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44 minutes ago, Bob Long said:

 

But it is. You equated real people to inanimate objects and weirdly threw in black people.

 

Maybe you aren't aware of how this sounds? 

Weirdly threw in? Black people don't exist? Dolphins are inanimate? If you boys can think they are girls why can't people think they are different races? There are definitely people who identify as animals unless you are saying they don't exist or should be taken less seriously. 

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Just now, 5forFighting said:

I wouldn't leave my kids with either. 

Exactly! Parents need to raise and care for their kids. When did we get this attitude it was okay to have other people take care of our kids? Parents. One of you stay the f home and raise your kids up proper. The state should not be raising kids! 

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15 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said:

I think it's great that Trudeau isn't responsible for anything and that nothing is really his fault.  I am assuming that when PP takes over the same posters will apply this logic to PP as well.  PP won't be responsible for anything and nothing will be his fault...

I think it's great so many people think Trudeau is responsible for everything and everything is his fault.  I am assuming that when PP takes over the same posters will apply this logic to PP as well.  PP will be responsible for everything and everything will be his fault...

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15 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said:

Bank of Canada Governor:

 

"You're not gonna solve housing with low interest rates and you're not gonna solve it with high interest rates.  We've tried both..."

 

 

Yes housing etc is the fault of the government.

 

Fancy that, here's someone who posted about just this less than a page ago.

 

On 2/1/2024 at 11:24 AM, DSVII said:

Why...what's that?

 

*GASP*

 

With no less than a total of 8 of our provinces/territories being run by Conservative parties since 2015 when hair boy took office and so much of the issues people whining about being provincially managed issues.

 

Kind of speaks volumes about which political side of things is causing the actual issues since we're apparently now doing that full time.

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7 hours ago, 5forFighting said:

He's not responsible for everything or anything, but his party is in power and it is getting worse day by day, which is why the polling is so bad for them. 

His party is not in power, it is sitting in the seat at the behest and balance of the NDP who are trying to massage the position they are in by keeping the libs in power.  This has been the case since 2019 and this is without mentioning the senate who has almost universal final say in amendments to laws passed.

 

If more people understood this the polling wouldn't look anything like it does.

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6 hours ago, Wiggums said:

Name one time in recent/modern history in where life got easier or more affordable under a new PM/government.

 

Go head I will wait.

 

Myself, I am actually in a far better position now than I was under the former Harper government.  Why?  Because I made life changes moved; cut non essential things out of my life and started treating my money like it wasn't expendable.

 

I also avoided blaming the government for every single issue that cropped up in my life and took ownership for my own actions while trying to solve adult issues like an adult instead of whining about it.

 

Others, have not.  Things have in fact gotten more expensive, but then so many people refuse to make any meaningful changes or moves to change their positions and instead whine about it and blame the government (usually the wrong ones at that) for it

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6 hours ago, Ricky Ravioli said:

Good for you? You don't speak for everyone.

 

People are hurting. You can choose to ignore it if you wish. Not my problem

 

https://globalnews.ca/news/10253600/affordability-ipsos-canada-poll/

 

Affordability is top concern for Canadians as Parliament resumes: poll

Affordability issues are the main priority for Canadians as parliamentarians return to Ottawa on Monday, and as Liberals gain slightly on the Conservative lead in the polls.

 

Polling by Ipsos exclusively for Global News found that 49 per cent of Canadians say that reducing the cost of everyday items like groceries is their top concern and what they want parliamentarians to focus on in the new session of Parliament. This is closely followed by inflation and interest rates (45 per cent) and access to affordable housing (39 per cent).

During the Liberal caucus retreat on Jan. 25, House Leader Steve MacKinnon said economic issues will be the top priority for the government this session.

“So, economics are the order of the day, making life easier for Canadians and making housing more accessible,” MacKinnon said.

The House leader, who is in charge of implementing the government’s legislative agenda in that chamber and works with other parties to schedule debates and votes, talked about continued work on measures included in the fall economic statement, such as expanding dental care and legislation to ban replacement workers. He also signalled new bills will be coming.

 

“There are a number of other initiatives that will be coming forward. I’m not going to reveal all of the bills that will be (presented), but the government has a significant pipeline,” MacKinnon said.

Findings of Ipsos’ polling on the parliamentary priorities of Canadians.
Findings of Ipsos’ polling on the parliamentary priorities of Canadians. Global News

Immigration is the fourth biggest parliamentary priority according the Ipsos poll, something the firm says is not traditionally in the top five issues for Canadian.

