Canadian Politics Thread

[LaBamba]

1 minute ago, aGENT said:

Not sure what's not specific about Harper reacting to deregulate banking...?

[Rob Eh]

Just now, StrayDog said:

I believe I answered a few posts back I don't need to know everything going on in Canada to recognize right wing thinking when I see it. 

 

The amazing Kreskin over here.

[aGENT]

2 minutes ago, LaBamba said:

https://www.google.com/search?q=Harper+deregulate+banking&oq=Harper+deregulate+banking&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRigATIHCAIQIRigATIHCAMQIRigAdIBCTExMDYxajFqN6gCALACAA&client=ms-android-bell-ca-revc&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

 

[Playoff Beered]

19 minutes ago, StrayDog said:

Now I am confused. Are you claiming to be a centrist? Not with the posts I've seen here

Just another one of these...

[Rob Eh]

I like Jordan Peterson. I think Antifa is far left and very communist/marxist. I think nazi's are far right and very fascist (real fascism)

Edited September 25, 2023 by Rob Eh

[StrayDog]

1 minute ago, Rob Eh said:

 

The amazing Kreskin over here.

Mind reader? Not me. I'm just someone who has lived among some virulent right wing people. And as I said, they're pretty easy at times to pick out. 

Now, as thrilling as all this witty repartee is, I have to be going. Me and some other liberal plants have a thing to do....

[Rob Eh]

1 minute ago, StrayDog said:

Mind reader? Not me. I'm just someone who has lived among some virulent right wing people. And as I said, they're pretty easy at times to pick out. 

Now, as thrilling as all this witty repartee is, I have to be going. Me and some other liberal plants have a thing to do....

 

Have a good evening and not too much good luck in your liberal conspirings.

[LaBamba]

24 minutes ago, aGENT said:

https://www.google.com/search?q=Harper+deregulate+banking&oq=Harper+deregulate+banking&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRigATIHCAIQIRigATIHCAMQIRigAdIBCTExMDYxajFqN6gCALACAA&client=ms-android-bell-ca-revc&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

 

Harper can push for deregulation all he wants. It’s not his responsibility. This is just complete nonsense lol. Trudeau could push the BOC to stop increasing interest rates but that means nothing either. 2 total separate systems. 
 

edit, trump also protested against QE, it fell on def ears. Only the banks have that power. 
 

Edit, edit. Harper pushed for deregulation so low income families could purchase homes. 

Edited September 25, 2023 by LaBamba

[Playoff Beered]

8 minutes ago, Rob Eh said:

I like Jordan Peterson. I think Antifa is far left and very communist/marxist. I think nazi's are far right and very fascist (real fascism)

 

[Rob Eh]

3 minutes ago, Playoff Beered said:

 

 

 The audacity of a woman who makes an entire video of a man who clams men are more dominant.

[Rob Eh]

9 minutes ago, Playoff Beered said:

 

 Heres the full interview if anyone is actually interested to what he said and the context of the questions instead of cut up 10 second quotes by the soccer Karen.

 

[moosehead]

58 minutes ago, StrayDog said:

Ya know, I keep hearing how much better Canadians are educated compared to us Yanks. And then a post like this comes along...

Yup, the FreeDumb supporters can consistently amaze you with their sheer stupidity.    Frightening really. 

[Rob Eh]

20 minutes ago, Playoff Beered said:

 

 

What an idiotic argument, everyone of those men with all that wealth is married to a.......wait for it......A WOMAN.

 

So all these rich assholes claiming to be under a male dominance hierarchy don't give two shits about the guy working and starving or the guy in incarcerated because he can't afford a lawyer, she said that in video. She's a grass grazing, hateful cow with an axe to grind.

[aGENT]

30 minutes ago, LaBamba said:

Harper can push for deregulation all he wants. It’s not his responsibility. This is just complete nonsense lol. Trudeau could push the BOC to stop increasing interest rates but that means nothing either. 2 total separate systems. 
 

edit, trump also protested against QE, it fell on def ears. Only the banks have that power. 

