Satchmo Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 1 minute ago, 5forFighting said: https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/transgender-top-surgery-canadian-children Congrats on the research but I think you are cherry picking information. I'd suggest looking at a few more articles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5forFighting Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 6 minutes ago, Satchmo said: Congrats on the research but I think you are cherry picking information. I'd suggest looking at a few more articles. Go ahead, I provided a very good one. If you need more, please feel free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satchmo Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 2 minutes ago, 5forFighting said: Go ahead, I provided a very good one. If you need more, please feel free. I've already looked at lots of articles and papers today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5forFighting Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 1 minute ago, Satchmo said: I've already looked at lots of articles and papers today. Congrats on the research. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 25 minutes ago, The Lock said: I will say that I've stopped coming to this thread because of 5forFighting At this point I'm not afraid to say he is either a brain dead troll or he is just a complete **** with no regard for human decency or even human rights. He has shown literally no redeeming qualities whatsoever. Just lies and misinformation. Absolute nonsense. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spur1 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 2 hours ago, 5forFighting said: Religion? That's weird. Is no drinking, voting, driving etc until a certain age religious? No that is common sense and actually protecting society from the children and themselves. Anti gay and anti trans are from religious dogma. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5forFighting Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 4 minutes ago, Spur1 said: No that is common sense and actually protecting society from the children and themselves. Anti gay and anti trans are from religious dogma. Common sense use to be common. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spur1 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 26 minutes ago, Miss Korea said: At this point I'm not afraid to say he is either a brain dead troll or he is just a complete **** with no regard for human decency or even human rights. He has shown literally no redeeming qualities whatsoever. Just lies and misinformation. Absolute nonsense. Oh you mean like a religious cult member. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the destroyer of worlds Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 (edited) 57 minutes ago, 5forFighting said: https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/transgender-top-surgery-canadian-children As I suspected. From your very article Of the 4,071 visits in total involving gender-affirming mastectomies or breast reductions reported since 2018, 602 involved youth 18 and under. In 5 years in a country of over 38 million, the number is in the hundreds. Mount Everest of a mole hill indeed. And the best you can do is TOP surgery for female to male. No Lil Jimmy becoming Janey. And they were all TEENS. And, I'd love for you to show thar all they did was say I'm tranny. That there wasn't various hoops to jump through. Edited February 5 by the destroyer of worlds 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 1 hour ago, JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo said: How in the fuck are you still a member here? On 1/29/2024 at 5:20 PM, JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo said: Gfy On 1/29/2024 at 7:29 PM, JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo said: Gtfooh. Absolute trash On 1/29/2024 at 7:45 PM, JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo said: stfu That's some next level irony seeing you ask this question given how you interact with people. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spur1 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 1 minute ago, 5forFighting said: Common sense use to be common. Unfortunately some never come to their senses. Too busy following false gods and false prophets. A sign of the end times if you believe the story. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 4 minutes ago, Master Mind said: That's some next level irony seeing you ask this question given how you interact with people. Why would you focus on that and not the complete indecency, utter dishonesty, disingenuity of the so-called man he is talking to? Almost everyone here has reached the same bleak conclusion with this clown. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 2 minutes ago, Miss Korea said: Why would you focus on that and not the complete indecency, utter dishonesty, disingenuity of the so-called man he is talking to? Almost everyone here has reached the same bleak conclusion with this clown. Dudes just a good example of how messaging can turn people. Tbh I feel a bit sorry for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spur1 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 3 minutes ago, Miss Korea said: Why would you focus on that and not the complete indecency, utter dishonesty, disingenuity of the so-called man he is talking to? Almost everyone here has reached the same bleak conclusion with this clown. They talk about helping the kids but they are only trying to help themselves from their fear and homophobia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 2 minutes ago, Miss Korea said: Why would you focus on that and not the complete indecency, utter dishonesty, disingenuity of the so-called man he is talking to? Almost everyone here has reached the same bleak conclusion with this clown. Why wouldn't I? Those responses weren't even all to the same person, so it's clearly a pattern, and thus just so ironic. I disagree with that assessment of @5forFighting I do think some of that applies more accurately to some others though. I see a lot of disingenuous discussion whenever this topic comes up. The nuanced questions are often ignored, or attacked, rather than given thoughtful answers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 1 hour ago, 5forFighting said: You are looking to get me kicked off a hockey forum after calling me a neo-nazi. How is that better than sicko? He didn't call you a neo -nazi he used neo-nazi to describe your speech/rant. In alignment with forum rules which direct us to attack the post, and not the poster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 3 minutes ago, Master Mind said: Why wouldn't I? Those responses weren't even all to the same person, so it's clearly a