 

Twenty-two per cent of respondents said it is now a top priority.

 

The pollster says that Canadians are linking immigration policy, including international student caps, to the housing-supply shortage.

 

Other widely shared priorities identified by more than 10 per cent of respondents include homelessness, the cost of energy and the dental care plan.

 

Liberals chip at Conservative lead

 

The polling also found that the Conservatives still hold a wide lead over the Liberals, but the Grits have reduced it to a single-digit lead.

 

The Liberals are up three points, to 27 per cent support. The Conservatives slipped four points, but still enjoy 36 per cent support. The NDP are at 20 per cent.

 

This is the first Ipsos poll in nearly a year where the Liberals saw their support increase. That support bottomed out in November 2023 at 24 per cent.

 

However, in battleground Ontario, the Conservatives still enjoy a double-digit lead with 39 per cent support over both the NDP (27 per cent) and Liberals (24 per cent).

 

The large number of ridings in Ontario and especially the Greater Toronto Area make it — along with Quebec — a crucial field of play for political parties in any potential federal election campaign.

 

The Bloc Quebecois leads polling in Quebec with 34 per cent support, and the Liberals are nipping at their heels at 31 per cent.

 

Ipsos says Atlantic Canada is a tight, three-way race between the main national parties. Meanwhile, the Conservatives double-digit lead extends across the western provinces, as well as with voters over age 35.

 

As you can see. You are not everyone 

Affordability is and always will be the #1 issue going to the polls.  Always has been.  

 

But the fact of the matter is, things are getting better now already and even the polls are now down to single digit numbers.  With supply lines back and running and inflation easing things are getting easier.  The one unspoken thing though is debt servicing after over a decade of artificially low interest rates in which people making minimum wage were somehow going to mexico 3-4 times a year on borrowed dollars.

 

Now that many people are smartening up about their finances and no spending money they don't have and the level of debt servicing is being reduced it is making life a lot more easier for the many who are finally paying attention to what they are spending and how they are spending it.

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5 hours ago, Ricky Ravioli said:

What do you think happens when people have to pay more for goods and services? Like you can't be this ignorant? People are being squeezed out

 

"I've got house projects" That explains everything I need to hear right there.

 

Ask anyone under the age of 30 how they are doing. I'm sure they would be glad to tell you

 

Ask anyone under the age of 70.

 

This isn't agre related to a certain demographic at all and your suggestion that it is is baffling.  Seniors are hurting as much or more than the average person.

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5 hours ago, Ricky Ravioli said:

You own a home dude. Of course YOUR kids are fine. Not everyone is in your position.

 

Let's see. Rentals?

Home ownership?

For some people buying good healthy groceries is becoming increasingly difficult or just groceries in general.

People can't save due to having to spend more.

Entertainment has gotten increasingly expensive. That's just off the top of my head 

Rentals.  That's actually a personal issue because people charge what they want for their homes.  As most people use property management companies and so many homes are now owned by companies and corporations under REIT umbrellas it is as much corporate greed as it is personal greed.  

 

Home ownership?  You want the government to really step in on that?  Isn't that socialism? Authoritarianism?  Communism?  Which of the 37 isms on the right is that again?

 

Groceries are almost entirely a corporate greed issue.  Since 2021 groceries across the board have actually suffered shrinkflation becoming on par smaller per size but more expensive.  This in relation to grocers posting the largest and most sustained profits the industry has ever seen in the over 70 years of charted data.

 

People can't save?  Ya that sucks.  I am comfortable and I am not saving either.  It is not uniue to one demographic

 

Entertainment?  You mean music, theaters movies etc?  Fancy that.  All private business or corporations who are charging what they want.

 

None of this is a government issue as it is all effectively a corporate and personal greed issue.  Why is this so hard ot comprehend?

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5 hours ago, Ricky Ravioli said:

Are you being purposely obtuse or? If people have to choose between paying upwards of 80% of their income towards rent to avoid being homeless, what do you think people are going to do?

For reference here are the rent indexes v cost of living in NA cities from 1-30 in 2014 and 2024.  Less overall Canadian cities in he 2024 charts for the top 30.  Just saying

 

 

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4 hours ago, Ricky Ravioli said:

That's on you for assuming that. I never said this country is a hell hole or anything like that. I said people are hurting. I have given you charts that clearly show that. You don't have to agree, I don't really care.

