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SK’s decision to remove the Trudeau carbon tax on home heating dropped SK’s inflation rate in Jan to 1.9 per cent, down from 2.7 per cent in Dec and well below the national rate of 2.9 per cent.

According to StatsCan: “In Saskatchewan, the collection of the carbon levy ceased in January 2024, contributing to the province's year-over-year price decline of natural gas (-26.6%).”

The Trudeau carbon tax was over a quarter of the cost of natural gas in SK.  If the feds are actually serious about fighting inflation, they would scrap the carbon tax on everyone and everything.

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1 hour ago, Elias Pettersson said:

Vicious rumour out there that Jagmeet has had enough of the coalition and that he is going to throw his BFF under the bus.  And an election could be called as soon as April.  I would bet big money that we have an election sometime in 2024…

The Libs govern by polls. They are so far down there is no way they are going to an election.

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31 minutes ago, Boudrias said:

The Libs govern by polls. They are so far down there is no way they are going to an election.

 

They won’t have a choice if Jagmeet ends the coalition.  I can see the NDP gaining a lot of seats if the election were held this year.  They even have a shot at being the official opposition party.  That hasn’t happened since the days of Jack Layton…

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31 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said:

 

They won’t have a choice if Jagmeet ends the coalition.  I can see the NDP gaining a lot of seats if the election were held this year.  They even have a shot at being the official opposition party.  That hasn’t happened since the days of Jack Layton…

I guess it would be his call. He can pick the most advantageous time for his party. The NDP would get some credit for bringing an unpopular PM to the electorate. Somehow I think PP labels the NDP/LIBERAL coalition as co-conspirators. 

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3 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said:

SK’s decision to remove the Trudeau carbon tax on home heating dropped SK’s inflation rate in Jan to 1.9 per cent, down from 2.7 per cent in Dec and well below the national rate of 2.9 per cent.

According to StatsCan: “In Saskatchewan, the collection of the carbon levy ceased in January 2024, contributing to the province's year-over-year price decline of natural gas (-26.6%).”

The Trudeau carbon tax was over a quarter of the cost of natural gas in SK.  If the feds are actually serious about fighting inflation, they would scrap the carbon tax on everyone and everything.

this is barely partially true.

 

Carbon taxes have actually been proven to have a nil effect on inflation.  When politicians make statements like this it really hammers home who really has agendas and indicates what they might be.

 

Moe is lying to people at worst but is definitely misleading them here.

 

https://policyoptions.irpp.org/magazines/december-2023/carbon-price-affordability/#:~:text=Recent research has clearly established,excise taxes) have contributed minimally.

 

The small cost of a carbon price

Recent research has clearly established that a significant portion of the increase in inflation stemmed from a global surge in energy prices. Carbon pricing and other indirect tax changes (such as sales and excise taxes) have contributed minimally. We know this because Statistics Canada regularly tracks and reports on price changes that strip out the effect of indirect taxes.

With the latest data, we find that the gradually increasing indirect taxes, including carbon taxes, have caused overall consumer prices to be only 0.6 per cent higher in October 2023 than they were in January 2015

This indicates that nearly all the overall price increases in 2021 through 2023 are due to other factors. Similarly, recent declines in inflation are primarily due to falling energy prices.

The effect of carbon pricing on rising food prices is even smaller, accounting for the indirect effects of carbon taxes.

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10 hours ago, Boudrias said:

I guess it would be his call. He can pick the most advantageous time for his party. The NDP would get some credit for bringing an unpopular PM to the electorate. Somehow I think PP labels the NDP/LIBERAL coalition as co-conspirators. 

 

Conspirators in what? 

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9 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

What's that now?  

 

Something you're attempting to say but can't articulate?

Why consider what fancy schmancy rigorous research has to say when you can just blindly trust what one man says?

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10 hours ago, Warhippy said:

this is barely partially true.

 

Carbon taxes have actually been proven to have a nil effect on inflation.  When politicians make statements like this it really hammers home who really has agendas and indicates what they might be.

 

Moe is lying to people at worst but is definitely misleading them here.

 

https://policyoptions.irpp.org/magazines/december-2023/carbon-price-affordability/#:~:text=Recent research has clearly established,excise taxes) have contributed minimally.

 

The small cost of a carbon price

Recent research has clearly established that a significant portion of the increase in inflation stemmed from a global surge in energy prices. Carbon pricing and other indirect tax changes (such as sales and excise taxes) have contributed minimally. We know this because Statistics Canada regularly tracks and reports on price changes that strip out the effect of indirect taxes.

With the latest data, we find that the gradually increasing indirect taxes, including carbon taxes, have caused overall consumer prices to be only 0.6 per cent higher in October 2023 than they were in January 2015

This indicates that nearly all the overall price increases in 2021 through 2023 are due to other factors. Similarly, recent declines in inflation are primarily due to falling energy prices.

The effect of carbon pricing on rising food prices is even smaller, accounting for the indirect effects of carbon taxes.

