Wiggums Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Why are people so mad that a bunch of able bodied truckers didn't want to be forced to take a Vax for a virus that kills people in their 80's and 90's? Imagine destroying an entire economy for years to come, letting people go from their jobs, causing extreme poverty, drug use and homeless issues and causing mass divisiveness over a virus that kills people at the average age of 82....life expectancy age on the dot Most people taking up hospital beds were obese. Am I allowed to be mad at people who knowingly destroyed their bodies over the years and then took up resources when a pandemic came along? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Ravioli Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 2 minutes ago, King Heffy said: Now carry that line of thinking over to BLM, trans in bathrooms, ect. And why wouldn't I? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 3 minutes ago, Ricky Ravioli said: And why wouldn't I? Good, so I assume you'll call out the right when they make those kinds of generalizations going forward, since you claim to be a "centrist". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupertKBD Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 12 minutes ago, Wiggums said: Why are people so mad that a bunch of able bodied truckers didn't want to be forced to take a Vax for a virus that kills people in their 80's and 90's? Imagine destroying an entire economy for years to come, letting people go from their jobs, causing extreme poverty, drug use and homeless issues and causing mass divisiveness over a virus that kills people at the average age of 82....life expectancy age on the dot Most people taking up hospital beds were obese. Am I allowed to be mad at people who knowingly destroyed their bodies over the years and then took up resources when a pandemic came along? You forgot Plague of Locusts, Rain of Fire and Boils..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Ravioli Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 12 minutes ago, King Heffy said: Good, so I assume you'll call out the right when they make those kinds of generalizations going forward, since you claim to be a "centrist". Anyone who labels an entire group over the actions of a couple regardless of what they are protesting is unacceptable, so yes I would Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satchmo Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Wiggums said: 1) Why are people so mad that a bunch of able bodied truckers didn't want to be forced to take a Vax for a virus that kills people in their 80's and 90's? 2) Imagine destroying an entire economy for years to come, letting people go from their jobs, causing extreme poverty, drug use and homeless issues and causing mass divisiveness over a virus that kills people at the average age of 82....life expectancy age on the dot 3) Most people taking up hospital beds were obese. Am I allowed to be mad at people who knowingly destroyed their bodies over the years and then took up resources when a pandemic came along? 1) Because of what they did and the way they did it. Go ahead - convince me to think otherwise. 2) There you go using the word 'cause' again. You and I have been here before. I'd be open to a discussion as to how some things were worsened. 3) Most were obese? The greater the BMI the greater the risk but I think you are exaggerating. I look forward to a riveting discussion on the definition of obese. EDIT - if you think only people in their 80's and 90's died then - to quote yourself - you have been living under a rock. Edited February 23 by Satchmo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupertKBD Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 12 minutes ago, Ricky Ravioli said: Anyone who labels an entire group over the actions of a couple regardless of what they are protesting is unacceptable, so yes I would What are your feelings on BLM? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Ravioli Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 9 minutes ago, RupertKBD said: What are your feelings on BLM? I think most had the right intentions. Just like with the convoy, it needed better execution. There was a ton of riots but I know that doesn't define the whole BLM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 49 minutes ago, Satchmo said: 1) Because of what they did and the way they did it. Go ahead - convince me to think otherwise. 2) There you go using the word 'cause' again. You and I have been here before. I'd be open to a discussion as to how some things were worsened. 3) Most were obese? The greater the BMI the greater the risk but I think you are exaggerating. I look forward to a riveting discussion on the definition of obese. EDIT - if you think only people in their 80's and 90's died then - to quote yourself - you have been living under a rock. Here is the breakdown for deaths from COVID in Canada up until February 10, 2024: Total deaths: 37,601 Age breakdown: 0-11 = 59 12-19 = 22 20-29 = 136 30-39 = 339 40-49 = 712 50-59 = 1860 60-69 = 4416 70-79 = 8308 80+ = 21,749 So, roughly 80% of all deaths were people over the age of 70 and roughly 97% of all deaths were people over the age of 50... COVID-19 epidemiology update: Current situation — Canada.ca 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satchmo Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 4 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Here is the breakdown for deaths from COVID in Canada up until February 10, 2024: Total deaths: 37,601 Age breakdown: 0-11 = 59 12-19 = 22 20-29 = 136 30-39 = 339 40-49 = 712 50-59 = 1860 60-69 = 4416 70-79 = 8308 80+ = 21,749 So, roughly 80% of all deaths were people over the age of 70 and roughly 97% of all deaths were people over the age of 50... COVID-19 epidemiology update: Current situation — Canada.ca This I know and was the reason I was disputing the statement that the virus only kills people in their 80's and 90's. We all know elderly people were more at risk but that statement was over the top. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggums Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 41 minutes ago, Satchmo said: 1) Because of what they did and the way they did it. Go ahead - convince me to think otherwise. 2) There you go using the word 'cause' again. You and I have been here before. I'd be open to a discussion as to how some things were worsened. 3) Most were obese? The greater the BMI the greater the risk but I think you are exaggerating. I look forward to a riveting discussion on the definition of obese. EDIT - if you think only people in their 80's and 90's died then - to quote yourself - you have been living under a rock. What do you mean how were things worsened? We shut down..stores closed, people were laid off/fired, supply chain issues, prices went up, there were less places to live, people became homeless, lack of healthcare, lack of mental rehabilitation resources. Campbell River used to be clean and safe with no homeless but is has become a tent city. 13 year olds are overdosing, businesses are being burglarized or being shit and spat on by people hopped up on drugs that our government supplies them. https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/08/covid-cdc-study-finds-roughly-78percent-of-people-hospitalized-were-overweight-or-obese.html Covid is politicized so none of this will matter to anybody here. People who made themselves unhealthy were hogging hospital space but someone skeptical of a vaccine that was rushed into the forefront to battle a virus that came from some weird lab in China are to blame? We can only blame right wing anti vaxxers for not sticking their thumbs up their bums every time the government tells them to like the left does. No not only people in their 80-90's but the majority. Meanwhile, supply chain issues and soaring prices has caused millions of children in poor countries to become malnourished and/or dead. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spur1 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 1 hour ago, Wiggums said: Why are people so mad that a bunch of able bodied truckers didn't want to be forced to take a Vax for a virus that kills people in their 80's and 90's? Imagine destroying an entire economy for years to come, letting people go from their jobs, causing extreme poverty, drug use and homeless issues and causing mass divisiveness over a virus that kills people at the average age of 82....life expectancy age on the dot Most people taking up hospital beds were obese. Am I allowed to be mad at people who knowingly destroyed their bodies over the years and then took up resources when a pandemic came along? All I can say is who the heck do you think you are that makes so special and entitled to say that. Sad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggums Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 9 minutes ago, Satchmo said: This I know and was the reason I was disputing the statement that the virus only kills people in their 80's and 90's. We all know elderly people were more at risk but that statement was over the top. There was no statement that said that. You read what you wanted to read so that you had an argument to try and make, it's typical for this place, it's okay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggums Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Just now, Spur1 said: All I can say is who the heck do you think you are that makes so special and entitled to say that. Sad. We can agree to disagree. It's how I feel. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Just now, Wiggums said: We can agree to disagree. It's how I feel. Cheers You still didn't need domestic terrorists throwing a tantrum in Ottawa and closing the border (which also caused a lot of disruptions to supply chains). Restrictions were pretty much done by the time the Flu Trux Klan started its occupation. They were not "agreeing to disagree". 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggums Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 (edited) 1 minute ago, King Heffy said: You still didn't need domestic terrorists throwing a tantrum in Ottawa and closing the border (which also caused a lot of disruptions to supply chains). Restrictions were pretty much done by the time the Flu Trux Klan started its occupation. They were not "agreeing to disagree". Sure? or maybe they could of just lifted the travel ban. There's two sides to the street, or whatever the saying is. For the record I'm double vaxxed so i don't wanna hear nothing about that. Edited February 23 by Wiggums Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spur1 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 2 minutes ago, Wiggums said: We can agree to disagree. It's how I feel. Cheers I say to you that is a sad despicable feeling and I don’t agree with anything you say. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Warhippy Posted February 23 Popular Post Share Posted February 23 1 hour ago, Wiggums said: Why are people so mad that a bunch of able bodied truckers didn't want to be forced to take a Vax for a virus that kills people in their 80's and 90's? Imagine destroying an entire economy for years to come, letting people go from their jobs, causing extreme poverty, drug use and homeless issues and causing mass divisiveness over a virus that kills people at the average age of 82....life expectancy age on the dot Most people taking up hospital beds were obese. Am I allowed to be mad at people who knowingly destroyed their bodies over the years and then took up resources when a pandemic came along? Why are a bunch of able bodied truckers mad that their PROVINCES of which 9 at the time were run by Conservatives forced them to take a vax? or that the USA demanded that all cross border traffic be vaccinated? Why are they mad at Trudeau and NOT their PROVINCES? I won't even deign to respond to the obese comment regarding who is or was taking up hospital beds because you're full of shit and having almost died due to covid and buried my step dad because of it I won't let your bullshit lies and revisionist history go unchecked 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 15 minutes ago, Wiggums said: We can agree to disagree. It's how I feel. Cheers Your opinion is not fact. Never will be. it's why people like you are so often derided. because your opinions are pushed as fact but you ignore facts because they hurt your feelings and defeat your opinion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 12 minutes ago, Wiggums said: Sure? or maybe they could of just lifted the travel ban. There's two sides to the street, or whatever the saying is. For the record I'm double vaxxed so i don't wanna hear nothing about that. What travel ban exactly? Thje one in which the United States of America dictated that all cross border commercial traffic had to be run by vaccinated individuals? Ya guessing that doesn't really jive you "how you feel" does it 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 22 minutes ago, Wiggums said: What do you mean how were things worsened? We shut down..stores closed, people were laid off/fired, supply chain issues, prices went up, there were less places to live, people became homeless, lack of healthcare, lack of mental rehabilitation resources. Campbell River used to be clean and safe with no homeless but is has become a tent city. 13 year olds are overdosing, businesses are being burglarized or being shit and spat on by people hopped up on drugs that our government supplies them. https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/08/covid-cdc-study-finds-roughly-78percent-of-people-hospitalized-were-overweight-or-obese.html Covid is politicized so none of this will matter to anybody here. People who made themselves unhealthy were hogging hospital space but someone skeptical of a vaccine that was rushed into the forefront to battle a virus that came from some weird lab in China are to blame? We can only blame right wing anti vaxxers for not sticking their thumbs up their bums every time the government tells them to like the left does. No not only people in their 80-90's but the majority. Meanwhile, supply chain issues and soaring prices has caused millions of children in poor countries to become malnourished and/or dead. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggums Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 3 minutes ago, Warhippy said: Great movie. This country has gone to shit. Must be nice thinking everything is sunshine and rainbows, I'll have what you're having. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Wiggums said: Great movie. This country has gone to shit. Must be nice thinking everything is sunshine and rainbows, I'll have what you're having. Then move. You're one of the groups whining about every single thing in this nation like somehow it is broken. Without actual thought or intellectual conversation about how it is broken or how to fix it. You're camp one of those that will whine about every possible thing in your life that is wrong and blame the government for it instead of taking ownership for your own failures or lack of success. I am personally better off now than I was 10 years ago as are many others. Many are worse off. That's how shit works. Because you're magically not better off is not the governments fault. Move locations. go back to school. Get a better job. No? Instead just blame the government. Much easier. Shit it's worked for Alberta since 79, been a Trudeaus fault for almost 5 decades so why not for your camp too right? newsflash champ. If your life sucks, It's because you don't try to fix it and that isn't the governments fault. Edited February 23 by Warhippy 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 10 minutes ago, Wiggums said: Great movie. This country has gone to shit. Must be nice thinking everything is sunshine and rainbows, I'll have what you're having. https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/best-countries-to-live-in 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satchmo Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 36 minutes ago, Wiggums said: There was no statement that said that. You read what you wanted to read so that you had an argument to try and make, it's typical for this place, it's okay Who said this then: 'a virus that kills people in their 80's and 90's' ? Was it your evil twin? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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