 

If he gets in power and things continue to get worse or stay stagnant, yes. Yes I will be complaining then too. This isn't a right vs left thing. This is a I want to be able to afford to live comfortably thing

So here's the issue

 

Pierre has positioned this to be an issue in which the nation is

 

Not free

broke

immoral

tyrannical

 

While you may not think that; the fight positioned is just this by the conservative brand.

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3 hours ago, 5forFighting said:

There was lots of lumber before, during and after covid. 

Just saying.  Walking backwards can be hazardous

 

https://canada.constructconnect.com/dcn/news/economic/2020/08/high-lumber-prices-are-just-one-piece-of-canadas-housing-affordability-crisis

 

oncerns expressed by Canadian homebuilders that record high lumber costs are hurting business have blazed across national headlines.

However, a conversation with Casey Edge, executive director of the Victoria Residential Builders Association, quickly reveals that increases to the costs of SPF lumber (Spruce, Pine, Fir) are only part of Canada’s home affordability issue.

“It’s a concern, but it’s a number that fluctuates,” Edge told the Daily Commercial News. “You can have a slump in lumber prices, or you can have what we have right now which are very high costs.”

Nevertheless, price increases for lumber used in home construction are staggering — currently up 100 per cent at mid-August from the 2019 annual average, according to B.C.’s Ministry of Forestry, Lands, Natural Resources and Rural Development.

As challenging as this increase is for Canadian builders, prices are further exaggerated in the United States by a 20 per cent tariff imposed on Canadian softwood.

In a letter dated Aug. 7, 2020 appealing to U.S. President Donald Trump to end the tariffs, National Association of Home Builders CEO Gerald Howard claimed American builders, “are seeing shortages of lumber resulting in an 80 per cent increase in lumber prices since mid-April. Framing lumber prices reached a record high in late July, while oriented strand board prices have increased 138 per cent over the past year.”

Supply is at the heart of the lumber pricing problem, said Edge, due largely to the actions of government. For example, the Province of British Columbia raised stumpage fees last year for trees harvested from its lands, making it uneconomical for many mills to continue and forcing them to close. Added to that has been a pine beetle infestation and recent shutdowns due to COVID-19. As a result, it is estimated that Canadian lumber production has fallen over 25 per cent, year-over-year.

 

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=1610001705&pickMembers[0]=1.11&cubeTimeFrame.startMonth=03&cubeTimeFrame.startYear=2020&cubeTimeFrame.endMonth=11&cubeTimeFrame.endYear=2023&referencePeriods=20200301%2C20231101

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3 hours ago, 5forFighting said:

Believe what you want. They were sending lumber to the states in record numbers. They were stockpiling up here because the US was overpaying and they wanted their lumber being sent down south and they did not want to flood the US market to push prices down and they did not want to sell to Canadian suppliers so they wouldn't be short when the US companies called.

 

You can believe whatever you want, it makes zero difference to me, I was in the throws. You were not.  

You're aware that in 2020 and 2021 there was masive tarrifs put in place due to the former trump government that still haven't been entirely reduced or removed.  17% to 20%

 

So you'll have to back that statement up for me

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2 hours ago, 5forFighting said:

Bankruptcies up 41% in 2023

 

~ CBC

rough landings from the covid years all around the globe, but without the base number the % is pointless. 

100% of the women I sleep with will be going to bed early with a headache tonight. Rough patch for ol' P.O>? OR is his only wife suffering a migraine?
only with the context will we find out the truth. (She has a migraine and I talked ALLSTAR game all afternoon, exacerbating it dramatically) lollollol

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2 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said:

No wonder PP is destroying Trudeau in the polls.  There are people who still think we are doing just fine and nothing needs to be fixed.  If that were the case, Trudeau would win the next election in a landslide.  There is a reason Trudeau has lost his appeal among the majority of voters including the generation Z, which should technically be voting Liberal or NDP.

 

But again, if everyone is happy with the current economic conditions and Trudeau isn't really at fault with anything then I am sure people will still be voting for him.  You don't have to convince people on an anonymous message board to vote for Trudeau.  Just go out into the general population and talk to regular people.  

 

This is the best website to follow the polls.  338 Canada.  As of January 28, the Cons are predicted to win 199 seats, the Liberals 73.  I will be following this regularly for updates...

 

338Canada Canada | Poll Analysis & Electoral Projections

 

Here is a great article on Generation Z.  There are 4.5 million Canadians who are in this demographic, which works out to 14% of the voters for the next election.  Here is what they are saying...

