Canadian Politics Thread

[RupertKBD]

1 hour ago, Elias Pettersson said:

As per my previous post the 2x8 is only mandatory right now in Richmond and Maple Ridge. There may be others but we haven’t seen it yet. The B.C. building code for all other areas including Prince Rupert is still 2x6 as a minimum requirement. Builders are free to use 2x8 if they want to to maximize the energy efficiency. 
 

Eventually all municipalities will need to change to 2x8 as you will need the extra 2 inches to fit the R24 and R60 insulation which is needed for 100% energy efficiency. 
 

I agree it s going to be ridiculously expensive. So the extra cost will undoubtedly be passed on to the buyer. My friend has already increased the prices of his homes accordingly. 

 

Again....I'd love to see the documentation. I looked and wasn't able to find any reference to 2x6's being a requirement for framing.

 

Not that I doubt your friend's word, but I want to make sure before I do any building around my place.

[KristoffWixenschon]

3 minutes ago, 5forFighting said:

There and BC are the easiest. Depends on the GP. 

Tell me more. Do BC and Ontario have different regulations than other provinces for providing gender affirming hormone therapy? Or are you saying that your perception is that physicians are more likely to provide gender affirming hormone therapy because of sociocultural reasons? What do you mean?

[Bob Long]

11 minutes ago, bishopshodan said:

If you think you can catch 'gay' then you might be a bit gay...

 

And if you think being gay is a choice....why would so many choose to be gay when they have so much anger, bigotry, and persecution towards them?

 

 

its all context I suppose. If he actually walks into a leather bar by mistake, can you blame him?

 

[5forFighting]

1 minute ago, Bob Long said:

 

its all context I suppose. If he actually walks into a leather bar by mistake, can you blame him?

 

Is that wrong? You sound homophobic. 

[5forFighting]

4 minutes ago, KristoffWixenschon said:

Tell me more. Do BC and Ontario have different regulations than other provinces for providing gender affirming hormone therapy? Or are you saying that your perception is that physicians are more likely to provide gender affirming hormone therapy because of sociocultural reasons? What do you mean?

Feel free to look it up if you like. 

[bishopshodan]

1 minute ago, Bob Long said:

 

its all context I suppose. If he actually walks into a leather bar by mistake, can you blame him?

 

 Is that latent homosexuality?

[Bob Long]

5 minutes ago, 5forFighting said:

Is that wrong? You sound homophobic. 

 

no dude, not at all. I can make some introductions if you like. 

[Bob Long]

3 minutes ago, bishopshodan said:

 Is that latent homosexuality?

 

he might call it a solid weekend. We don't need labels here. 

[RupertKBD]

4 hours ago, Satchmo said:

The word you are looking for is hypocrisy.  Not that I agree that either word is warranted but that would be the one to use in this case .

[Satchmo]

5 minutes ago, bishopshodan said:

 Is that latent homosexuality?

If you can't afford all that leather it might be Latex homosexuality.

[RupertKBD]

4 hours ago, 5forFighting said:

Convenient. You don't have kids do you?

 

4 hours ago, Satchmo said:

I have two.   Why does that matter?

 

I have three, all now adults.....and know what? Raising them to adulthood didn't require an ounce of bigotry on my part....nor did I need to tell their teachers how to do their jobs.

 

I know....crazy, right?

[Attila Umbrus]

4 hours ago, the destroyer of worlds said:

Do you honestly think that all lil Jimmy needs to do to is say "I'm Tranny" and they will get referred to a doctor to have their pee pee chopped off?

 

Honestly, explain exactly the steps that lil Jimmy would have to do, and when he can do it, because I think you are poorly informed in this area.

 

Honestly it's easier than I thought. I'm not sure how many of us has had first hand encounters with a friend or family member who is transitioning.

 

Myself I have 2 in my family. My little brother just come out last year as gay, and we love him to bits. I'll always support him. He isn't transitioning.

 

However my niece was. At 18 years old she had her breasts removed and started her transition...fast forward 8 years and she is mad she ever did it. She realizes now she was in a fragile state with her Dad leaving her and her mother. It was a rough time for her and after her dad left she started acting out in various ways including dressing like a boy and wanting women instead of men. Her mother supported her through all this and gave the approval and signed off on her transition at 17 years old, so the doctors got started and by 18 and going through all the trials it was a done deal and the procedure completed... It shocked our family to say the least. As we all wanted her to wait and see how she felt in a few years till she was older to see if her mind was set on doing it. We were worried this was mostly to do with her dad leaving...which fast forward to now, it's exactly what it was. She can't reverse what's she's done and her mother feels terrible for even letting it happen.

 

I'm not a politically charged person but I don't think it's too crazy to add some boundaries to the transition process for young teens. It's a damn confusing time. I'm sure there are solid, special cases, and those should absolutely be listened to. But lots of cases i'm sure are like my nieces where you have a confused teen going through a tough time and they start acting in certain ways to cope.

 

In my nieces case, she has met a very nice guy who understands her and loves her. So no harm done in that department. Mentally she is doing amazing now. Just finishing University and has a great life in head of her. But there are more and more transition stories coming out that do show people have regret in the process several years down the road.

