RupertKBD Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 I gotta say...the Cons wanting to set up a "porn Registry" as it were stands in stark contrast to their reaction to the Liberals' Gun registry.....both are wasteful and ineffective.... One can only surmise that conservatives believe that porn is more dangerous than guns..... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 3 minutes ago, the destroyer of worlds said: There's also this thing called VPN. SOooooo many ways to circumvent PPs dumb idea. Stashing found porn under a floorboard in the treehouse retro flashback I'm of age and I'd just use a VPN instead of giving my personal data. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 5 minutes ago, the destroyer of worlds said: There's also this thing called VPN. SOooooo many ways to circumvent PPs dumb idea. Stashing found porn under a floorboard in the treehouse retro flashback It's based on the idea that kids have no other options. And they know it won't pass, it just more disingenuous cpc horseshit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4petesake Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 Just now, the destroyer of worlds said: There's also this thing called VPN. SOooooo many ways to circumvent PPs dumb idea. Stashing found porn under a floorboard in the treehouse retro flashback A horny teenager’s determination has no limits. Late nights looking at a scrambled tv picture hoping that if you watched closely enough you’d spot a titty. Best you can do is to make sure that the settings are used and protected that prevent a device from viewing pornographic material and to monitor your child’s browser history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 24 minutes ago, Bob Long said: Also, how does what PP suggest prevent kids from going to other internet sites that won't ask what age they are? you might be exposing kids to far worse content. Can't the kids already go to other sites with worse content? It seems to me that the idea behind this is to make it more difficult for kids to access harmful content. If this was implemented properly (of course, that's a big if) then this would achieve that. Again, can't prevent it entirely, but if you can get some kids to not access, or not as often/easily, that seems beneficial. I'm open to counterpoints but so far all I'm seeing is that "it won't work", but I don't think that's entirely true. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 16 minutes ago, Miss Korea said: Really? I didn't realize OP chose who his mother would be. He'd be choosing to visit her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 2 minutes ago, Master Mind said: Can't the kids already go to other sites with worse content? Yep. So why do this other useless thing? 2 minutes ago, Master Mind said: It seems to me that the idea behind this is to make it more difficult for kids to access harmful content. If this was implemented properly (of course, that's a big if) then this would achieve that. Again, can't prevent it entirely, but if you can get some kids to not access, or not as often/easily, that seems beneficial. I'm open to counterpoints but so far all I'm seeing is that "it won't work", but I don't think that's entirely true. But you just admitted kids will have other sites to go to. They can also just use a free VPN. Again, it's theatre. Ask yourself, why is PP focusing on bathrooms and ideas from maga Alabama? Where's his solutions for our actual problems? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 2 minutes ago, Bob Long said: Yep. So why do this other useless thing? But you just admitted kids will have other sites to go to. They can also just use a free VPN. Again, it's theatre. Ask yourself, why is PP focusing on bathrooms and ideas from maga Alabama? Where's his solutions for our actual problems? Start out by making it difficult to access some sites, the biggest ones. Then when enough people discover the alternatives, you apply it there too. Perhaps there's a better method but I think it's better than doing nothing and keeping a problem as status quo. Guess we'll just agree to disagree on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the destroyer of worlds Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 4 minutes ago, Bob Long said: Yep. So why do this other useless thing? But you just admitted kids will have other sites to go to. They can also just use a free VPN. Again, it's theatre. Ask yourself, why is PP focusing on bathrooms and ideas from maga Alabama? Where's his solutions for our actual problems? It's because he has only one solution. Voodoo economics. Thing is, he could introduce legislation right now. There is no need to wait until an election to do anything. Just like the MAGA morons down south, he could provide a solution to pressing problems RIGHT NOW and get all parties on the record regarding their vote. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggums Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 1 hour ago, 4petesake said: Your quote “lynching people in the streets…” The guy who tried to argue that he said “and” and not “to” is going to play the semantics card? People dragging other people out of their cars and kicking them in the head until they're bleeding and unresponsive. Yeah a borderline lynching in my eyes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 3 minutes ago, Master Mind said: Start out by making it difficult to access some sites, the biggest ones. Then when enough people discover the alternatives, you apply it there too. How? How would you actually do that? They can't prevent that now. 3 minutes ago, Master Mind said: Perhaps there's a better method but I think it's better than doing nothing and keeping a problem as status quo. Guess we'll just agree to disagree on this one. The onus is on PP to show a plan that works, and all he seems to have is an amorphous "do something" with no guarantee of any benefit or examination of potential harms. Its not well thought out at all, because it's primary purpose is political division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 2 hours ago, Master Mind said: Age restrictions don't mean anything if you can simply lie in the click of a button stating you're of age. Whereas age restrictions in other areas are more enforced. People will still get fake ids etc but not all will. I'm not arguing against education, but I don't see how a combination of that with better enforcement such as ids wouldn't be beneficial. A person isn't shaped solely by their parents. There's plenty of other influences, whether it's other family, friends, colleagues, social media, etc. Parents can only do so much, both positively and negatively. We agree mostly. And how would they really govern it without everyone giving up their personal info ( any age) to random websites? I cant see that people wouldnt see that as more infringements on their freedom. Guess what i am wondering is... When I was a kid ( up to 16) our parents would demand to know; where we were going, who we were going there with, and what we were doing there... Why is that not the norm for parents when it comes to the internet? I think it would be acceptable and encouraged that parents to go through thier kids online devices regularly. 