Canadian Politics Thread

[the destroyer of worlds]

Another good thing with this Pharmacare bill will be seeing how many CONs vote against/for this bill.  For a party bitching about how bad things are, it will be telling how they square that circle with the upcoming vote for this bill.

 

PP is going to have to thread a needle here.  How can they support this bill when DECADES of CON talking points has centered on Big Government bad, socialism bad.  How will any tax cuts not lead to reduced revenue and thus social program cuts.

 

Time to put up or shut up PP.  Your whiny lil bitch act now has to have some substance.

[Bob Long]

11 minutes ago, RupertKBD said:

 

Got a wrist slap from Sharpie. I kind of expected to be gone, but as I said at the time, I was comfortable with my decision.

 

I figure one day he's just going to take me out without warning  

[RupertKBD]

7 minutes ago, Bob Long said:

I figure one day he's just going to take me out without warning  

 

I'm pretty sure one of the two guys I was scrapping with has put me on Ignore, so I likely won't hear from him.

 

It's a point of pride for me that I've never used the Ignore feature myself, but I will be manually ignoring the other one. I'll see the posts, but I won't engage. As I said at the time, they're dead to me.

 

This is exactly what I did with Ryan Strome and Forsberg the Great on CDC. Both said things that I felt crossed the line and I stopped engaging with them. I did manage to avoid any punishment in those cases though....

[The Arrogant Worms]

11 minutes ago, Bob Long said:

 

I figure one day he's just going to take me out without warning  

I got a warning for making a joke and the person I did it to liked it.

[6of1_halfdozenofother]

6 minutes ago, RupertKBD said:

It's a point of pride for me that I've never used the Ignore feature myself, but I will be manually ignoring the other one. I'll see the posts, but I won't engage. As I said at the time, they're dead to me.

 

That's the same approach I've been taking as well (even though you previously implied I was a moron... that's ok, I'm over it now ).  As much as one can't fix stupid, it's even worse when one chooses to engage someone who is willfully being ignorant, stubborn, or troll-like (or all of the above).

[RupertKBD]

6 minutes ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said:

That's the same approach I've been taking as well (even though you previously implied I was a moron... that's ok, I'm over it now ).  As much as one can't fix stupid, it's even worse when one chooses to engage someone who is willfully being ignorant, stubborn, or troll-like (or all of the above).

 

Why would I have done something like that? You don't strike me as one at all. And never have, that I can recall....

[Wiggums]

43 minutes ago, Bob Long said:

 

biggest drop by far is among conservatives who answered the polls in the link you showed. 

 

Yes there was a drop in Q423 among Libs and NDP, but I suspect things like todays pharma deal will bump that up significantly.

 

Maybe PP needs to stop telling the CPC base that they live in a hell hole?

 

 

Did you know, Conservatives in general are happier people?  Liberals are more likely to be emotionally unstable 

 

https://magazine.columbia.edu/article/why-depression-rates-are-higher-among-liberals

 

 

https://americanaffairsjournal.org/2023/03/how-to-understand-the-well-being-gap-between-liberals-and-conservatives/

 

 

Edited February 24 by Wiggums

[the destroyer of worlds]

1 minute ago, Wiggums said:

 

Did you know, Conservatives in general are happier people?  Liberals are more likely to be emotionally unstable and aggressive

 

https://magazine.columbia.edu/article/why-depression-rates-are-higher-among-liberals

 

 

https://americanaffairsjournal.org/2023/03/how-to-understand-the-well-being-gap-between-liberals-and-conservatives/

 

 

 

Maybe that is because liberals actually care about stuff, and CONs just bury their heads in the sand.  Liberals care, CONs don't.

 

"partly explained by liberals’ tendency to spend more time worrying about stress-inducing topics like racial injustice, income inequality, gun violence, and climate change."

 

 

 

 

[Wiggums]

2 minutes ago, the destroyer of worlds said:

 

Maybe that is because liberals actually care about stuff, and CONs just bury their heads in the sand.  Liberals care, CONs don't.

 

"partly explained by liberals’ tendency to spend more time worrying about stress-inducing topics like racial injustice, income inequality, gun violence, and climate change."

 

 

 

 

 

I read it.  

