Duodenum Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 9 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: The RCMP are officially involved: I do like how Trudeau's name is added to every single post on the subject, even though he probably had little to zero to do with selecting the winner of a government contract. Alas, it's a pretty bad look for the government in power to be wasting money and not doing their due diligence prior to awarding a contract of such importance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Duodenum said: I do like how Trudeau's name is added to every single post on the subject, even though he probably had little to zero to do with selecting the winner of a government contract. Alas, it's a pretty bad look for the government in power to be wasting money and not doing their due diligence prior to awarding a contract of such importance. Pretty easy to win a contract when you are the only bidder… At least 28 of GC Strategies' contracts compiled by Radio-Canada were awarded without competition. Edited February 15 by Elias Pettersson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4petesake Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 13 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: The RCMP are officially involved: Not really breaking news Larry, I posted on Tuesday that the RCMP was involved, as they should be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duodenum Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 4 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Pretty easy to win a contract when you are the only bidder… At least 28 of GC Strategies' contracts compiled by Radio-Canada were awarded without competition. A little more than $158 million of that sum — just over 66 per cent of the total — came from contracts awarded by the Canada Border Services Agency. The second and third largest government clients of GC Strategies since 2015 are the Treasury Board ($21 million) and the Natural Sciences and Engineering Research Council of Canada ($17 million). Looks like a good place to start the investigations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the destroyer of worlds Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 4 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Pretty easy to win a contract when you are the only bidder… At least 28 of GC Strategies' contracts compiled by Radio-Canada were awarded without competition. Well then whose fault is it really? The government had something they needed done. Only one company applied. That company got the contract. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 2 minutes ago, the destroyer of worlds said: Well then whose fault is it really? The government had something they needed done. Only one company applied. That company got the contract. How do you know only one company applied? Was it an open bidding process? Or was it a handshake deal under the table? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the destroyer of worlds Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 3 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: How do you know only one company applied? Was it an open bidding process? Or was it a handshake deal under the table? This is what YOU said. What the hell does WITHOUT COMPETITION mean? Pretty easy to win a contract when you are the only bidder… At least 28 of GC Strategies' contracts compiled by Radio-Canada were awarded without competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 7 minutes ago, the destroyer of worlds said: This is what YOU said. What the hell does WITHOUT COMPETITION mean? Pretty easy to win a contract when you are the only bidder… At least 28 of GC Strategies' contracts compiled by Radio-Canada were awarded without competition. That’s what the article said. I wasn’t there personally. How do we know that Radio Canada wasn’t aware of other bidders contracts being shredded? In any event that’s a pretty minute detail. Pretty bad timing for Trudeau and his cronies to have another scandal pop up with the potential of another formal RCMP investigation right before the next election. The Conservatives are gonna milk this thing until the carton is dry and rotting. Jagmeet will also be all over this. I can see the NDP being the official opposition next election. The Liberal party will be wiped out completely. Similar to 2011 when Jack Layton was around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Makers of COVID-19 protective equipment seek over $5 billion in damages from Ottawa (msn.com) Makers of COVID-19 protective equipment seek over $5 billion in damages from Ottawa Canadian manufacturers of masks and other equipment for protecting against COVID-19 are seeking more than $5 billion in damages from the federal government, saying Ottawa misled them about buying and helping sell their products. In a statement of claim filed in Federal Court, the companies and their industry association allege the government made "negligent misrepresentations" that prompted them to invest in personal protection equipment innovations, manufacturing and production. The companies and the Canadian Association of PPE Manufacturers say the government made misleading statements about markets, direct assistance, flexible procurement and long-term support over a three-year period that began in March 2020. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggums Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 "WTF" Where's the funds? Poiliviere dominates the house with confidence and swagger like we've never seen before 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 (edited) 7 hours ago, the destroyer of worlds said: This is what YOU said. What the hell does WITHOUT COMPETITION mean? Pretty easy to win a contract when you are the only bidder… At least 28 of GC Strategies' contracts compiled by Radio-Canada were awarded without competition. Its actually really common in consulting for gov't. On its own its not a shady thing. Sole sourcing usually happens when a consultant has developed some specific knowledge area for a client and then gets some follow up work. I had several like this for the feds. What's supposed to come with it is a publicly available statement of why your firm deserved to be sole sourced. It should be something that can be produced right away, it doesn't need