 

 

Canada’s banking regulations pre-dated Harper by decades. In fact, prior to the financial crisis, Harper was a proponent of deregulation. In 2006 for example, he paved the way for the introduction of the risky 40-year, zero-down mortgages that helped bring down the U.S. banking system – insured by Canadian taxpayers. Some have argued that Canada would have suffered much worse in the financial crisis had it happened a few years later. In fact, we may not even be out of the woods yet. Canada’s housing market is considered to be dangerously (~35%) over-valued, and the drop in oil prices is threatening to burst the bubble. In opposition and at the National Citizens Coalition, Harper was similarly a proponent of U.S.-style banking deregulation, and was a critic of Chrétien’s decision to block large bank mergers in the late ’90s – a decision which the IMF recently argued was partly responsible for how well Canada was able to weather the crash.

[Warhippy]

1 hour ago, LaBamba said:

Oh dear god. You just fell into my arms. 
 

a-hem

Norway has 5,000,000 people bro. 
Norway pays for its social programs with……. Oil. 20% of their revenue comes from oil and gas. hahahahaha
 

we will never be Norway guys. You and your party have demonized your own ticket to socialism. 

*sarcasm*. 

 

Oh dear god.  You just fell into my arms

 

a-hem

 

Canada attempted a similar model as Norway in 1978.

Alberta and the US oil producers and military complex spent a LOT of money fighting it.

 

We had our chance to be like Norway and instead decided to be beholden to a single market.  Your own individualism and that of the us first mentality refused to consider helping the rest of the nation which could have saved this nation from a ton of heartache and economic trouble over the past 4 decades.

 

We don't need to demonize socialism, we just have to understand that we've been played for fools for over 4 decades and blame one mans bloodline in part for it because we refuse to admit we messed up

 

*Edit*. This is not to say things would have worked out had that plan gone forward either.  Just to point out that we DID have that option and it was planned but subsequent governments since then turned their backs on our industry and decided to send out raw materials instead of refining and value adding here for decades costing our economy untold billions

Edited September 25, 2023 by Warhippy

[Playoff Beered]

17 minutes ago, Rob Eh said:

The audacity of a woman who makes an entire video of a man who clams men are more dominant.

 

Since women scare you how about a guy taking his bullshit apart then...

 

 

 

[Warhippy]

50 minutes ago, LaBamba said:

That’s not very specific. You wanna go google quick or ask someone that knows what they are talking about? 
 

ask Warhippy

Ask me what?

 

About deregulation and the Conservative party?  Are we speaking provincially or federally?  If provincially which province specifically?  And are we speaking strictly crown corporations or are we talking about government regulated industry?

[Warhippy]

44 minutes ago, Rob Eh said:

I like Jordan Peterson. I think Antifa is far left and very communist/marxist. I think nazi's are far right and very fascist (real fascism)

being anti fascists is now a mark of communism and or marxism?

 

[Rob Eh]

3 minutes ago, Playoff Beered said:

 

Since women scare you how about a guy taking his bullshit apart then...

 

 

 

 

Talk about charlatans, go look at these you tubers channels and compare their video count of a Peterson 'takedown' (that would be like Tatoo body slamming Andre the Giant, 'intellectually') and one of their other videos. They make bank every time they mention his name, of course it has to be misleading and hateful, they know their audience. 

 

[Junkyard Dog]

9 minutes ago, Rob Eh said:

 

Talk about charlatans, go look at these you tubers channels and compare their video count of a Peterson 'takedown' (that would be like Tatoo body slamming Andre the Giant, 'intellectually') and one of their other videos. They make bank every time they mention his name, of course it has to be misleading and hateful, they know their audience. 

 

 

 

JP politically, I don't care much for or agree with.

 

JP philosophically, Interesting to listen to depending the topic.  

 

Also memeable person. Like if Kermit the Frog and Saruman the White had a child. 

[Rob Eh]

6 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

being anti fascists is now a mark of communism and or marxism?

 

 

Antifa and anti fascists are two very different things to me. One is used for  marxist subversion and demoralization and the other is something we all grew up against. My grandfather fought against it.

[Rob Eh]

How many marxist professors are there in North America right now? Droves and droves of them, how many fascist professors? None and shouldn't be but the atrocities of both idiololgies should be taught in schools and either of them should be celebrated or emulated.

 

So who is more positioned to over throw the government? You think anyone in China was worried about fascism when Mao was planning his great leap forward?

 

[Warhippy]

9 minutes ago, Rob Eh said:

 

Antifa and anti fascists are two very different things to me. One is used for  marxist subversion and demoralization and the other is something we all grew up against. My grandfather fought against it.