 

More bs from the CPC peanut gallery. Every province except Alberta saw a big drop in January. This is the report Moe "quotes" - I guess Saskatchewan effected the whole country! 

 

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/240220/dq240220a-eng.htm

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13 minutes ago, Bob Long said:

 

More bs from the CPC peanut gallery. Every province except Alberta saw a big drop in January. This is the report Moe "quotes" - I guess Saskatchewan effected the whole country! 

 

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/240220/dq240220a-eng.htm

That's right and a huge part of my response.  It is incredibly disingenuous to suggest that somehow removing an incredibly small portion of a small tax that doesn't actually affect the day to day life or transport of the average individual or business outside of a once a month payment (heating bills average out to a 32 day billing cycle in Sask) in such a manner that it would drop inflation levels appreciably.

 

It is yet another smear against the intelligence of Canadians and it is just shameful that we have 8 (?) provinces that are run by Conservatives and have essentially been run by Conservative parties for at least 7 years of the current federal parties run and over that 7 years or so there has been a near majority of those premiers blaming their every failure to lead or innovate things that are at the provincial levels and under their jurisdiction. 

 

The intentional and willing narrative being pushed by these provincial leaders to mislead voters and confuse them on the issues of jurisdictional rule by promoting the idea that every boogeyman or issue in the every day life of said voters is the fault of the PM and leading party of Canada is at best merely intentionally misleading and at worst borderline subversion and coercion of the voters and intentional erosion of the PMO based on party lines.

 

Moe is one of the more egregious, only in line with or behind the [insert Premiere of the day] in Alberta and Ford in Ontario

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12 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

That's right and a huge part of my response.  It is incredibly disingenuous to suggest that somehow removing an incredibly small portion of a small tax that doesn't actually affect the day to day life or transport of the average individual or business outside of a once a month payment (heating bills average out to a 32 day billing cycle in Sask) in such a manner that it would drop inflation levels appreciably.

 

It is yet another smear against the intelligence of Canadians and it is just shameful that we have 8 (?) provinces that are run by Conservatives and have essentially been run by Conservative parties for at least 7 years of the current federal parties run and over that 7 years or so there has been a near majority of those premiers blaming their every failure to lead or innovate things that are at the provincial levels and under their jurisdiction. 

 

The intentional and willing narrative being pushed by these provincial leaders to mislead voters and confuse them on the issues of jurisdictional rule by promoting the idea that every boogeyman or issue in the every day life of said voters is the fault of the PM and leading party of Canada is at best merely intentionally misleading and at worst borderline subversion and coercion of the voters and intentional erosion of the PMO based on party lines.

 

Moe is one of the more egregious, only in line with or behind the [insert Premiere of the day] in Alberta and Ford in Ontario

 

Moe is the worst of them imo. What his party has done to the SK psyche is sad. 

 

Yeah they rely on people not being able to do one click of homework. Now, all parties massage stats favourably to some degree, but the way the CPC and their provincial counterparts do it is often just outright misdirection. 

 

And it actually doesn't matter. What SK and AB get upset over usually has no effect on the country. No one is switching from the CPC there, except maybe around Edmonton to  NDP.

 

 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Bob Long said:

 

Moe is the worst of them imo. What his party has done to the SK psyche is sad. 

 

Yeah they rely on people not being able to do one click of homework. Now, all parties massage stats favourably to some degree, but the way the CPC and their provincial counterparts do it is often just outright misdirection. 

 

And it actually doesn't matter. What SK and AB get upset over usually has no effect on the country. No one is switching from the CPC there, except maybe around Edmonton to  NDP.

 

 

 

 

Speaking of misdirection and misleading the voters.

 

Brought to you by the party that doesn't seem to think that climate change or corporate over reach in our housing energy and food markets are an issue.

 

They are proud to bring to you what is obviously the BIGGEST issue in Canada today

 

Who is using what bathroom and what is in their pants.

 

FFS you can not make this crap up.  I'd LOVE to debate this idiot about the real issues facing people in our nation.  That's how he is getting his wins.  He is 100% taking people with no real concept of what's going on in our nation to task because like himself, they are out of touch with the real issues.  

 

If he had a sit down debate with any family man/woman or parent with an education he'd be fucking shredded by suggesting this is an issue in their lives.

 

Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre stepped into the debate over trans rights on Wednesday, saying "biological males" should be banned from women's sports, change rooms and bathrooms. 

"Female spaces should be exclusively for females, not for biological males," Poilievre said in Kitchener, Ont., on Wednesday. 

The Conservative leader made the comments after being asked if as prime minister he would introduce legislation to prevent "transgender women" or "biological men" from participating in female sports or entering female prisons and shelters. 

"A lot of the spaces … are provincially and municipally controlled, so it is unclear ... what reach federal legislation would have to change them," Poilievre said. 

"But obviously female sports, female change rooms, female bathrooms should be for females, not for biological males," he added. 

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