 

This is from the other one

 

Conservatives are more likely to be patriotic and religious. They are more likely to be (happily) married and less likely to divorce. Religiosity, in turn, correlates with greater subjective and objective well-being (here, here, here). So does patriotism. So does marriage. Consequently, some have argued that the apparent psychological benefit of conservatism actually comes from feeling deeper connections with one’s country, one’s family, and the Divine.

 

In a similar vein, studies have repeatedly found that conservatives—both politicians and laymen—tend to be more conventionally attractive than liberals (and have better sex lives). Moreover, people who are healthier in childhood have been shown to be more likely to become conservative as adults. Meanwhile, people with high measured cognitive ability are also more likely to support economic conservatism (and cultural liberalism).

[Warhippy]

11 minutes ago, Wiggums said:

 

Did you know, Conservatives in general are happier people?  Liberals are more likely to be emotionally unstable 

 

https://magazine.columbia.edu/article/why-depression-rates-are-higher-among-liberals

 

 

https://americanaffairsjournal.org/2023/03/how-to-understand-the-well-being-gap-between-liberals-and-conservatives/

 

 

american papers?

[Bob Long]

11 minutes ago, Wiggums said:

 

Did you know, Conservatives in general are happier people?  Liberals are more likely to be emotionally unstable 

 

https://magazine.columbia.edu/article/why-depression-rates-are-higher-among-liberals

 

 

https://americanaffairsjournal.org/2023/03/how-to-understand-the-well-being-gap-between-liberals-and-conservatives/

 

 

 

American ones, maybe. They haven't had the benefit of sensible government. 

 

You'd never know conservatives are happier by what Poilievre says. Or, wait, do you guys all know he's full of it and are in on the joke?

 

I used to vote PC btw. So I do know a little something about the difference between then and what we have now. 

 

[Warhippy]

1 minute ago, Wiggums said:

Meanwhile, people with high measured cognitive ability are also more likely to support economic conservatism (and cultural liberalism).

Shame we don't have that in Canada.  We have cultural conservatism and economic waste

[Bob Long]

40 minutes ago, The Arrogant Worms said:

I got a warning for making a joke and the person I did it to liked it.

 

what was the joke?

 

 

[Satchmo]

18 minutes ago, Wiggums said:

 

Did you know, Conservatives in general are happier people?  Liberals are more likely to be emotionally unstable 

 

https://magazine.columbia.edu/article/why-depression-rates-are-higher-among-liberals

 

 

https://americanaffairsjournal.org/2023/03/how-to-understand-the-well-being-gap-between-liberals-and-conservatives/

 

 

It's just because the cons make us so sad and because we stew over such inconsequential things:

 

American adults who identify as politically liberal have long reported lower levels of happiness and psychological well-being than conservatives, a trend that mental-health experts suspect is at least partly explained by liberals’ tendency to spend more time worrying about stress-inducing topics like racial injustice, income inequality, gun violence, and climate change.

 

Edited February 24 by Satchmo

[The Arrogant Worms]

5 minutes ago, Bob Long said:

 

what was the joke?

 

 

 

[Warhippy]

14 minutes ago, Wiggums said:

 

Did you know, Conservatives in general are happier people?  Liberals are more likely to be emotionally unstable 

 

https://magazine.columbia.edu/article/why-depression-rates-are-higher-among-liberals

 

 

https://americanaffairsjournal.org/2023/03/how-to-understand-the-well-being-gap-between-liberals-and-conservatives/

 

 

 

4 minutes ago, Wiggums said:

 

I read it.  

 

This is from the other one

 

Conservatives are more likely to be patriotic and religious. They are more likely to be (happily) married and less likely to divorce. Religiosity, in turn, correlates with greater subjective and objective well-being (here, here, here). So does patriotism. So does marriage. Consequently, some have argued that the apparent psychological benefit of conservatism actually comes from feeling deeper connections with one’s country, one’s family, and the Divine.

 

In a similar vein, studies have repeatedly found that conservatives—both politicians and laymen—tend to be more conventionally attractive than liberals (and have better sex lives). Moreover, people who are healthier in childhood have been shown to be more likely to become conservative as adults. Meanwhile, people with high measured cognitive ability are also more likely to support economic conservatism (and cultural liberalism).

Interesting.