an "investigation". Non-competitive procurement or sole source buying This refers to a requisition which specifies that a particular supplier is the only one acceptable. The sole source requisition must contain justification for requesting this specific course. The Government Contracts Regulations require the competitive soliciting of bids before any contract is entered into. However, contracts may be entered into without soliciting bids when: There is a pressing emergency such as natural disasters like earthquakes or floods; or The estimated expenditure is less than; $25,000 CAD for goods and services (buyers are still expected to solicit bids below this value whenever it is cost effective to do so); or $100,000 CAD for architectural and engineering services and other services required in respect of the planning, design, preparation or supervision of the construction, repair, renovation of a work; or $100,000 CAD for the Canadian International Development Agency (CIDA) service contracts related to international development programs or projects; or A competition is not in the public interest; or Only one supplier is capable of performing the work, as in the case of a supplier who owns a copyright or software license. For more information, please see the PWGSC Supply Manual, Chapter 3: Section 3.15 Non-competitive Contracting Process. https://buyandsell.gc.ca/for-government/buying-for-the-government-of-canada/plan-the-procurement-strategy Edited February 15 by Bob Long 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimist Prime Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 When your Rage Farm might bring you the power you seek but the rage farm you made actually costs people lives: CSIS warns that the 'anti-gender movement' poses a threat of 'extreme violence' Intelligence agency says risk will 'almost certainly continue' over the coming year Quote Canada's intelligence agency is warning that extremists could "inspire and encourage" serious violence against the 2SLGBTQI+ community — a threat the Canadian Security Intelligence Service says almost certainly will continue over the coming year. CSIS's comments come as provincial policies on gender-affirming surgeries and pronoun preferences are being hotly debated across the country. "CSIS assesses that the violent threat posed by the anti-gender movement is almost certain to continue over the coming year and that violent actors may be inspired by the University of Waterloo attack to carry out their own extreme violence against the 2SLGBTQI+ community or against other targets they view as representing the gender ideology 'agenda,'" said CSIS spokesperson Eric Balsam in an email to CBC News. A former University of Waterloo student accused of unleashing on a gender-studies class with a knife last summer — sending an associate professor and two students to hospital — now faces 11 terrorism charges. The tone that con men like Baird and Poilievre set in the House and on the news each night has brought a segment of Canada to flying flags with curse words on them, people hunting the prime minister on the Governor Generals residence grounds, a moving group of magalike caravaners currently on a private farm in the prairies complete with their own "queen" and extremists of all kinds thinking 'they are about to take over' brownshirt style. These are my own take aways from many other situations that mirror this one at this news link; https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/csis-lgbtq-warning-violence-1.7114801 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Just now, Optimist Prime said: When your Rage Farm might bring you the power you seek but the rage farm you made actually costs people lives: CSIS warns that the 'anti-gender movement' poses a threat of 'extreme violence' Intelligence agency says risk will 'almost certainly continue' over the coming year The tone that con men like Baird and Poilievre set in the House and on the news each night has brought a segment of Canada to flying flags with curse words on them, people hunting the prime minister on the Governor Generals residence grounds, a moving group of magalike caravaners currently on a private farm in the prairies complete with their own "queen" and extremists of all kinds thinking 'they are about to take over' brownshirt style. These are my own take aways from many other situations that mirror this one at this news link; https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/csis-lgbtq-warning-violence-1.7114801 its pretty sad that Baird would be linked to this... I wonder if he'll make some sort of public statement, if you know what I mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 (edited) The dept that awarded these funds and the individual in government who gifted them as well as the how and why need to be investigated fully because this is bullshit and someone needs to be jailed for this at the least That being said you can see that this is red meat to the idiocy who think the guy in the seat is the guy that was signing the cheques as they've essentially and effectively blamed him and him alone. The children are going to be insufferable Edited February 15 by Warhippy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimist Prime Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 3 minutes ago, Bob Long said: its pretty sad that Baird would be linked to this... I wonder if he'll make some sort of public statement, if you know what I mean. To be clear, i am not linking Baird to this story, i am saying his rhetoric in the house and on the news for a decade and more has led to it being more acceptable to be a loud mouthed jerk on the verge of violence over every issue that one thinks affects them. Baird is too busy on the board of several Resource based corporations, post politics, to be linked to that particular story, sorry if i was confusing. You can't make it up though: Harper era Ministers raking in millions with several resource based corporations, it is almost as if the CONS are in the pocket of big Tar Sands. Quote Since leaving politics, Baird has accepted several private sector appointments. In June 2015 he was hired as a strategic adviser to Hatch Ltd, an international engineering and consulting firm for companies in the resource industr.... (cutting it short from his wiki page, there is a long enough list there if