Alflives Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 6 minutes ago, Duodenum said: Country needs Eby at the helm. Give PP his 5 years and then hopefully Eby can come in. He's been amazing for BC. I would vote for him over anybody. Poo Poo ain’t winning nothing. We don’t have a bunch of morans voting like the US does voting for Trumperdoodle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duodenum Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 27 minutes ago, Alflives said: Poo Poo ain’t winning nothing. We don’t have a bunch of morans voting like the US does voting for Trumperdoodle. Sorry Alf, I don't see any other possible outcome. Canadians have had it with Trudeau. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 9 minutes ago, Duodenum said: Sorry Alf, I don't see any other possible outcome. Canadians have had it with Trudeau. Zero chance we have sufficient voters stupid enough to vote for Poo Poo to elect a Con (artist) government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerridwen Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 53 minutes ago, Duodenum said: Sorry Alf, I don't see any other possible outcome. Canadians have had it with Trudeau. Not ALL Canadians... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duodenum Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 54 minutes ago, Cerridwen said: Not ALL Canadians... Sure, they have a 25% share according to polls currently. That'll go up by the time the election comes around, but I see the next election as a walkaway Conservative victory. As someone who usually votes Liberal and NDP in BC, I'm profoundly unimpressed by Trudeau's time in government and impressed by Eby's. Canadians will get reminded of what a conservative government looks like and if PP drops the ball, hopefully a guy like Eby can come in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 2 hours ago, Alflives said: Poo Poo ain’t winning nothing. We don’t have a bunch of morans voting like the US does voting for Trumperdoodle. We may have less.... But we still have a LOT of "morans" here too unfortunately. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spur1 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Not all Canadians want to jump Trudeau. But most really don’t want any thing to do with PP and his negatively. He says Canada is broken. In a way he is right but not the way he thinks. We are broken because we have too many right wing anti vaccine people, too many freedom convoy anti gay clowns. We are all people no matter what and we are all in this together. We all are on the same planet like it or not. Are we going to look after and help each other or are we going to slaughter some like buffalo and beavers? 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 Wonder how many will vote NDP. I know soo many folk that want a change but are having a very hard time looking at PP. They see him similar to Trump and are tired of the negativity. He would do well to change his tune while he has people looking for options. Canada rules. Best country on the planet. Deserves a champ at the helm... we dont need a little, whiny, angry, PP. Would be pretty embarrassing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 14 hours ago, Duodenum said: Sure, they have a 25% share according to polls currently. That'll go up by the time the election comes around, but I see the next election as a walkaway Conservative victory. As someone who usually votes Liberal and NDP in BC, I'm profoundly unimpressed by Trudeau's time in government and impressed by Eby's. Canadians will get reminded of what a conservative government looks like and if PP drops the ball, hopefully a guy like Eby can come in. But...we don't have a conservative party. We have whatever it is masquerading as a conservative style party The last conservative party we had federally was post Mulroney 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duodenum Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 2 hours ago, Warhippy said: But...we don't have a conservative party. We have whatever it is masquerading as a conservative style party The last conservative party we had federally was post Mulroney It's their name. The right-wing parties we talk about here don't really have platforms other than left=bad, give money to rich people, take bribes, and making people emotional about things that don't matter much. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeneedLumme Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 5 hours ago, bishopshodan said: Wonder how many will vote NDP. I know soo many folk that want a change but are having a very hard time looking at PP. They see him similar to Trump and are tired of the negativity. He would do well to change his tune while he has people looking for options. Canada rules. Best country on the planet. Deserves a champ at the helm... we dont need a little, whiny, angry, PP. Would be pretty embarrassing Sadly, as is so often the case, there is nobody to vote for. I can't imagine voting for PP, but voting for the NDP is also repugnant, and Trudeau doesn't deserve another term. What's left, another protest vote for the Greens, who have no chance of forming a government? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 1 minute ago, WeneedLumme said: Sadly, as is so often the case, there is nobody to vote for. I can't imagine voting for PP, but voting for the NDP is also repugnant, and Trudeau doesn't deserve another term. What's left, another protest vote for the Greens, who have no chance of forming a government? I know, but now I cant even do that. The Greens were embarrassing last election. Would like for the NDP to grab a new leader and give it a go. .....I think, I dunno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 29 minutes ago, bishopshodan said: Would like for the NDP to grab a new leader and give it a go. .....I think, I dunno Gregor Robertson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 1 minute ago, Bob Long said: Gregor Robertson? I didn't like him too much. Not so much the bike lanes but how he did it. They started one on my street the very night they were hearing from the public on if it should go ahead. His girlfriend seemed shady and something in my head is telling me I didn't like his handling of the city's real estate. I always thought he was just using Vancouver to boost his own brand. No, someone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 2 minutes ago, bishopshodan said: I didn't like him too much. Not so much the bike lanes but how he did it. They started one on my street the very night they were hearing from the public on if it should go ahead. His girlfriend seemed shady and something in my head is telling me I didn't like his handling of the city's real estate. I always thought he was just using Vancouver to boost his own brand. No, someone else. yea but he's good looking, so he'd win. @Alflives would agree with me on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 6 minutes ago, Bob Long said: yea but he's good looking, so he'd win. @Alflives would agree with me on this one. I havent heard much about that Daniel Blaikie guy lately but I remember him having some solid housing ideas... You know anything about him? would he be an ok choice one day? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6of1_halfdozenofother Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Just now, bishopshodan said: I havent heard much about that Daniel Blaikie guy lately but I remember him having some solid housing ideas... You know anything about him? would he be an ok choice one day? I think the issue with him is that he's not from Lower or Upper Canada, not from the hinterlands of BC, and not from protest-central Alberta. He's from Manitoba, and generally speaking that doesn't work in favour of someone who has PM aspirations. If I could vote for him, I would - but most of the country would probably be: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 2 minutes ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said: I think the issue with him is that he's not from Lower or Upper Canada, not from the hinterlands of BC, and not from protest-central Alberta. He's from Manitoba, and generally speaking that doesn't work in favour of someone who has PM aspirations. If I could vote for him, I would - but most of the country would probably be: I understand. But when it comes to the NDP, I think they might get the 'he's new and not JT' vote. Then, if he can follow up with some real substance, maybe even solutions to things like housing... Maybe he and the NDP will be like ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 51 minutes ago, bishopshodan said: I havent heard much about that Daniel Blaikie guy lately but I remember him having some solid housing ideas... You know anything about him? would he be an ok choice one day? Nope dunno anything about him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4petesake Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 1 hour ago, bishopshodan said: I havent heard much about that Daniel Blaikie guy lately but I remember him having some solid housing ideas... You know anything about him? would he be an ok choice one day? I don’t know a lot about him but someone posted this (maybe in the housing thread) and it’s where he first caught my attention. Very impressive dude so maybe you’re on to something. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupertKBD Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 2 hours ago, WeneedLumme said: Sadly, as is so often the case, there is nobody to vote for. I can't imagine voting for PP, but voting for the NDP is also repugnant, and Trudeau doesn't deserve another term. What's left, another protest vote for the Greens, who have no chance of forming a government? As much as it pains me to think of a Pierre Pollievre government, I generally vote for the guy in my riding who best represents my position. Take Justin, Jag and Pierre out of the equation. They're only the figureheads anyway.