1 hour ago, Miss Korea said: Wow - that is a serious Big Brother suggestion you're making here. Imagine the Government of Canada implementing the Great Firewall. I don't even know how you'd achieve that. Think of it more like a drivers license. You can go all the places that the vehicle can as long as you have supervision. Once you are 16 you can start venturing out alone. We are talking about kid's access to dangerous influences here. They do not, and shouldnt, have all ths same rights as adults. There are obviously many examples of this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 7 minutes ago, the destroyer of worlds said: It's because he has only one solution. Voodoo economics. Thing is, he could introduce legislation right now. There is no need to wait until an election to do anything. Just like the MAGA morons down south, he could provide a solution to pressing problems RIGHT NOW and get all parties on the record regarding their vote. Bingo. Instead we get recycled maga. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satchmo Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 3 minutes ago, Wiggums said: People dragging other people out of their cars and kicking them in the head until they're bleeding and unresponsive. Yeah a borderline lynching in my eyes. You seem so opposed to 'cancel culture' and the renaming of things. I think you are doing something very similar here. I'd call your definition word theft. Kinda like what happened to the word 'woke'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 8 minutes ago, Wiggums said: People dragging other people out of their cars and kicking them in the head until they're bleeding and unresponsive. Yeah a borderline lynching in my eyes. When did that happen in Canada? 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 1 minute ago, Bob Long said: When did that happen in Canada? There it is Jimmy!!!! I love you @Ribs 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6of1_halfdozenofother Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 16 minutes ago, bishopshodan said: And how would they really govern it without everyone giving up their personal info ( any age) to random websites? I cant see that people wouldnt see that as more infringements on their freedom. Or a determined breeder's kid from divulging the breeder's personal info and masquerading as the breeder when accessing those sites? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggums Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 13 minutes ago, Bob Long said: When did that happen in Canada? Never said it did 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 Just now, Wiggums said: Never said it did So why are you bringing it up in the Canadian politics thread? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 Hey look, we're talking about recycled maga ideas, when just yesterday Trudeau dropped 2 billion into BC housing. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arrogant Worms Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 Petulant Pierre sat on his ass in Parliament for 24 years at our expense. Meanwhile: He voted to ban abortions He voted to cancel Veterans Disability pension He voted against workers rights He voted AGAINST housing initiatives He voted to raise the retirement age He voted to slash OAS/CPP He voted for scabs He refused security clearance . WHY?? He instructed his MPs to keep silent on gay rights. He voted to cancel school lunch programs for children experiencing poverty Not a word about the death of Navalny! He could care less about the climate He's been flying all over the country to put himself into power on our dime He shamelessly lies and misinforms He diagnostically fills several criteria for sociopathology 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4petesake Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 31 minutes ago, Wiggums said: People dragging other people out of their cars and kicking them in the head until they're bleeding and unresponsive. Yeah a borderline lynching in my eyes. On video Rodney King, a black man, was pulled from his car and viciously beaten by police officers in 1991. In the riots that ensued after the acquittal of the officers an attack was caught on camera by a news crew in which Reginald Denny, white, was pulled from his truck and severely beaten by four black men, and then rescued by four other black LA residents. Nobody ever justified these violent assaults then and there is no justification for the beating in the one you posted. But this is the important part - none of these people were lynched. Lynching is something else entirely, something very specific. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupertKBD Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 Y'know, the more I think about it, the more this idea of making people sign into offensive websites has merit.....but we need to be equitable in how we apply the standards.... A lot was made recently about the "Prove You're Human" test that most of us had to take to log into CFF....Maybe there should be a "Prove You're Inhuman" test for people logging into sites like Breitbart, Turning Point, InfoWars, Calgary Herald and National Post.... Post a grid of 9 androgynous looking folks and ask them to click on all the Trannies.....(just for fun, include a photo of a transmission as well).... I mean, I'd argue that looking at the content of those sites is every bit as damaging as the content of Pornhub.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
112 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 35 minutes ago, RupertKBD said: Y'know, the more I think about it, the more this idea of making people sign into offensive websites has merit.....but we need to be equitable in how we apply the standards.... A lot was made recently about the "Prove You're Human" test that most of us had to take to log into CFF....Maybe there should be a "Prove You're Inhuman" test for people logging into sites like Breitbart, Turning Point, InfoWars, Calgary Herald and National Post.... Post a grid of 9 androgynous looking folks and ask them to click on all the Trannies.....(just for fun, include a photo of a transmission as well).... I mean, I'd argue that looking at the content of those sites is every bit as damaging as the content of Pornhub.... I think you're being facetious here but I really would not like for the government to restrict Canadian's access to any of those sites, even while they may be damaging. It's too much of an encroachment against fundamental freedoms and privacy. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimist Prime Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 3 hours ago, Master Mind said: You can believe this but it's faulty logic. @Optimist Prime has stated (he can correct me if I'm wrong) that his mother had bigoted views, but he'd visit his mother. By this logic, he'd be a bigot, which I think we both believe would not be true. Haha, you are spot on MM, with regard to my mom, but she wasn't a nazi. She was a living anachronism. Her mom was born in 1889 and they had 'help' in the house as mom grew up...she was definitely racist, but didn't think she was. Still not a nazi. I love kris rock, but maybe if the ten guys hanging out with a nazi were hailing when they arrived and left...then you would have 11 nazis. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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