 

priveledge begets happiness....

 

The researchers analyzed surveys collected from more than eighty-six thousand twelfth graders over a thirteen-year period and discovered that while rates of depression have been rising among students of all political persuasions and demographics, they have been increasing most sharply among progressive students — and especially among liberal girls from low-income families.

The authors, who include Columbia professors Katherine M. Keyes ’10PH, Seth J. Prins ’16PH, and Lisa M. Bates, along with graduate student and lead author Catherine Gimbrone, speculate that left-leaning teens may have been deeply affected by Donald Trump’s election as president, the US Supreme Court’s subsequent lurch to the right, rising socioeconomic inequality, and worsening political polarization. “Liberal adolescents may have therefore experienced alienation within a growing conservative political climate such that their mental health suffered in comparison to that of their conservative peers whose hegemonic views were flourishing,” they write.

 

 

[6of1_halfdozenofother]

33 minutes ago, RupertKBD said:

 

Why would I have done something like that? You don't strike me as one at all. And never have, that I can recall....

 

One of those moments when you defended Alain Vigneault.  

[RupertKBD]

Just now, 6of1_halfdozenofother said:

 

One of those moments when you defended Alain Vigneault.  

 

Wow. You have a long memory....but to be fair, I argued with everybody about that one....

[The Lock]

1 minute ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said:

 

One of those moments when you defended Alain Vigneault.  

 

Man, I have seen so many people on this forum shift in mentality over the years. It gets interesting to see what people were like 10+ years ago.

[6of1_halfdozenofother]

1 minute ago, RupertKBD said:

 

Wow. You have a long memory....but to be fair, I argued with everybody about that one....

 

It actually wasn't that long ago - maybe about a year or so, possibly less.  It would've been around the time of the changing of the (coaching) guard and possibly just before the end of the season.

[6of1_halfdozenofother]

1 minute ago, The Lock said:

 

Man, I have seen so many people on this forum shift in mentality over the years. It gets interesting to see what people were like 10+ years ago.

 

Sadly, my posting history at the old site appears to have been wiped (or at least fully hidden from view).  

[RupertKBD]

Just now, 6of1_halfdozenofother said:

It actually wasn't that long ago - maybe about a year or so, possibly less.  It would've been around the time of the changing of the (coaching) guard and possibly just before the end of the season.

 

Well, I'm old and my memory isn't what it once was.....

 

You must have caught me on a grumpy day. Those only happen on days that end with "Y"......

[6of1_halfdozenofother]

1 minute ago, RupertKBD said:

You must have caught me on a grumpy day. Those only happen on days that end with "Y"......

[The Lock]

Anyway, as far as happiness goes. I wouldn't be surprised if conservatives were happier overall. A lot of the left leaning tend to have a higher education and likely concentrated on their careers first before even thinking about a partner. They're also likely to be more affected by what's actually going on in the world. A lot of conservatives likely don't care about politics outside of voting.

 

Simply put, the left tend to be the white collar more educated while the right wing tend to be the blue collar. Obviously, this is a major oversimplification, but it would explain a lot in terms of happiness.

Edited February 24 by The Lock

[Bob Long]

21 minutes ago, Wiggums said:

 

I read it.  

 

This is from the other one

 

Conservatives are more likely to be patriotic and religious. They are more likely to be (happily) married and less likely to divorce. Religiosity, in turn, correlates with greater subjective and objective well-being (here, here, here). So does patriotism. So does marriage. Consequently, some have argued that the apparent psychological benefit of conservatism actually comes from feeling deeper connections with one’s country, one’s family, and the Divine.

 

In a similar vein, studies have repeatedly found that conservatives—both politicians and laymen—tend to be more conventionally attractive than liberals (and have better sex lives). Moreover, people who are healthier in childhood have been shown to be more likely to become conservative as adults. Meanwhile, people with high measured cognitive ability are also more likely to support economic conservatism (and cultural liberalism).

 

dunno what to tell you. I've been married for over 20 years, very happily (more every day really), I'm a very proud Canadian, have done nicely financially and career-wise very satisfied.

 

But I can't stand your Reformer buddies and I'm not religious, at least not in any kind of organized way with sky fairy rules. Not sure giving your con buddies a hug is going to make me feel any better.