 

In Generation Z, a new kind of voter emerges, focused more on issues, less on parties - National | Globalnews.ca

 

The arrival of Generation Z — this cohort will be about 14 per cent of all eligible voters in 2025 — is almost certain to have a significant and growing impact on the political culture of Western democracies, including Canada, as this youngest group of voters focuses their political activity on solving the problems their generation has identified as top priorities — climate change and housing are currently the top two in Canada — and are prepared to move their support across the political spectrum to match those priorities.

 

“It’s interesting because I think my generation has a little bit more of a cynical approach to thinking about how politicians are going to be helping us out right now,” said Russell Van Raalte, a 21-year-old third-year economics student at Queen’s University in Kingston, ON.  “I think we look at the housing crisis and the environment and we say to ourselves, really, can the government do very much? I’m not exactly sure.”

 

And while younger voters tend to see more progressive parties as more aligned on the issues GenZ adults rank as most important, that Ipsos poll from November found that nearly one in three respondents under 30 said they would vote Conservative — almost certainly the result of the Conservatives seemingly singled-minded focus on housing, an issue with GenZ adults ranks as a higher priority than other generational cohorts.

 

So basically, the #1 issue with Generation Z is housing.  Makes sense as this generation is the one most affected by the housing crisis.  They will vote with whoever gives them the best chance to be able to afford to buy a home.  I don't think it matters to them who is at fault for the housing crisis.  They will vote based on who they feel can fix this mess.  Seems like PP is the one who is making the most noise about it.  Maybe Trudeau should do the same if he wants to get re-elected.  And if the housing crisis isn't his fault, then he should be doing everything possible to let Generation Z know this.  PP attack ads are no excuse.  All politicians use attack ads.  Trudeau needs to attack right back if he wants a chance at winning the next election...

Destroying is interesting.

 

Do a snapshot of say.....Nov 16th.  Jan 12th and today.

 

It changes week by week.

 

Rousing anger about housing is one thing, but without a pan to fix it it is a bunch of clueless idiots rage farming and hoping people stay angry long enough for them to get in to power without realizing there was never a plan to fix it that didn't derail the democratic process

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2 hours ago, 5forFighting said:

He could, should and has. The problem is, every time he does it ends up backfiring. When you are in power for 9 years and housing has gotten worse every year and then you have inflation coupled with interest rates and it gets tied to immigration, he can't win. The people he has elected to the positions after the shake up are worse than he had there before. It is sad to watch. Pierre just has to eat apples and answer a few questions a week, make some videos and tweet here and there. He keeps using Liberals words against them and it is working to near perfection. 

If this is true it only proves that the average person is not paying attention past their emotions or social media sound bites.

 

You should be very afraid of that.

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1 hour ago, Elias Pettersson said:

 

The people who support Trudeau keep saying he isn't responsible for anything and hasn't done anything wrong.  Also, everything is fine and we have nothing to worry about.  If you can't afford a home, it's your problem, figure it out.

 

This is why the Cons are leading by a landslide in the polls.  The Liberal voters have become too complacent and it seems they are now disassociated with the average person who can barely afford their rent and their mortgage payments.  If the Liberals continue this pattern, then I agree that PP won't need to do much over the next 18 months.  He will just keep attacking the Liberals with housing ads and show up for some PR events once a week and call it a day.  

This used to be the Conservative mind set.

 

A persons finances are their own issue.  You're suggesting or at least skirting the suggestion that the Conservatives interfere with this which is tantamount to socialism at best and outright democratic subversion of private industry at worst

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3 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

You're aware that in 2020 and 2021 there was masive tarrifs put in place due to the former trump government that still haven't been entirely reduced or removed.  17% to 20%

 

So you'll have to back that statement up for me

I do know that a lot of our companies are owned by yankee lumber firms. In fact the blockades that have tried to stop the Pacheedaht First Nation from harvesting timber on their ancestral and treaty lands was originally led by the son of the richest lumber barron in Washington State. Weird eh? Almost like those yankee billionaires were trying to stymie Canadian forestry..but the lawless ecowarriors don't mind that part so much if it advances their feeling of doing something for the environment. 

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20 minutes ago, 5forFighting said:

That's false. 

As are your insinuations about lumber shortages v pricing v exports.

 

A certain poster has posted no less than 4 different stories which you have refused, not failed; to respond to that directly refute your anecdotal statements.

 

There is a word for that sir.

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