pattern, and thus just so ironic. I disagree with that assessment of @5forFighting I do think some of that applies more accurately to some others though. I see a lot of disingenuous discussion whenever this topic comes up. The nuanced questions are often ignored, or attacked, rather than given thoughtful answers. That's kind of what happens when people begin with a disingenuous premise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 1 minute ago, Master Mind said: Why wouldn't I? Those responses weren't even all to the same person, so it's clearly a pattern, and thus just so ironic. I disagree with that assessment of @5forFighting I do think some of that applies more accurately to some others though. I see a lot of disingenuous discussion whenever this topic comes up. The nuanced questions are often ignored, or attacked, rather than given thoughtful answers. Before I look this up, I'm going to assume half of the posts were directed towards Wiggum. Indeed. It was Wiggum. He and 5 are truly one and the same. Most of the time they just opine and end up saying some super transphobic stuff - something you'd hear straight out of a deranged Republican senator. The other half of the time they are sharing articles that are either completely debunked, opinionated/flawed, or they are just grossly misrepresenting the message. Not once have either guys brought anything productive to the conversation. Not one. They are not thoughtful, not funny, not informative, and simply not valuable contributors to the thread. Most importantly, they are not nice people to talk to either. Give your own assessment of those two. What exactly have they provided other than cruelty and lies about the trans community? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spur1 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 1 hour ago, 5forFighting said: https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/transgender-top-surgery-canadian-children It's not disinformation. You want it to be, but it's happening. National Post? Didn’t they take over from the National Inquirer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 2 minutes ago, Spur1 said: National Post? Didn’t they take over from the National Inquirer? No, but they did get taken over by Republican-supported, American hedge fund. You can tell how unpatriotic and unCanadian some people are by the choice of their news sources. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 4 minutes ago, Miss Korea said: Before I look this up, I'm going to assume half of the posts were directed towards Wiggum. Indeed. It was Wiggum. He and 5 are truly one and the same. Most of the time they just opine and end up saying some super transphobic stuff - something you'd hear straight out of a deranged Republican senator. The other half of the time they are sharing articles that are either completely debunked, opinionated/flawed, or they are just grossly misrepresenting the message. Not once have either guys brought anything productive to the conversation. Not one. They are not thoughtful, not funny, not informative, and simply not valuable contributors to the thread. Most importantly, they are not nice people to talk to either. Give your own assessment of those two. What exactly have they provided other than cruelty and lies about the trans community? That is your opinion of them. You are claiming subjective opinions as fact. I don't think those statements are true. I'm not here to give my thoughts on posters of your choosing. I pointed out the irony of Joey's question given how he treats others. No need for whataboutism. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Just now, Master Mind said: That is your opinion of them. You are claiming subjective opinions as fact. I don't think those statements are true. I'm not here to give my thoughts on posters of your choosing. I pointed out the irony of Joey's question given how he treats others. No need for whataboutism. I feel like you are directly engaging in whataboutism here. They have engaged in conspiracy theories. They have engaged in disgusting fear mongering tactics. They have completely abandoned logic and made nonsense arguments. All their sources are either fake news or misrepresented. Some of my statements are outright facts. Others are not mere subjective opinions, but arguments strongly supported by a large body of evidence in this thread. So I'll ask you for the second post in a row - What part of that do you disagree with? What statement do you not think is true? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 6 minutes ago, Miss Korea said: I feel like you are directly engaging in whataboutism here. They have engaged in conspiracy theories. They have engaged in disgusting fear mongering tactics. They have completely abandoned logic and made nonsense arguments. All their sources are either fake news or misrepresented. Some of my statements are outright facts. Others are not mere subjective opinions, but arguments strongly supported by a large body of evidence in this thread. So I'll ask you for the second post in a row - What part of that do you disagree with? What statement do you not think is true? Your first reply to me was textbook whataboutism. I made a comment on one poster, and you replied asking what about the other poster. Come on... Your second post was subjective opinions. I don't think they are objectively true based on what I've seen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 3 minutes ago, Master Mind said: Your first reply to me was textbook whataboutism. I made a comment on one poster, and you replied asking what about the other poster. Come on... Your second post was subjective opinions. I don't think they are objectively true based on what I've seen. He is commenting directly to what I believe to be two of the crummiest posters on this forum. They continually spread lies and hatred. And when everyone piles on the evidence about how they're wrong, they just double down and say something stupid, starting the cycle all over. Joey's opinions are in line with most of the people here. This is beyond disagreement. Ask anyone here. I have tussled with everyone. I've fought with Worms, EP, Lock, Bob, Hippy... all of them. I don't think of any of them as shitty or stupid. But I can tell you see things differently. What I'm asking you is what part of their message/attitude you specifically agree with. Do you agree with their arguments? Their sources? Their interpretations of those sources? Their logic? Their sense of humour, even? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 5 hours ago, Spur1 said: And that is why they are assessed by mental health as well as doctors. What if the doctor thinks it was social contagion for that child? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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