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4 minutes ago, Ricky Ravioli said:

The kids are not okay. New data shows Canadians under-30 ‘very unhappy’

https://globalnews.ca/news/10372813/canada-world-happiness-report-2024/

There was a report on telly the other day that said 70% of working people want to quit their jobs...

 

Lots of folks moaning these days.

i'm gonna go ahead and blame facebook. Just cause. 

 

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Just now, Elias Pettersson said:


I would actually vote for the NDP before I voted again for Trudeau. 
 

Maybe Jagmeet should get out of Jed with Trudeau and start pumping up his own party. He has a shot at getting an election called tomorrow. He should do the right thing and step away from his coalition. His base isn’t interested in sleeping with the Liberal party. 

His base just got some good legislation passed with the pharmacare and dental coverage.

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Just now, Ricky Ravioli said:

I don't disagree. It just rubs me the wrong way and makes them look weak in my eyes. Just clinging to what little bit of power they can when they could be catalysts for change

i would say that having no power at all looks weaker.

 

Maybe if they saw more in common with the Cons it would be different?

 

 

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32 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said:


The Cons don’t currently run the country. Since the Liberals are actually the ones in power maybe you should be asking them the same question. 

I've been told the libs have no plan.   I was just wondering  if the cons do.

 

 

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1 minute ago, bishopshodan said:

i would say that having no power at all looks weaker.

 

Maybe if they saw more in common with the Cons it would be different?

 

 

How about desperate then?

 

No. If they were propping up a failed conservative government my opinion is still the same

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1 minute ago, King Heffy said:

His base just got some good legislation passed with the pharmacare and dental coverage.

Yup. Bingo.

 

I think the NDP should not push for an election...yet.

Maybe the PP spike will die down and people would have a look at NDP for something different.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Ricky Ravioli said:

I don't disagree. It just rubs me the wrong way and makes them look weak in my eyes. Just clinging to what little bit of power they can when they could be catalysts for change

 

You see weak, others see dental plans.

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Just now, Ricky Ravioli said:

How about desperate then?

 

No. If they were propping up a failed conservative government my opinion is still the same

 

I'm happy with the things they have achieved using their opportunity. 

Deperate to get things done, maybe. 

 

 

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1 minute ago, King Heffy said:

His base just got some good legislation passed with the pharmacare and dental coverage.


The coalition only has a certain time frame to exist. At some point the Liberal agenda will not mesh with the NDP agenda and Jagmeet will have to make a decision. 
 

The parties are not the same and have different bases and constituents. 
 

Remember there was a time when the NDP was the official opposition. Maybe Jagmeet should be taking advantage of the current political situation like Jack Layton did and be his own man to try and get the NDP as an official opposition party instead of being Trudeau’s lackey…

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2 minutes ago, Satchmo said:

I've been told the libs have no plan,   I'm was just wondering  if the cons do.

It's like these people have never had a manger tell them to come with solutions instead of problems.

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Just now, bishopshodan said:

 

I'm happy with the things they have achieved using their opportunity. 

Deperate to get things done, maybe. 

 

 

 

It's arguably the most effective the NDP has been federally. 

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Just now, Elias Pettersson said:


The coalition only has a certain time frame to exist. At some point the Liberal agenda will not mesh with the NDP agenda and Jagmeet will have to make a decision. 
 

The parties are not the same and have different bases and constituents. 
 

Remember there was a time when the NDP was the official opposition. Maybe Jagmeet should be taking advantage of the current political situation like Jack Layton did and be his own man to try and get the NDP as an official opposition party instead of being Trudeau’s lackey…

He's gotten more of his platform implemented by working collaboratively than Layton did in official opposition.  

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6 minutes ago, Bob Long said:

 

It's arguably the most effective the NDP has been federally. 

I'd argue that bringing in CPP by working with the Libs was better, but Singh has accomplished a lot.

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1 minute ago, bishopshodan said:

Yup. Bingo.

 

I think the NDP should not push for an election...yet.

Maybe the PP spike will die down and people would have a look at NDP for something different.

 

 

The NDP's best chance of forming government died when Jack Layton passed away.

 

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2 hours ago, Warhippy said:

You know very well you won't hear or see me arguing this 

 

We need a total government reset and have for almost 2 full decades.


We seem to be on the same page. We only differ on the route to get there. 
 

So what does Canada do to get rid of the Trudeau government while at the same time not having to elect a government led by PP?

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17 minutes ago, Satchmo said:

Do you think the cons have a plan to make them happy?

 

They sure do. Make them register to log into porn sites....

 

Nothing makes kids happier than that.

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1 hour ago, Ricky Ravioli said:

So every grocery store raised their prices in the last 4 years. Are you suggesting there is some sort of price fixing going on? If you then why hasn't the government stepped in?

 

So that was a high. The average gas price that year was $1.28. Gas is $1.98 where I live now

 

That's just a full blown lie as I have moved a couple times post 2014 and I paid $1250 for re a 1 bedroom pre COVID. Place I moved to in 2021 was $1600. Rents have exploded since 2022

 

Clearly the government has no control over anything, so you are correct about that

Yes

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Rents have increased and they are because PEOPLE AND PROPERTY MANAGERS have raised them

 

The government is not the boogeyman you claim it is, most of the situations in your life you're whining about on this forum are based on situations you've created for yourself.  Own it

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Just now, Elias Pettersson said:


We seem to be on the same page. We only differ on the route to get there. 
 

So what does Canada do to get rid of the Trudeau government while at the same time not having to elect a government led by PP?

Re-elect Trudeau with a minority and hope the cons take the hint that they need to denazify their party in order to be electable in a civilized country.  A fiscally conservative party that didn't want to inflict their  barbaric beliefs on innocent Canadians would do quite well.

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8 minutes ago, King Heffy said:

He's gotten more of his platform implemented by working collaboratively than Layton did in official opposition.  


If Layton didn’t pass away he had a real shot at becoming Prime Minister. Harper was out the door no matter what in 2015. So it would have been Layton versus Trudeau. 
 

It would have been a good fight. Much closer than what actually happened. 

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