Warhippy Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 And going back even further. Poiliverre forgets his own past by once again bringin up Trudeaus use of blackface like he didn't shit on the entirety of the first nations individuals in our nation or back the "barbaric practices bill" vociferously that effectively defamed every south east asian and muslim individual in our nation because they weren't christian enough All this clown has is anger. You say I like drip coffee he is telling people that you hate the dairy industry because lattes aren't good enough for you. Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre said Wednesday his party is vehemently opposed to the government's forthcoming online harms legislation, a bill designed to combat hate speech, terrorist content and some violent material on the internet. Saying he won't accept "Justin Trudeau's woke authoritarian agenda," Poilievre said the prime minister and his government shouldn't be deciding what constitutes "hate speech" online and called the legislation an "attack on freedom of expression." "Justin Trudeau said anyone who criticized him during the pandemic was engaging in hate speech," Poilievre said, citing Trudeau's COVID-era comment that trucker convoy protesters were "a small fringe minority" who were "holding unacceptable views." The Liberal government has touted the legislation as a way to rein in online abuse and force social media companies to do a better job of policing platforms where degrading content is a regular feature of the user experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 When I speak of Provincial leaders misdirecting people about their jurisdictional powers. education is one of them With no less than 8 of our provinces run by Conservative governments; one really has to wonder how and why canada all of a sudden seems to enjoy banning books as well This movement is picking up steam and the criteria of what is and is not banned and why should be questioned to the extreme especially as the bans are predominantly and seemingly only in Conservative governed provinces. Danny Ramadan recalls self-censoring his writing in Syria before his arrival in Canada 10 years ago. Now, as an advocate for 2SLGBTQ+ refugees and an author exploring belonging, displacement and identity, he says navigating book challenges is a somewhat expected part of being published. Still, when an Ontario school board shadow-banned his children's title Salma Writes a Book last fall — the school libraries carried it, but restricted students' access — Ramadan was floored. "I expected the book to be banned in Florida. I was just extremely shocked when I found out that it was banned here, on our home turf here in Canada. It just felt dizzying," he said from Vancouver. As Canada marks the 40th anniversary of Freedom to Read Week — first founded amid an uproar against Ontario high school seniors studying Margaret Laurence's novel The Diviners — authors, teachers and librarians are highlighting the importance of students' access to different perspectives in their school libraries and the need for schools to have (and stick to) clear policies when navigating book challenges. In November, staffers in the Waterloo Catholic District School Board flagged to Ramadan that Salma Writes a Book, an instalment of his ongoing kids' series about a young immigrant in Canada, had been restricted in their school libraries (along with other titles). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 4 minutes ago, Warhippy said: And going back even further. Poiliverre forgets his own past by once again bringin up Trudeaus use of blackface like he didn't shit on the entirety of the first nations individuals in our nation or back the "barbaric practices bill" vociferously that effectively defamed every south east asian and muslim individual in our nation because they weren't christian enough All this clown has is anger. You say I like drip coffee he is telling people that you hate the dairy industry because lattes aren't good enough for you. Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre said Wednesday his party is vehemently opposed to the government's forthcoming online harms legislation, a bill designed to combat hate speech, terrorist content and some violent material on the internet. Saying he won't accept "Justin Trudeau's woke authoritarian agenda," Poilievre said the prime minister and his government shouldn't be deciding what constitutes "hate speech" online and called the legislation an "attack on freedom of expression." "Justin Trudeau said anyone who criticized him during the pandemic was engaging in hate speech," Poilievre said, citing Trudeau's COVID-era comment that trucker convoy protesters were "a small fringe minority" who were "holding unacceptable views." The Liberal government has touted the legislation as a way to rein in online abuse and force social media companies to do a better job of policing platforms where degrading content is a regular feature of the user experience. and yet Pee-Pee wants his hands all over what he deems "porn": All the Cons have to do is "run out the clock" and get a majority government. Keep your yap shut & let Castro Jr. self destruct. But nope, Pee-Pee can't help it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 25 minutes ago, Warhippy said: Speaking of misdirection and misleading the voters. Brought to you by the party that doesn't seem to think that climate change or corporate over reach in our housing energy and food markets are an issue. They are proud to bring to you what is obviously the BIGGEST issue in Canada today Who is using what bathroom and what is in their pants. FFS you can not make this crap up. I'd LOVE to debate this idiot about the real issues facing people in our nation. That's how he is getting his wins. He is 100% taking people with no real concept of what's going on in our nation to task because like himself, they are out of touch with the real issues. If he had a sit down debate with any family man/woman or parent with an education he'd be fucking shredded by suggesting this is an issue in their lives. Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre stepped into the debate over trans rights on Wednesday, saying "biological males" should be banned from women's sports, change rooms and bathrooms. "Female spaces should be exclusively for females, not for biological males," Poilievre said in Kitchener, Ont., on Wednesday. The Conservative leader made the comments after being asked if as prime minister he would introduce legislation to prevent "transgender women" or "biological men" from participating in female sports or entering female prisons and shelters. "A lot of the spaces … are provincially and municipally controlled, so it is unclear ... what reach federal legislation would have to change them," Poilievre said. "But obviously female sports, female change rooms, female bathrooms should be for females, not for biological males," he added. honestly to me its just cowardly. Pick on people that are some of the most vulnerable for political points. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 18 minutes ago, NewbieCanuckFan said: and yet Pee-Pee wants his hands all over what he deems "porn": All the Cons have to do is "run out the clock" and get a majority government. Keep your yap shut & let Castro Jr. self destruct. But nope, Pee-Pee can't help it. this is the stuff that keeps getting the CPC in 2nd place Castro Jr is actually doing a lot of things in the meantime that people care about, like daycare, dental and - finally - housing. He dropped 2 billion into BC yesterday, and PP is trying to monitor your online life. #winning? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
