Elias Pettersson Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 2 minutes ago, King Heffy said: Poilievre for one. You are comparing the leader of the opposition party in Canada to the party that was lead by Adolf Hitler and that basically started world war 2 and killed 6 million Jews. I believe you have already been called out by your “friends” on this and nobody in this thread actually agrees with you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Ravioli Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 1 minute ago, Elias Pettersson said: You are comparing the leader of the opposition party in Canada to the party that was lead by Adolf Hitler and that basically started world war 2 and killed 6 million Jews. I believe you have already been called out by your “friends” on this and nobody in this thread actually agrees with you. It's actually wild to me that he still on about that. Unbelievable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: You are comparing the leader of the opposition party in Canada to the party that was lead by Adolf Hitler and that basically started world war 2 and killed 6 million Jews. I believe you have already been called out by your “friends” on this and nobody in this thread actually agrees with you. I am comparing his hate speech, bigotry, and blaming all problems on immigrants to early 30s Hitler, not the end result. I stand by what I said; Canada cannot afford the evil that Poilievre wants to do to the people of this country. Germany could have solved a lot of problems if they didn't let Hitler out of prison after the Beer Hall Putsch. Canada should consider doing the same to Poilievre after his open promotion of domestic terrorism and assault on Canadian democracy. He belongs in prison for the the rest of his worthless excuse for a life. Edited March 1 by King Heffy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 1 minute ago, Wiggums said: Careful, this could be considered hate speech seeing as how he probably hates that you said it. That’s exactly why he’s pushing bill C-63. He can’t use the emergency act any longer or freeze people’s bank accounts that he dislikes. So instead he will lock up anyone who disagrees with him. Brilliant plan by Trudeau. His real father taught him well. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the destroyer of worlds Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 1 minute ago, Elias Pettersson said: That’s exactly why he’s pushing bill C-63. He can’t use the emergency act any longer or freeze people’s bank accounts that he dislikes. So instead he will lock up anyone who disagrees with him. Brilliant plan by Trudeau. His real father taught him well. Hyperbole much? Lol, like either of those things saw or will see JT personally direct who receives punishment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 4 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: The last true conservative leader we had. Even if he did lose control of the plot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 3 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: Stephen Ellis grills Mark Holland on the PLA bio weapon agents in the Winnipeg Bio 4 lab. These viruses and the techniques used to manipulate them can be far more dangerous than a nuclear bomb. #1 The people the CCP / PLA put in our lab were actively working on PLA bio weapons programs. #2 Why were CCP / PLA students allowed in the lab and given enhanced security clearance? This went against the agreements we had signed with International security partners. #3 Since when were Ebola outbreaks in China, an ongoing issue? Our Government left us wide open to attacks from inside the lab. They left the world in grave danger from attacks using the technical knowledge we provided the CCP / PLA and whatever they managed to steal from us. Every sane person knew in 2019 the CCP / PLA could not be trusted. Yet our Government allowed them to do all of this anyways, for political support in Canada. It's amazing the ccp can't be trusted, but the same guy saying this was one of the fastest admirers of every trade agreement with the ccp not 14 years ago with his old government The ccp run by the same person, people, ideologies and agendas were ok then but can't be trusted now. Amazing how things change when it is self serving 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 3 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: Shame the only thing you seem to care about is PP’s security clearance. What we need to know is how these potential spies became the heads of such an important facility under the Harper government and Pierre's watch. 2006? Became the head in 2009? That's suspect as hell considering that was a government appointed position 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 2 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: Doesn’t the latest Liberal scandal involve the Chinese government and Chinese scientists getting kicked out of the country for supposedly shipping deadly viruses and sending sensitive information to Chinese bio labs? And you’re worried about PP being a Chinese asset? Well, in fairness PP was a champion of numerous trade agreements with China and major sales if vital assets and resources to China while his party was in power. He also was part of the government that gave this potential spy and security risk her position at that lab in Winnipeg so ... Maybe just maybe.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarcore Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 1 hour ago, Elias Pettersson said: You are comparing the leader of the opposition party in Canada to the party that was lead by Adolf Hitler and that basically started world war 2 and killed 6 million Jews. I believe you have already been called out by your “friends” on this and nobody in this thread actually agrees with you. Six million Jewish people and five million plus assorted others. So many forget the others but ive been told they are well covered at the Holocaust museum. He's been told a several times by me that until people are on trains to extermination camps it is best to use another term. You can compare things but to use it as a blanket term cheapens it and doesn't do justice to the true horror commited by the Nazis. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 15 minutes ago, Gnarcore said: Six million Jewish people and five million plus assorted others. So many forget the others but ive been told they are well covered at the Holocaust museum. He's been told a several times by me that until people are on trains to extermination camps it is best to use another term. You can compare things but to use it as a blanket term cheapens it and doesn't do justice to the true horror commited by the Nazis. Sadly, any other word understates how evil PP and those who support him are. Downplaying the atrocities he wants to commit against Canadians in the name of his barbaric belief down system isn't the solution either. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duodenum Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 2 hours ago, Warhippy said: What we need to know is how these potential spies became the heads of such an important facility under the Harper government and Pierre's watch. 2006? Became the head in 2009? That's suspect as hell considering that was a government appointed position Oof. Doubt we see any retorts to this. It's a pretty good beatdown of the new "scandal". Or i guess we should call it a PP scandal now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spur1 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 5 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: Why is that the only thing you seem to care about? Loose strings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarcore Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 1 hour ago, King Heffy said: Sadly, any other word understates how evil PP and those who support him are. Downplaying the atrocities he wants to commit against Canadians in the name of his barbaric belief down system isn't the solution either. There are plenty of ways to call it out. Like giving specifics as oppossed to just calling him a Nazi with no context. Is he planning a genocide? Yes? Nazi works. No? Find another way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 4 minutes ago, Gnarcore said: There are plenty of ways to call it out. Like giving specifics as oppossed to just calling him a Nazi with no context. Is he planning a genocide? Yes? Nazi works. No? Find another way. I wouldn't trust him to not try to commit genocide against trans and indigenous people. Thankfully we safeguards against this, but it's still better to stop pretending this monster should be considered anything more than vermin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 (edited) RIP Brian Mulroney. And I mean it sincerely. I've made him the butt of my jokes often in posts here. But when the time came, he put his country ahead of his party/politician ways. When Dotard got elected, Mulroney put himself at the disposal of Justin Trudeau to help our government during that era. That's the difference between the politician Brian Mulroney and today's GOP. The GOP would rather let their country go up in flames than try to help the Dems. For that he will forever have my respect despite how I may have disagreed with him politically. Edited March 1 by NewbieCanuckFan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupertKBD Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 About a month ago. I made a request of the anti-Trudeau crowd ITT. To summarize, it was, we understand that you consider the current government the "worst ever", or "nothing but scandal after scandal".....it's been done to death... So.... Tell us what Pierre Pollievre will do to fix (or make better) the myriad of problems that Trudeau has caused. In short, tell us why we should vote for Pierre, instead of Justin, or Jag....If it's just that "He isn't Justin", that's fine. Put it out there.... So far, I haven't seen anything.....just more "Justin did this!" 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Just now, RupertKBD said: About a month ago. I made a request of the anti-Trudeau crowd ITT. To summarize, it was, we understand that you consider the current government the "worst ever", or "nothing but scandal after scandal".....it's been done to death... So.... Tell us what Pierre Pollievre will do to fix (or make better) the myriad of problems that Trudeau has caused. In short, tell us why we should vote for Pierre, instead of Justin, or Jag....If it's just that "He isn't Justin", that's fine. Put it out there.... So far, I haven't seen anything.....just more "Justin did this!" That's unfair, having us hand over our personal information before we crank one out will fix everything. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 well this is interesting, and surely throws a wrinkle into PP's porn ID planning Police now need warrant to get a person's IP address, Supreme Court rules Ruling states that under Charter, there is 'reasonable expectation of privacy' associated with IP addresses It went on to say that because an IP address unlocks a user's identity, it comes with a reasonable expectation of privacy and is therefore protected by the Charter. "If [the Charter] is to meaningfully protect the online privacy of Canadians in today's overwhelmingly digital world, it must protect their IP addresses," the ruling said. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/supreme-court-privacy-ipaddress-1.7130727 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 23 minutes ago, RupertKBD said: About a month ago. I made a request of the anti-Trudeau crowd ITT. To summarize, it was, we understand that you consider the current government the "worst ever", or "nothing but scandal after scandal".....it's been done to death... So.... Tell us what Pierre Pollievre will do to fix (or make better) the myriad of problems that Trudeau has caused. In short, tell us why we should vote for Pierre, instead of Justin, or Jag....If it's just that "He isn't Justin", that's fine. Put it out there.... So far, I haven't seen anything.....just more "Justin did this!" there are very legitimate questions to be asked about procurement muck ups, and why it took so long deal with the Chinese lab info they just released. We know of course that the political spin is the main reason for Trudeau slow walking the info. There's zero chance it gets discussed in a reasonable way in our current commons make-up. But thats not really a good reason either. Not sure the way we do things now, that we will get either a good explanation from gov't, or any good ideas on how to proceed from PP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maninthebox Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Some of you keep saying PP 'doesn't have a plan' or things to that effect, but should we really be expecting him to put forth anything worth considering before he attains any actual power? Or before campaigning really begins, at least? Is it typical for a party with little to no power to offer up their 'best' ideas? 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 9 minutes ago, Maninthebox said: Some of you keep saying PP 'doesn't have a plan' or things to that effect, but should we really be expecting him to put forth anything worth considering before he attains any actual power? Or before campaigning really begins, at least? Is it typical for a party with little to no power to offer up their 'best' ideas? It is the roll of the Opposition to ask the government in power to explain and justify their actions. I can understand why progressives are worried about what PP will do. They could start their critic by visiting the CPC website and reading their platform. We have all seen political parties that promise one thing in opposition then take a different approach after taking power. I suggest the current Liberal government a good example. Polls consistently show the CPC headed towards a majority government. Canada is a left leaning country so such polls suggest that all is not well in Canada and that PP is viewed as a better option. Many voters must think they have nothing to lose by changing direction. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 45 minutes ago, Boudrias said: It is the roll of the Opposition to ask the government in power to explain and justify their actions. I can understand why progressives are worried about what PP will do. They could start their critic by visiting the CPC website and reading their platform. We have all seen political parties that promise one thing in opposition then take a different approach after taking power. I suggest the current Liberal government a good example. Polls consistently show the CPC headed towards a majority government. Canada is a left leaning country so such polls suggest that all is not well in Canada and that PP is viewed as a better option. Many voters must think they have nothing to lose by changing direction. Perhaps people aren't aware of what an abhorrent pos pp is? I'm sure they'll be much more informed before the election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satchmo Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 42 minutes ago, Boudrias said: It is the roll of the Opposition to ask the government in power to explain and justify their actions. I can understand why progressives are worried about what PP will do. They could start their critic by visiting the CPC website and reading their platform. We have all seen political parties that promise one thing in opposition then take a different approach after taking power. I suggest the current Liberal government a good example. Polls consistently show the CPC headed towards a majority government. Canada is a left leaning country so such polls suggest that all is not well in Canada and that PP is viewed as a better option. Many voters must think they have nothing to lose by changing direction. I just logged on to their website and had a read of the policy document. Well, more of a scan than a read. Nothing nefarious to be seen. The question of how such policies will be enacted remains, as it does for all parties out of power. There may well be a conservative party in power after the election. I 'survived' both Mulroney and Harper. I'm pretty sure I can do the same again though I have some worries this time. I sincerely believe that the conservatives attract more right wing nut jobs than the liberals attract left wing nut jobs. (I dislike nut jobs of any stripe.) That is what worries me the most as the nut jobs seem to be getting nuttier and nuttier these days. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 1 hour ago, Boudrias said: It is the roll of the Opposition to ask the government in power to explain and justify their actions. I can understand why progressives are worried about what PP will do. They could start their critic by visiting the CPC website and reading their platform. We have all seen political parties that promise one thing in opposition then take a different approach after taking power. I suggest the current Liberal government a good example. Polls consistently show the CPC headed towards a majority government. Canada is a left leaning country so such polls suggest that all is not well in Canada and that PP is viewed as a better option. Many voters must think they have nothing to lose by changing direction. You can oppose, and put forward plans, and bills via the senate. PP could be offering far more, but that's not his sweet spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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