 

I'm all for supporting someone transitioning and don't want to hold anybody back. But I don't like how if you support an idea like making it a bit tougher to transition in your early teens some how you are now part of the Right wing anti gay crowd and fly a Fuck Trudeau flag on your jacked up truck. Or wear a MAGA hat and get hard whenever Trumps name is used. 

 

There are good points on both sides of the discussion and we need to solidly look at both without getting in a pissing match and staking sides. It's not productive at all. Yet all we see nowadays is LEFT VS RIGHT. You pick a side and I pick a side and defend it till you're blue in the face. We'll never solve any issues if that's the way we look at politics, life, or anything in general.

 

Sorry, not targeting you, just decided to reply to your post to talk on the subject! 

 

We need to remove the LEFT and RIGHT boundaries and have open discussion on lots of hot topics around the world, only then can we find the truth and start to understand eachother.

 

 

 

Edited February 4 by Attila Umbrus

[Sharpshooter]

I want to keep the discussion going based on Politics but I have to warn everyone here that you ensure you’re not disparaging people of any genders or those of other gender identities that don’t conform with your particular identity. 
 

Carry on, but be forewarned. 

[Gurn]

27 minutes ago, Bob Long said:

 

its all context I suppose. If he actually walks into a leather bar by mistake, can you blame him?

 

a friend and I, after a concert at Roger's went for a long, burn off some energy, walk.

Stop into a bar and order a beer a piece, waiter  says " Oh, you are buying him a beer?"

sounded a bit strange, as questions go.

I take a look around, at some of the artwork, then the cliental, and  say to my buddy " I'm reasonably sure we are on Davies street."

 

Yep. Gay bar.

Ordered another beer,  drank them, then went back to walking.

did like the fact that nobody cared that a couple of 'straights' were in the place, everybody just minding their own business.

world be a better place if more people could just do the same.

 

[5forFighting]

16 minutes ago, RupertKBD said:

 

 

I have three, all now adults.....and know what? Raising them to adulthood didn't require an ounce of bigotry on my part....nor did I need to tell their teachers how to do their jobs.

 

I know....crazy, right?

When did they tell you they were gay or straight? 

[5forFighting]

Just now, Gurn said:

a friend and I, after a concert at Roger's went for a long, burn off some energy, walk.

Stop into a bar and order a beer a piece, waiter  says " Oh, you are buying him a beer?"

sounded a bit strange, as questions go.

I take a look around, at some of the artwork, then the cliental, and  say to my buddy " I'm reasonably sure we are on Davies street."

 

Yep. Gay bar.

Ordered another beer,  drank them, then went back to walking.

did like the fact that nobody cared that a couple of 'straights' were in the place, everybody just minding their own business.

world be a better place if more people could just do the same.

 

Maybe you blended in with the gays

[RupertKBD]

2 minutes ago, 5forFighting said:

When did they tell you they were gay or straight? 

 

They didn't have to.

 

My oldest started dating girls in her teens, so we pretty much knew she was gay. The younger two have boyfriends / fiancees, so we know they're straight.

[The Lock]

5 minutes ago, 5forFighting said:

Maybe you blended in with the gays

 

For someone who agreed with me earlier on the fact that we should be inclusive, you sure seem afraid of certain groups.

[5forFighting]

5 minutes ago, RupertKBD said:

 

They didn't have to.

 

My oldest started dating girls in her teens, so we pretty much knew she was gay. The younger two have boyfriends / fiancees, so we know they're straight.

What if he's faking, like those that get married and switch 30 years later?

[5forFighting]

3 minutes ago, The Lock said:

 

For someone who agreed with me earlier on the fact that we should be inclusive, you sure seem afraid of certain groups.

Define afraid of certain groups. 

[The Lock]

1 minute ago, 5forFighting said:

What if he's faking, like those that get married and switch 30 years later?

 

What if he is? Does that matter?

[RupertKBD]

1 minute ago, 5forFighting said:

What if he's faking, like those that get married and switch 30 years later?

 

C'est la vie....

[The Arrogant Worms]

12 minutes ago, Bob Long said:

 

its all context I suppose. If he actually walks into a leather bar by mistake, can you blame him?

 

 

9 minutes ago, Gurn said:

a friend and I, after a concert at Roger's went for a long, burn off some energy, walk.

Stop into a bar and order a beer a piece, waiter  says " Oh, you are buying him a beer?"

sounded a bit strange, as questions go.

I take a look around, at some of the artwork, then the cliental, and  say to my buddy " I'm reasonably sure we are on Davies street."

 

Yep. Gay bar.

Ordered another beer,  drank them, then went back to walking.

did like the fact that nobody cared that a couple of 'straights' were in the place, everybody just minding their own business.

world be a better place if more people could just do the same.

 

One of my best friends and I were in Portland in 2010 for a Jimmy Buffett concert.  Ended up staying 5 days.  We were doing a pub crawl one afternoon downtown and had the same experience.  No one gave a crap that we were in there and the bartender was great.

[Gurn]

12 minutes ago, 5forFighting said:

Maybe you blended in with the gays

Could be, after all, they were all human, like me and my buddy.

[The Lock]

Just now, 5forFighting said:

Define afraid of certain groups. 

 

You're afraid of trans. That's pretty apparent given the "memes" you have provided. You seem to also question going to gay bars. That also makes it seem like you're afraid of gay bars.

 

Not exactly the signs of a strong-minded person.