112 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 29 minutes ago, Warhippy said: Speaking of misdirection and misleading the voters. Brought to you by the party that doesn't seem to think that climate change or corporate over reach in our housing energy and food markets are an issue. They are proud to bring to you what is obviously the BIGGEST issue in Canada today Who is using what bathroom and what is in their pants. FFS you can not make this crap up. I'd LOVE to debate this idiot about the real issues facing people in our nation. That's how he is getting his wins. He is 100% taking people with no real concept of what's going on in our nation to task because like himself, they are out of touch with the real issues. If he had a sit down debate with any family man/woman or parent with an education he'd be fucking shredded by suggesting this is an issue in their lives. Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre stepped into the debate over trans rights on Wednesday, saying "biological males" should be banned from women's sports, change rooms and bathrooms. "Female spaces should be exclusively for females, not for biological males," Poilievre said in Kitchener, Ont., on Wednesday. The Conservative leader made the comments after being asked if as prime minister he would introduce legislation to prevent "transgender women" or "biological men" from participating in female sports or entering female prisons and shelters. "A lot of the spaces … are provincially and municipally controlled, so it is unclear ... what reach federal legislation would have to change them," Poilievre said. "But obviously female sports, female change rooms, female bathrooms should be for females, not for biological males," he added. The courts would shut this down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 2 minutes ago, 112 said: The courts would shut this down. even if it stood a challenge, its just stupid posturing. Its also really creepy, I mean who are you submitting your ID too? "Keep the cons out of your bedroom" will be a big election issue now. What an idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 25 minutes ago, NewbieCanuckFan said: and yet Pee-Pee wants his hands all over what he deems "porn": All the Cons have to do is "run out the clock" and get a majority government. Keep your yap shut & let Castro Jr. self destruct. But nope, Pee-Pee can't help it. Sex is soo scary to some people. View all the death and destrution you want, glorify it even. But sex, and naked bodies...no! If he's going to go after enforcing age limits...I would understand more if it was a look at social media. Maybe no social media until the age of 16? It's the thing really doing damage to our youth, and well, a lot of us. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 3 minutes ago, bishopshodan said: Sex is soo scary to some people. View all the death and destrution you want, glorify it even. But sex, and naked bodies...no! If he's going to go after enforcing age limits...I would understand more if it was a look at social media. Maybe no social media until the age of 16? It's the thing really doing damage to our youth, and well, a lot of us. So you stand with the pornographers then. Its just pathetic. PP and the CPC have no real ideas so they trot out this kind of crap. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 112 Posted February 21 Popular Post Share Posted February 21 1 minute ago, Bob Long said: even if it stood a challenge, its just stupid posturing. Its also really creepy, I mean who are you submitting your ID too? "Keep the cons out of your bedroom" will be a big election issue now. What an idiot. I was replying to the "keep trans people out of their appropriate bathrooms, etc." comments and not the porn comment, but it does go for that too. I think the basis for the ID procurement would be to keep children off of porn sites, but that should be up to parents--parental controls, supervision, or what-have-you--and not the websites. Just don't give your kid unfettered access to the internet at a young age and there's nothing to worry about. 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 (edited) 2 minutes ago, 112 said: I was replying to the "keep trans people out of their appropriate bathrooms, etc." comments and not the porn comment, but it does go for that too. ah. Yeah on that one PP is even more out to lunch. All he's going to do is create more psycho's that "police" bathrooms and cause problems. 2 minutes ago, 112 said: I think the basis for the ID procurement would be to keep children off of porn sites, but that should be up to parents--parental controls, supervision, or what-have-you--and not the websites. Just don't give your kid unfettered access to the internet at a young age and there's nothing to worry about. until junior learns about free VPNs, which I imagine will happen at the 1st recess of the school year. Edited February 21 by Bob Long 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupertKBD Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 All I can say is that I'm glad my girls have all graduated high school. With the conservative's attempts to mirror the MAGA agenda to the south, it makes me worry about Canadian children growing up completely ignorant of the real world. Sex education is just one area. How long before we start to see curricula that omit teaching about the Residential School system, because we don't want non-Indigenous kids to "feel bad". They should feel bad. Not because it's something they did, or didn't do....because it was a horrific abuse of human rights, perpetrated by the Church and the Governments of the day. Kids should know the dangers of such thinking, lest it shape their worldview into adulthood. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 3 minutes ago, bishopshodan said: Sex is soo scary to some people. View all the death and destrution you want, glorify it even. But sex, and naked bodies...no! If he's going to go after enforcing age limits...I would understand more if it was a look at social media. Maybe no social media until the age of 16? It's the thing really doing damage to our youth, and well, a lot of us. There's some wild stuff out there, it isn't just sex and naked bodies. Making it more difficult for kids to access this doesn't sound like a bad thing. I agree that making social media less accessible for kids would also be beneficial. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 1 minute ago, 112 said: Just don't give your kid unfettered access to the internet As a non-breeder this might be my biggest criticism I have, that I see parents allow. It's insane to me. Giving your childs mind over to the dangerous abyss that is the internet. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RupertKBD Posted February 21 Popular Post Share Posted February 21 3 minutes ago, Bob Long said: So you stand with the pornographers then. Its just pathetic. PP and the CPC have no real ideas so they trot out this kind of crap. I know I do.... I don't want to live in a world where we have to go back to the Sears catalog.... 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 Just now, Master Mind said: There's some wild stuff out there, it isn't just sex and naked bodies. Making it more difficult for kids to access this doesn't sound like a bad thing. but you know that the ID thing is borrowed from the US, and it also doesn't work. Its political theatre, and does nothing. Just now, Master Mind said: I agree that making social media less accessible for kids would also be beneficial. education is the way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 If you want to know what Poilievere is thinking, just look to the US right. He's borrowing all of the divisive playbook from them. "Parents rights" "scary bathrooms" "porn ID". Its all been done months ago in the US. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 1 minute ago, Master Mind said: There's some wild stuff out there, it isn't just sex and naked bodies. Making it more difficult for kids to access this doesn't sound like a bad thing. I agree that making social media less accessible for kids would also be beneficial. It's mostly on the parents imo. There is too much wild stuff on the internet...nevermind porn ...that is very, very inappropriate for children. Come on breeders. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 5 minutes ago, Bob Long said: but you know that the ID thing is borrowed from the US, and it also doesn't work. Its political theatre, and does nothing. education is the way. I saw they were considering adding it in the US, has it been implemented? Education is of course important, but if we know something is bad, why give kids access to it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
112 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 4 minutes ago, bishopshodan said: It's mostly on the parents imo. There is too much wild stuff on the internet...nevermind porn ...that is very, very inappropriate for children. Come on breeders. This is true. I grew up with mostly unrestricted access to the internet and am guilty of consuming content that was not right for a young and impressionable mind (gore, etc.). Not to mention a lot of young people, males especially, get caught up in hateful dialogue they witness from extremist creators and speakers and end up holding bigoted views. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 6 minutes ago, bishopshodan said: It's mostly on the parents imo. There is too much wild stuff on the internet...nevermind porn ...that is very, very inappropriate for children. Come on breeders. I don't disagree with this. But if porn is inappropriate for children, why not at least make that one thing that's tougher for them to access? Can still look into solutions for all the other inappropriate stuff online. If we know something is inappropriate, I don't think it makes sense to ignore that just because there are other inappropriate things. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 8 minutes ago, Master Mind said: I saw they were considering adding it in the US, has it been implemented? Arkansas I believe 8 minutes ago, Master Mind said: Education is of course important, but if we know something is bad, why give kids access to it? That's a red herring tho, access is already there and can't be prevented using ID. It's like saying don't let kids catch a cold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggums Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 Poiliviere wants to allow more free speech and not allow children to watch porn and people are completely up in arms about it? Lol 15 minutes ago, Bob Long said: If you want to know what Poilievere is thinking, just look to the US right. He's borrowing all of the divisive playbook from them. "Parents rights" "scary bathrooms" "porn ID". Its all been done months ago in the US. All of those things being introduced is what caused to divisiveness in the first place. Children are easily manipulated and the left wants to feed them porn then allow them to decide they're a different sex, all on their own. Fuckin weird man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 Just now, Wiggums said: Poiliviere wants to allow more free speech and not allow children to watch porn and people are completely up in arms about it? Lol All of those things being introduced is what caused to divisiveness in the first place. No wigs, those attempts at division are created by the US right. Just now, Wiggums said: Children are easily manipulated and the left wants to feed them porn then allow them to decide they're a different sex, all on their own. Fuckin weird man Cool narrative. It's not happening but yet here you are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggums Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 23 minutes ago, RupertKBD said: All I can say is that I'm glad my girls have all graduated high school. With the conservative's attempts to mirror the MAGA agenda to the south, it makes me worry about Canadian children growing up completely ignorant of the real world. Sex education is just one area. How long before we start to see curricula that omit teaching about the Residential School system, because we don't want non-Indigenous kids to "feel bad". They should feel bad. Not because it's something they did, or didn't do....because it was a horrific abuse of human rights, perpetrated by the Church and the Governments of the day. Kids should know the dangers of such thinking, lest it shape their worldview into adulthood. You're glad they are done school already? You don't say? Wouldn't you have much rather them have grown up in the current school system? Learning about strap ons and such? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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