you are interested) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arrogant Worms Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 PP and friends want members to get security clearance without being vetted and investigated. What could go wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 10 hours ago, Duodenum said: A little more than $158 million of that sum — just over 66 per cent of the total — came from contracts awarded by the Canada Border Services Agency. I think this part might hint at what happened. If someone at GCS convinced the gov't that the new app had to be linked to their already expensive proprietary software, then thats where the 60 million would come into play. Thats my guess. Then they did a shite job of it, which is also not really surprising. I do think people need to chill on the criminal intent part, this might just be a case of really crappy contracting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimist Prime Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 5 hours ago, The Arrogant Worms said: PP and friends want members to get security clearance without being vetted and investigated. What could go wrong. Hard No. Even within the confines of the small group of men and women who have the highest clearance in the land: NEED TO KNOW is a prime prerequisite to finding out. There is no short cut to security at that level, this is unfortunate. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the destroyer of worlds Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 7 minutes ago, Optimist Prime said: Hard No. Even within the confines of the small group of men and women who have the highest clearance in the land: NEED TO KNOW is a prime prerequisite to finding out. There is no short cut to security at that level, this is unfortunate. Some Back Bencher doesn't need to know stuff that the Minister of Defense needs to know. Just because you are an MP, doesn't mean you should have access to stuff that should, at most, be given to a Cabinet Member. Hell, the Minister of Agriculture really doesn't need to know a lot of secret and top secret stuff that other Ministers need to know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 (edited) This bill brought to you by a lackey of the Conservative leader- who will not, or perhaps can not, pass a security clearance. Edited February 16 by Gurn punctuation 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Eh Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 On 2/15/2024 at 12:24 AM, the destroyer of worlds said: Well then whose fault is it really? The government had something they needed done. Only one company applied. That company got the contract. Most corrupt government Canada has ever seen, racketeering off of the pandemic. On 2/15/2024 at 2:53 AM, Elias Pettersson said: Makers of COVID-19 protective equipment seek over $5 billion in damages from Ottawa (msn.com) Makers of COVID-19 protective equipment seek over $5 billion in damages from Ottawa Canadian manufacturers of masks and other equipment for protecting against COVID-19 are seeking more than $5 billion in damages from the federal government, saying Ottawa misled them about buying and helping sell their products. In a statement of claim filed in Federal Court, the companies and their industry association allege the government made "negligent misrepresentations" that prompted them to invest in personal protection equipment innovations, manufacturing and production. The companies and the Canadian Association of PPE Manufacturers say the government made misleading statements about markets, direct assistance, flexible procurement and long-term support over a three-year period that began in March 2020. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Eh Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 19 hours ago, Optimist Prime said: When your Rage Farm might bring you the power you seek but the rage farm you made actually costs people lives: CSIS warns that the 'anti-gender movement' poses a threat of 'extreme violence' Intelligence agency says risk will 'almost certainly continue' over the coming year The tone that con men like Baird and Poilievre set in the House and on the news each night has brought a segment of Canada to flying flags with curse words on them, people hunting the prime minister on the Governor Generals residence grounds, a moving group of magalike caravaners currently on a private farm in the prairies complete with their own "queen" and extremists of all kinds thinking 'they are about to take over' brownshirt style. These are my own take aways from many other situations that mirror this one at this news link; https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/csis-lgbtq-warning-violence-1.7114801 Do they mean BillBoard Chris and Jordan Peterson. I haven't heard of an 'anti-gender movement' other than parents opposed to SOGI 123, so i'm assuming thats who they are referring to. Do you consider this person a member of the 'anti-gender movement'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Eh Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 The wording in your article is so CBC. "Intelligence agency says risk will 'almost certainly continue' over the coming year" Yet there isn't one example of anyone being attacked in Canada over a gender issue. Unless you count mean tweets from JBP. Jordan Peterson has been re-educated by his masters at the College of Psychiatrists of Ontario but it sounds like we won't be seeing any of his or any other differing opinions in Canada any more. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Ravioli Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 1 hour ago, Rob Eh said: Do they mean BillBoard Chris and Jordan Peterson. I haven't heard of an 'anti-gender movement' other than parents opposed to SOGI 123, so i'm assuming thats who they are referring to. Do you consider this person a member of the 'anti-gender movement'? That was embarrassing to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 2 hours ago, Rob Eh said: Most corrupt government Canada has ever seen, racketeering off of the pandemic. King-Byng affair was easily worse, as was Bernier allowing organized crime to access confidential documents during Harper's reign of terror. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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