No...Antifa is antifascist.

 

It's literally what it means.

 

There's a group of people who counter protests the proud boys and other members of filth in the US and Canada that right wing outlets have dubbed "antifa" like a boogeyman but there's no club.  No group.  No headquarters.  Antifa is antfascism or antifascist.  For people to claim that antifa or being part of antifa or of the antifa mindset is bad; it is very brow raising.

 

More so; the people who would willingly stand up and admit to being the FOX news boogeyman ANTIFA; I still fail to see how that's a bad thing when they're standing up to the people behind the oathkeepers, the proud boys and the nationalists.  I mean if you're gonna be labeled a boogeyman and bad guy for standing up against groups literally existing only to shut down marginalized members of society it's a good label to have I think.

 

As for maxist/communist.  They're not the same thing.  Being a marxist is to hold communistic philosophy which lends the power to the people; not the state.  Being a communist is literally to allow the government to be the embodiment of those philosophies run amok as the state.  Personal views vs a system of governance.

Edited September 25, 2023 by Warhippy

[LaBamba]

14 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

Oh dear god.  You just fell into my arms

 

a-hem

 

Canada attempted a similar model as Norway in 1978.

Alberta and the US oil producers and military complex spent a LOT of money fighting it.

 

We had our chance to be like Norway and instead decided to be beholden to a single market.  Your own individualism and that of the us first mentality refused to consider helping the rest of the nation which could have saved this nation from a ton of heartache and economic trouble over the past 4 decades.

 

We don't need to demonize socialism, we just have to understand that we've been played for fools for over 4 decades and blame one mans bloodline in part for it because we refuse to admit we messed up

 

*Edit*. This is not to say things would have worked out had that plan gone forward either.  Just to point out that we DID have that option and it was planned but subsequent governments since then turned their backs on our industry and decided to send out raw materials instead of refining and value adding here for decades costing our economy untold billions

How far back do we want to go here? I mean. How on earth does one even unravel all the possibilities that could have come from this. I cannot say if this was good or bad idea because I haven’t dove deeply into the details. It’s just too hypothetical. 
 

Unless someone can point out another example, the most successful socialist governments rely on oil to pay for social programs. Norway and the Middle East. 
 

there are also more examples of nationalized oil that didn’t turn out very well. Venezuela, Columbia, Mexico, Libya, Nigeria and I’m probably missing a few more. 
 

Norway has 5,000,000 people. We can’t relate to their situation. Saudi Arabia isn’t a great place for human rights but the economics don’t lie. 
 

I’ve said this many times before, we have one of the biggest oil reserves in the world next to the biggest economy. Using those resources to pay for social programs and green energy is the best approach. 
 

we aren’t doing that though. That is the furthest thing from any liberal platform anywhere. So why would people who support the liberal rub Norway in my face then blame a government for messing up nationalized oil before I was born lol. I just don’t understand this flex at all. 

[Rob Eh]

5 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

No...Antifa is antifascist.

 

It's literally what it means.

 

There's a group of people who counter protests the proud boys and other members of filth in the US and Canada that right wing outlets have dubbed "antifa" like a boogeyman but there's no club.  No group.  No headquarters.  Antifa is antfascism or antifascist.  For people to claim that antifa or being part of antifa or of the antifa mindset is bad; it is very brow raising.

 

More so; the people who would willingly stand up and admit to being the FOX news boogeyman ANTIFA; I still fail to see how that's a bad thing when they're standing up to the people behind the oathkeepers, the proud boys and the nationalists.  I mean if you're gonna be labeled a boogeyman and bad guy for standing up against groups literally existing only to shut down marginalized members of society it's a good label to have I think.

 

As for maxist/communist.  They're not the same thing.  Being a marxist is to hold communistic philosophy towards the people.  Being a communist is literally to allow the government to be the embodiment of those philosophies run amok.  Personal views vs a system of governance.

 

They also love to attack Christian street preachers, Christian family lunches (don't deny it, i saw video, they threw explosives at 5 year olds) 

Mothers outside of woman spas protesting guys exposing themselves in the spa.

Fighting with parents at the PTA's and their arrest repost showed they not only didn't have kids themselves, they had violent and sexual assault charges. Scum of the earth fighting parents over an issue that has nothing to do with them.

Call them whatever you want, they carry communist flags for christ sake.