aGENT Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 22 hours ago, Ricky Ravioli said: Would you say the same about the freedom convey? People were real quick to judge and lump people in to groups just because of the actions of a few bad apples, so I'm curious if you would have the same approach? Besides the fact that one didn't actually happen in Canada, and the one that didn't, actually had real human rights issues to protest about, and wasn't trying to shut down borders or overthrow a legally elected government.... 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 3 hours ago, Bob Long said: It'll shrink as he continues to tell us who he really is, a hateful little dweeb. I'm sure the upcoming liberal ads will highlight all of his less than stellar qualities. Then we'll see where the chips really fall. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Just now, JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo said: I'm sure the upcoming liberal ads will highlight all of his less than stellar qualities. Then we'll see where the chips really fall. the biggest issue for me is whether or not the left will vote split. I know I'll be voting for either the Libs or NDP federally, depending on which candidate has the best chance to beat the con in my riding. I'm hoping other "lefties" do the same. Looking at you @bishopshodan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupertKBD Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 I live in solid NDP country, so it doesn't really matter who I vote for. That being said, I've met our MP and I like him, so I have no problem with seeing him get a second term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 3 minutes ago, RupertKBD said: I live in solid NDP country, my condolences. I kid. 3 minutes ago, RupertKBD said: so it doesn't really matter who I vote for. That being said, I've met our MP and I like him, so I have no problem with seeing him get a second term. I do think vote splitting can and should be on the left side radar though. PP is such a little creep, who is bringing an agenda to Canada that we just don't need. I personally hope people who normally vote NDP can hold their nose and vote for hair boy if it means beating the local con, and vice versa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupertKBD Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 5 minutes ago, Bob Long said: I personally hope people who normally vote NDP can hold their nose and vote for hair boy if it means beating the local con, and vice versa. It's something I would consider, if I thought it had even a slight chance.... I had to do quite a bit of searching, because I honestly had no idea who the Liberal candidate in my riding would be. Apparently, it's an Indo-Canadian woman named Lakhwinder Jhaj. The problem is, she doesn't live here: https://www.interior-news.com/news/liberals-choose-fraser-valley-resident-as-skeena-bulkley-valley-candidate-for-federal-election-6496564 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 (edited) 11 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: PP was literally asked a question by a reporter and answered it. So why the spin that he’s trying to make this the BIGGEST issue in Canada? Are you suggesting that PP is not supposed to answer reporters questions unless it involves the economy? What spin? This is and has been one of his largest talking points and that of the Conservative brand at the provincial levels. This strawman bullshit is childish and it is again, telling of people on this poltical spectrum that they can't avoid a strawman statement or argument as opposed to admitting that the social policies that are being pushed by the Conservative brand are repugnant. So much so that they will willingly accept it as long as they don't have to admit they are wrong. ' 'I might point out as well that PP makes this an issue, makes these statements, promises this legislation. But blames the obsession on trudeau claiming HE is the one making it an issue. Edited February 22 by Warhippy 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Just...Conservative things of importance https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/residents-of-alberta-town-to-vote-on-bylaw-that-would-ban-rainbow-crosswalks-1.7120498 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 11 minutes ago, Warhippy said: Just...Conservative things of importance https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/residents-of-alberta-town-to-vote-on-bylaw-that-would-ban-rainbow-crosswalks-1.7120498 It would be funny if not so pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSVII Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 10 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: The degradation and humiliation of women that you see in porn, and in some cases actual violence, specifically in orgies and gang bangs, isn’t considered “just sex” IMO. Would you do that kind of stuff to your partner that you see in porn? I think you just haven’t watched a lot of porn to know this stuff, which is okay and I am happy about that. I agree that it is degrading and bad for both men and women, participants and consumers, and it is a societal issue in terms of mental health. What I'm worried about mainly is how the Conservatives define porn, or whoever in charge of policy defines it. There's already a lot of hints from conservative think tanks in the states that 'porn' will eventually encompass LGBT+. I can see the slippery slope being applied to educational material that could be tied to Antifa and BLM. I simply don't trust anyone's judgment on what constitutes porn, and we shouldn't open that pandora's box because it will be used to infringe on people's rights down the line. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 1 minute ago, DSVII said: There's already a lot of hints from conservative think tanks in the states that 'porn' will eventually encompass LGBT+. this is exactly what would happen, there's no doubt whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 13 minutes ago, Bob Long said: It would be funny if not so pathetic. The brand has made gender and orientation issues such a HUGE part of their platform either in passing or in merit that it is beyond concerning. I won't bring up the abortion fight but the slope from censorship and book bannings to control over bodily autonomy are not exactly that far away from each other 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Just now, Warhippy said: The brand has made gender and orientation issues such a HUGE part of their platform either in passing or in merit that it is beyond concerning. I won't bring up the abortion fight but the slope from censorship and book bannings to control over bodily autonomy are not exactly that far away from each other I'd like to take some rural Albertans on a field trip to Denmark and show them gender neutral bathrooms. They'd probably stand at the door and piss their pants in confusion. We have to disallow this move to create theocratic laws. I wish Jag and Justin had the balls to bring in ranked ballot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Ravioli Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 1 hour ago, aGENT said: Besides the fact that one didn't actually happen in Canada, and the one that didn't, actually had real human rights issues to protest about, and wasn't trying to shut down borders or overthrow a legally elected government.... I wasn't the original to bring it up, so if you have a problem talk to them. That is your opinion. Lots would say those riots south of the border didn't do much to help anything at all. Can you speak to the "overthrow of a legally elected government"? I saw a petition and lots of calls from them to speak to Justin Trudeau but never saw any attempts to "overthrow the government" Are you sure you are in the right thread? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 9 minutes ago, Ricky Ravioli said: I wasn't the original to bring it up, so if you have a problem talk to them. That is your opinion. Lots would say those riots south of the border didn't do much to help anything at all. Can you speak to the "overthrow of a legally elected government"? I saw a petition and lots of calls from them to speak to Justin Trudeau but never saw any attempts to "overthrow the government" Are you sure you are in the right thread? your defence of the trucker protest morons is admirable. Someone has to stand for the low IQ I suppose. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Ricky Ravioli said: I wasn't the original to bring it up, so if you have a problem talk to them. That is your opinion. Lots would say those riots south of the border didn't do much to help anything at all. Can you speak to the "overthrow of a legally elected government"? I saw a petition and lots of calls from them to speak to Justin Trudeau but never saw any attempts to "overthrow the government" Are you sure you are in the right thread? The original Memorandum of Understanding by the Freedom ConvoyCanada Unity organizers. before of course they changed it https://www.netnewsledger.com/2022/02/05/the-canada-unity-memorandum-of-understanding/ The Sun statements on it https://torontosun.com/news/national/convoy-plans-to-replace-canadas-elected-government-the-stuff-of-fantasy Edited February 22 by Warhippy 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spur1 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Ya hoo Bruce is back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4petesake Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 27 minutes ago, Bob Long said: I'd like to take some rural Albertans on a field trip to Denmark and show them gender neutral bathrooms. They'd probably stand at the door and piss their pants in confusion. Trudeau was asked about this while in Edmonton for. Federally funded housing announcement and his response was quite accurate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Ravioli Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 14 minutes ago, Bob Long said: your defence of the trucker protest morons is admirable. Someone has to stand for the low IQ I suppose. This is exactly what I was talking about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 3 minutes ago, Ricky Ravioli said: This is exactly what I was talking about what would that be Ricky? PP's support of the northern magas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggums Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 4 minutes ago, Ricky Ravioli said: This is exactly what I was talking about Why is it weird that I know exactly the point you are trying to make but the same usuals completely misunderstand and misinterpret everything? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Ravioli Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Warhippy said: The original Memorandum of Understanding by the Freedom ConvoyCanada Unity organizers. before of course they changed it https://www.netnewsledger.com/2022/02/05/the-canada-unity-memorandum-of-understanding/ The Sun statements on it https://torontosun.com/news/national/convoy-plans-to-replace-canadas-elected-government-the-stuff-of-fantasy "Michael Rupcich FEBRUARY 8, 2022 Did a little research on my own, here is what the Sun got wrong: This group appears to have 5 members, 3 comments on their page and 165 friends. This group is not part of the leadership of the Freedom convoy, they are just joining it (it is unclear if only one member is going to Ottawa or all of them, but should all fit in the cab) They started an online petition asking the governor general to demand the government repeal their mandates because (in their opinion) they violate the U.N. charter of human rights, and failing that to demand the governments resignation. So , they actually were only interested in removing the mandates, replacing the government would only be considered if they did not comply. The petition is dated 2021, predating, and therefor not related to the current protest. CTV also mentioned this group, and while lncorrectly linking it directly to the convoy, actually reported their aims correctly (I know, I was amazed as well) This misreporting is apparently the source of the ridiculous claims that the aim of the convoy is to overthrow the government. Somebody started an online petition last year, has that somehow been spun to a need to call in the army." That comment came from the first article you linked. Sounds like the people "talking" about it weren't even apart of the original organizers. So again, no one tried to overthrow the government. Some random loser's just talked about it. I see Edited February 22 by Ricky Ravioli 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 7 minutes ago, 4petesake said: Trudeau was asked about this while in Edmonton for. Federally funded housing announcement and his response was quite accurate. yep, spot on. PP is performing distraction politics 101, and he doesn't mind if some lgbtq+ kids get hurt along the way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Just now, Wiggums said: Why is it weird that I know exactly the point you are trying to make but the same usuals completely misunderstand and misinterpret everything? I wish we had a little violin emoji. I know its hard when someone challenges a post you make, but thats what a discussion board is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satchmo Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 5 minutes ago, Ricky Ravioli said: "Michael Rupcich FEBRUARY 8, 2022 Did a little research on my own, here is what the Sun got wrong: This group appears to have 5 members, 3 comments on their page and 165 friends. This group is not part of the leadership of the Freedom convoy, they are just joining it (it is unclear if only one member is going to Ottawa or all of them, but should all fit in the cab) They started an online petition asking the governor general to demand the government repeal their mandates because (in their opinion) they violate the U.N. charter of human rights, and failing that to demand the governments resignation. So , they actually were only interested in removing the mandates, replacing the government would only be considered if they did not comply. The petition is dated 2021, predating, and therefor not related to the current protest. CTV also mentioned this group, and while lncorrectly linking it directly to the convoy, actually reported their aims correctly (I know, I was amazed as well) This misreporting is apparently the source of the ridiculous claims that the aim of the convoy is to overthrow the government. Somebody started an online petition last year, has that somehow been spun to a need to call in the army." That comment came from the first article you linked. Sounds like the people "talking" about it weren't even apart of the original organizers. So again, no one tried to overthrow the government. Some random loser's just talked about it. I see Who is Michael Rupcich? Is he someone to listen to? You can't always trust Wikipedia but it's usually pretty safe: Canada Unity is a group that campaigned against COVID-19 mask mandates and vaccine passports during the Canada convoy protest.[1] Co-lead by James Bauder, the group attempted to have the federal government of Canada brought down by the Governor General during the 2022 Canada Convoy Protest. One of the lead organizers of the convoy, James Bauder, has previously stated support for QAnon, endorsed conspiracy theories about the COVID-19 pandemic and the 2020 US presidential election, and called for the arrest of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau for alleged treason. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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