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 @Bob Long should we start a fight 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 On 1/20/2024 at 10:39 AM, Sapper said: Millhouse has said as leader all new spending and reduced revenue MUST be off set with spending reductions Axing all carbon tax means off setting cuts in the billions in the budget. Families who currently receive the rebates will have to accept that will.have to be cut. For the average Canadian they will then see little to no over all.benefit with axing the tax. Business is NOT going to reduce their prices to reflect an axed carbon tax. It's frankly terrifying that the con supporters who will be elected out next PM have bought that lie. The check is not in the.mail.and nor will it ever be. I agree that *major corporations aren't going to reduce prices (so long as they are viable in not doing so, which doesn't seem like a problem in our country). But that isn't a sufficient reason to not stop the bleeding in anyway possible. Affordability has only been going in 1 direction under the current suto-progressives (though the global economy certainly plays a role too, tbf). I have no illusion that there's a check coming when PP in office. We will continue to be stolen from at gunpoint under the Cons aswell. On 1/20/2024 at 10:39 AM, Sapper said: Don't get me wrong ... I don't support.thr carbon tax as it doesn't do much more.than fund a shell game to shuffle money. Axing it will not drop inflation , lower consumer.prices and make housing more.afordable. I am fortunate enough to be in an income bracket that means I don't receive gst or carbon rebates. Axing the tax for me would be about 1k more.per year in my pocket which is nice but not going to lead to major lifestyle improvements My kids on the other hand will see a near zero change if they lose their rebates.to pay for the axing of the tax. The potential few bucks more will be a cup a company coffee or ,2 more per week type lifestyle improvement... Not the rainbows and unicorns Millhouse is selling And again ... Look at Alberta when they reduced gas tax recently .... Pump price stayed the same and companies kept that as profit .... The same will happen when Millhouse cuts the carbon tax and anyone believing otherwise is not living in reality And food for thought .... If I go to Bellingham on a day trip to buy clothes I get hit with high duty feed. What if it was the same level.for business that bring completed manufactured items into Canada? Why not set their tax rates based on .where the item is made ,? I have no problem seeing my tax dollars fund deep tax.cuts and incentives for companies that produce their items in.canada with Canadian workers and pay a fair wage. Those workers then pay taxes on that.income.which Is.what actually boosts our tax revenue and economy These big box stores that bring Chinese.items and pay minimum wage cost more money to us than they return. Every Walmart costs more in taxes then they put in. None of their employees make.enough to be tax contributors ( they pay little to no taxes , get full government rebates , and alot of funded income assistance items like daycare dental etc ) Government simply needs to make sure Canadian tax dollars fund Canadian based companies employing Canadians and let.the.importers pay just like we.have to if we want to import There is no easy fix but both the cons and Liberals are selling the same ..... And neither has any real plans other than selling their supporters that the streets will.be paved with gold if you elect them...... They are both wrong I completely agree with alot of what you've said here, maybe I misread you, my apologizes. Though regarding the bolded; I don't think the NDP has any answers either, Singh has been Trudeau's bitch for years & has completely driven his party (and its legacy) into the gutter in the process - with seemingly no concern on his part. So we're left with no great options. And I agree with you on corporations increasing prices to collect the tax cuts (ala Carbon tax). If this is inevitability as you say (I don't disagree) then the answer to me isn't to progressively raise taxes & continually give them that leeway. Not saying it necessarily solves the problem in the short-term, but again, perhaps you atleast stop the bleeding in the long-term. As far as our tax dollars going towards Canadian companies, I don't hate it but you can't add more taxes - your just passing that burden onto citizens. If were talking about cutting spending to other areas (which is kinda what PP is proposing) then I agree, I'm in favour of theoretically strengthening Canadian production. But then again, that idea is very Trumpian (unnacceptable in Canada), and also means more Canadian pollution, which will mean an additional cost under a carbon tax. So these factors all intersect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Anyone seen anything about this Edmonton Terrorist Attack? Apparently he was carrying a gun & molotov cocktails, and was subdued by someone unarmed (god bless that guy). There was a grade 1 class in the building doing a tour, very scary. Fortunately no casualties or anything. (- all according to this global report) https://globalnews.ca/news/10244633/edmonton-city-hall-lockdown-january/ Quote The “threat to public safety has concluded” at Edmonton City Hall, police said Tuesday afternoon after shots were fired inside the building earlier in the day. Chief Dale McFee said the Edmonton Police Service received a call about shots fired at city hall at 10:25 a.m. and officers arrived “within minutes” and arrested a man. “There were no injuries or casualties,” he said. “We believe this individual acted alone,” McFee said at a 4 p.m. news conference. The police chief stressed there is no indication the shooter had accomplices. McFee said the suspect came into city hall through the parkade and walked through city hall with a firearm, firing shots and shattering glass, mostly on the second floor. It appears the suspect was shooting “randomly,” McFee said, not necessarily at people. “This particular individual is what I would classify as heavily armed,” he said, adding the suspect had incendiary devices that police described as Molotov cocktails. There was some fire damage near an elevator in city hall, McFee said. An unarmed commissionaire — or city security guard — initially detained the shooter, the police chief said. “He went above and beyond his job … and for that, we’re grateful,” McFee said. “Any actions this individual took had a great impact on the outcome of this.” Police officers arrived very quickly after that and checked city hall to make sure there were no other explosives or suspects. Members of a Global News crew at city hall on Tuesday morning said they and others were put into a lockdown sometime around 10:30 a.m. after several loud bangs were heard. Police confirmed shortly after that they were investigating a “weapons complaint.” “Police are doing a sweep of city hall,” a police spokesperson said earlier in the morning. “Roadways around city hall have been closed and citizens are asked to avoid the area.” Emergency crews remained at the building at as of 2:30 p.m. “The event at city hall is concluding and roadways are being reopened,” the EPS said at the time. At the 4 p.m. news conference, McFee said: “The building has been rendered safe.” In a statement late Tuesday afternoon, city manager Andre Corbould said city hall has safety protocols and procedures in place and because of those – and because of “diligent staff” and peace officers, police and firefighters – no one was physically hurt. He said the city will support the police investigation and has offered support to any staff who need help processing the incident. “We will reopen city hall and return to conducting government business as soon as it is safe to do so,” Corbould said. No date was provided. A photo submitted to Global News by someone at city hall appeared to show a person being detained by another person but it was not immediately clear if this was the person police arrested. The suspect appeared to be wearing what looked like a security jacket, a vest and a security shirt. McFee said it’s too early to say if he worked or ever worked in that role but that’s something investigators will look into. They’re also trying to track where he obtained the gun. “It was a gun that could fire multiple rounds quickly. I don’t know the classification yet,” McFee said. While he couldn’t speculate on the amount of planning that might have gone into an incident like this, McFee said a suspect “that heavily armed means some thought went into it.” The police chief also said it was too early to say if the suspect was known to police or had been to city hall before. McFee did not provide an age for the suspect. A Global News reporter at city hall said she and other members of the media, along with the mayor, several city councillors, the city’s fire chief and city staff were in the building’s River Valley Room for an emergency management committee meeting when she heard a bang prior to the lockdown being ordered. She said there was a pause and then she heard at least three more loud bangs. She said a security guard in the room with them went out to the foyer to look. The guard then came back to the room, said “there’s been a shooting,” and locked the door. Everyone in the room stood up, the reporter said, and went to the side of the room. For several minutes, everyone in the room texted or called loved ones until someone told them they should go outside to the muster point. The reporter said as everyone left the room, they saw police, including members of what appeared to be the tactical unit, enter city hall in a calm manner. She said dozens of police officers were at city hall, as well as paramedics and firefighters. Global News spoke with Coun. Tim Cartmell outside city hall where he was standing with his staff. He said they had been upstairs in their offices when they heard a loud bang and that they were then led downstairs and out the door by personnel at city hall. Coun. Jo-Anne Wright was inside city hall at the emergency management meeting when she heard several bangs. “I thought they were just setting up for an event outside. There was a pause and a couple more bangs. I kind of looked at staff and said: ‘Should we be worried?’ There was a couple more bangs followed by security shutting the doors and saying: ‘There’s a shooter.’” The fire marshal locked the doors and had everybody move to the back of the room, Wright recalled. Then, after the fire alarm was pulled to evacuate the building, the fire marshal made sure the exit route was clear and escorted everyone outside. “I don’t know what the reason was that this person felt the need to come in and make that display. I’m just glad nobody was hurt,” Wright said. “The whole time I was so impressed by the professionalism and calmness of the staff. Making sure everybody was accounted for. A little bit shocking, took everybody aback, but it was all managed very well.” The councillor said she anticipates safety and security will be reviewed in light of this incident but doesn’t want to see metal detectors at every entrance. “I don’t think I’d like to see that. I want city hall to be a welcoming place for everyone.” Mayor Amarjeet Sohi expressed gratitude for police, city hall security, peace officers and Edmonton Fire Rescue Services for their response to the active shooter and explosive device incident. “I know many Edmontonians will be shocked by the news of this event. And I share those feelings. I’m proud that Edmonton City Hall has been an open and welcoming space for decades. And I’m confident that it will continue to be. My office has been working closely with the administration, and we will follow the advice of the security professionals as we determine the next steps,” the mayor said in a statement on social media. “To the city staff impacted by this event and to their families, I share your trauma. Please know there are supports available for you through the Employee and Family Assistance Program.” A Global News photographer who was let back inside the building to get their gear Tuesday afternoon saw what appeared to be three burnt spots on the main staircase inside city hall. They also saw broken glass from a railing on the second floor of the building. A Global News crew at the scene noticed at one point that a group of children was led out of city hall, accompanied by adults. They were brought to a city bus outside to keep them warm. The Global News crew said they did not appear to be in distress. A spokesperson for Edmonton Public Schools confirmed on Tuesday afternoon that a Grade 1 class from one of its schools had been on a field trip at city hall when it was put into lockdown. “Prior to the lockdown, the class had been split into two groups for separate activities,” the EPSB spokesperson said. “When the lockdown was called, one group of students was kept inside city hall chambers with a staff member, while the other group of students was kept inside the Stanley Milner Library with a staff member.” She said students and staff returned to school safely “after police gave the all clear.” “This incident may have caused distress for those on the field trip. The division’s critical incident support services team will be available to provide support in the coming days.” In a message on social media, Premier Danielle Smith wrote: “I want to express my deepest gratitude for the swift work of the Edmonton Police Service in responding to today’s incident at the City of Edmonton. I’m so thankful that no one was physically injured today. My thoughts are with all city employees and their families at this time.” A security expert said places like city hall present additional challenges. “When you’re dealing with public buildings … there’s always opportunities for people to do what we saw,” said Neil LaMay, a senior consultant with Global Enterprise Security Risk Management Inc. “Balancing security in that sort of environment is very tricky. You constantly have to be on your guard. You have to get it right every hour, every day, whereas somebody who comes in touting a gun or a knife or something — they only have to get it right once to do a lot of serious harm.” There’s a balance between having government buildings be accessible but also safe, LaMay said. “We don’t want our government buildings — at all three levels of government — to look like the Edmonton Max. “It’s very important in the way we run our society that government be available to the people. That’s the greatest challenge… We can’t close and lock the doors.” LaMay said this shooting could have turned into a nightmare. “Anytime there’s bullets flying around in a public place, where there’s people all over the place, the danger is very, very high. We’re fortunate in this case nobody was seriously injured.” If you click the link there's raw footage of the shooter. Very strange. Doesn't seem to know how to handle a gun, then drops it & walks out of the frame. Very curious to hear his motive but most importantly glad everyone is safe. The unarmed guy who subdued him is a hero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 7 hours ago, Miss Korea said: @Bob Long should we start a fight Nah it's all good Cool moment tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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