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupertKBD Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 1 minute ago, Elias Pettersson said: You just insulted all of Sweden… Then my work here is done..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggums Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 2 minutes ago, Miss Korea said: A child does not need parental consent to get medical treatment here in Canada. If they are deemed "capable" and understand the need, the process, and of course the consequences (of both getting the treatment or NOT getting it), then yes. That has been the law in BC for years. But without parental consent, it's hard as fuck. It must get approved by a medical board. It must be approved by a child welfare officer. Beyond that, do you understand how hard is it to get proper medical treatment here in Canada? Would you describe our health care system as... fast and efficient? Isn't everyone here on some kind of of 5-year wait list for the appropriate medical treatment we want/need? Thank yoouu finnallyyyyy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Just now, aGENT said: Exactly. That's literally all SOGI is about. Supporting kids in a safe environment to safely explore who they are while encouraging acceptance/minimizing bullying for everyone regardless of their sex, race, gender, gender identity, sexual preferences etc. How horrifying! Saw in the news (before Christmas) there were people protesting SOGI outside some schools. What kind of a sick bastard protests outside a school for one? And then add to that protesting against children who are in those SOGI things? Old Alf don’t get that stuff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Who said I was speaking for everyone? And why are you posting a Wikipedia page about Hitler in reference to my post? This you? Oh, and it was a jews for hitler page, not a hitler page. 1 hour ago, Elias Pettersson said: Also, LGBTQ covers a wide variety of situations. Being gay and being trans are two completely different situations. I know lots of gay people who don’t support the trans community. They are not always all lumped together. So who exactly are you referring to? Are you referring to a gay child who has not come out or are you referring to a trans child who wants to change their gender? Story changed a little, no? 35 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: I actually got involved and started taking my clothes off. Wasn’t even drunk as I don’t drink. My gay friends like “men”. That’s why they are gay. Doesn’t mean they don’t support the trans community. They just aren’t interested in it. Edited January 13 by JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted January 13 Author Share Posted January 13 8 minutes ago, Warhippy said: This is a hockey forum sir. Can we address it as 2s and 5s? Call it the instigator clause Toronto is reviewing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted January 13 Author Share Posted January 13 8 minutes ago, RupertKBD said: You start at Major.....then you can go to video review and downgrade it to Minor, if necessary.... Kids are certainly major in one’s life, and then they’re minor. It’s an inverse progression I reckon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter Posted January 13 Author Share Posted January 13 6 minutes ago, aGENT said: That's where orange juice comes from.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6of1_halfdozenofother Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 14 minutes ago, Bob Long said: But the fear mongers make it sound like its as easy as ordering a pizza. I'll have you know that ordering a pizza isn't necessarily easy. I had my order cancelled on me because i wasn't able to go pick it up and they "don't have a delivery guy available". 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 3 minutes ago, Wiggums said: Thank yoouu finnallyyyyy Where the hell were you in 1996 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 17 minutes ago, Wiggums said: K Last time. I don't care about any article that's been posted, like okay I posted a.shit article, ya got me, sure. Once again you're just butting in, reading into things and acting emotionally. Literally the only point I've been trying to make the whole time is that you don't need a parent's consent to get the blockers.. why is this so difficult? Absolute madness I've found in the past that most points will be ignored and people tend to focus solely on the weakest part of the argument. Happened last time I tried discussing this topic. Hard to get an honest conversation going. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 8 minutes ago, Alflives said: Saw in the news (before Christmas) there were people protesting SOGI outside some schools. What kind of a sick bastard protests outside a school for one? And then add to that protesting against children who are in those SOGI things? Old Alf don’t get that stuff. Kindness, understanding and acceptance?! We don't need that crap in our schools!! 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 4 minutes ago, Master Mind said: I've found in the past that most points will be ignored and people tend to focus solely on the weakest part of the argument. Happened last time I tried discussing this topic. Hard to get an honest conversation going. Just bear in mind you are responding to someone who ignored most of the problems with the article and focused solely on the weakest part of that article's argument. Spreading misinformation is not a small problem today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satchmo Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 4 minutes ago, Master Mind said: I've found in the past that most points will be ignored and people tend to focus solely on the weakest part of the argument. I've found that to be true as well. That or people fixate on a few words in a paragraph full of words. Could that be considered a non partisan approach? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 24 minutes ago, Sharpshooter said: Walk in clinics will inject your kids with trans hormones. Stick to the ER where they’ll get the tried and tested gay hormones. As a mod, you are not making this thread easier for me How far can Jimmy go? No one knows. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggums Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 4 minutes ago, Miss Korea said: Where the hell were you in 1996 Jesus H Christ. I've been talking about consent for hormone blockers Don't ever butt in and respond to me again. This is the most painful conversation I've ever experienced. Time to get drunk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Alflives Posted January 13 Popular Post Share Posted January 13 Just now, aGENT said: Kindness, understanding and acceptance?! We don't need that crap in our schools!! Little kids play with pretty much any other little kid. They just play and have fun. They don’t have a built in hatred. It takes ignorant adults to get involved and introduce hate. 1 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 12 minutes ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said: I'll have you know that ordering a pizza isn't necessarily easy. I had my order cancelled on me because i wasn't able to go pick it up and they "don't have a delivery guy available". Probably doing trans stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 1 minute ago, Wiggums said: Jesus H Christ. I've been talking about consent for hormone blockers Don't ever butt in and respond to me again. This is the most painful conversation I've ever experienced. Time to get drunk Hormone blockers isn't medical treatment? Then why the fuck do they have to talk to doctors and medical professionals? WTF? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Posts fake news Gets grilled Makes argument Gets shown the law from 30 years ago Runs away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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