Spring Salmon Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 https://tnc.news/2024/05/01/diagolon-founder-denies-ties-with-conservatives/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Ravioli Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 3 minutes ago, Spring Salmon said: No where in that ridiculous CBC article does it prove anything about "white nationalist. He walked through a door that had a little drawing on it. Just because you keep saying that doesn't make it true https://nationalpost.com/opinion/rahim-mohamed-justin-trudeau-goes-full-tinfoil-hat-over-diagolon "To be clear, Poilievre’s advance team should probably have done a cursory sweep of the site for offensive symbols before clearing the prime minister-in-waiting to glad-hand with the tax protesters. Nevertheless, a small, hand-drawn flag at the bottom of a trailer door is thin gruel even by the standards of a conspiracy-obsessed Liberal war room. Yet the prime minister, never one to let a dearth of evidence get in the way of his favoured narrative, doubled down; accusing his counterpart in the House of “actively court(ing)” the support of Diagolon’s adherents. As opposed to, you know, spreading his “axe the tax” gospel to a receptive audience of roadside carbon-tax protesters. Nah, must be the white nationalist thing. " I didn't know anything about that group so I didn't want to comment but is this seriously now the bar for "white nationalism"? I'm sorry but you have to be kidding right? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satchmo Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 Just now, Spring Salmon said: No where in that ridiculous CBC article does it prove anything about "white nationalist. He walked through a door that had a little drawing on it. Just because you keep saying that doesn't make it true https://nationalpost.com/opinion/rahim-mohamed-justin-trudeau-goes-full-tinfoil-hat-over-diagolon If PP did not know who he was meeting that day it is a slight against PP and no one else. Did the convoy have any white nationalists associated with it? Did he support the convoy? (I guess it could be said he only supported 'the good people' but I won't buy it) I realize some may say I'm stretching but I have seen many stretches here lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satchmo Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 4 minutes ago, Spring Salmon said: https://tnc.news/2024/05/01/diagolon-founder-denies-ties-with-conservatives/ Sounds like damage control to me. Damage control is only needed when there is damage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spring Salmon Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 4 minutes ago, Satchmo said: Sounds like damage control to me. Damage control is only needed when there is damage. Diagolon isn't even real. It's just an internet meme and a couple guys on a podcast. All this whinging about Pierre and them is just crazy https://www.westernstandard.news/news/just-an-internet-meme-diagolons-goat-mascot-becomes-focus-of-emergencies-commission/article_96667570-5ae2-11ed-a1b2-e345e1099b52.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satchmo Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 4 minutes ago, Spring Salmon said: Diagolon isn't even real. It's just an internet meme and a couple guys on a podcast. All this whinging about Pierre and them is just crazy https://www.westernstandard.news/news/just-an-internet-meme-diagolons-goat-mascot-becomes-focus-of-emergencies-commission/article_96667570-5ae2-11ed-a1b2-e345e1099b52.html Is Western Standard as reputable as your first source? I just noticed the ad for this well regarded bit of fiction: 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satchmo Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 12 minutes ago, Spring Salmon said: Diagolon isn't even real. It's just an internet meme and a couple guys on a podcast. All this whinging about Pierre and them is just crazy https://www.westernstandard.news/news/just-an-internet-meme-diagolons-goat-mascot-becomes-focus-of-emergencies-commission/article_96667570-5ae2-11ed-a1b2-e345e1099b52.html Yeah, it can be described as just a cannabis inspired joke of a podcast. But who listens to it? Diagolon is not listed as a terrorist entity according to Canada’s Anti-Terrorism Act — and according to Amarasingam, it doesn’t fit that definition. He said the danger with Diagolon, rather, lies with how its viewers might internalize the cynical worldview Mackenzie and other affiliated broadcasters present. “I don’t get the sense that they know what they want to do next…. There’s this kind of constant revelling in the grievance itself. But there’s no real ask,” Amarasingam said. “That’s not to say particular individuals and this movement won’t take it upon themselves to do it — as we (allegedly) saw in Coutts.” As anti-COVID-19-mandate demonstrations paralyzed the border at Coutts in February, the RCMP said they became aware of a small, organized group at the protest that had “a willingness to use force against the police.” In a subsequent raid, Mounties uncovered 13 long guns, handguns, a machete, a large quantity of ammunition and body armour. They also found two tactical vests — adorned with what Canadian Anti-Hate Network researchers believe were Diagolon patches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 35 minutes ago, Spring Salmon said: https://tnc.news/2024/05/01/diagolon-founder-denies-ties-with-conservatives/ So... he'll be voting liberal then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 Why is everything an opinion piece in defense of Pierre? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spring Salmon Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 16 minutes ago, Satchmo said: Is Western Standard as reputable as your first source? I just noticed the ad for this well regarded bit of fiction: I tried to find a CBC article with the truth on diagolon but it doesn't exist. Believe it or not I don't care Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6of1_halfdozenofother Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 1 minute ago, Warhippy said: Why is everything an opinion piece in defense of Pierre? 'cuz it's what the kool kids read... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spring Salmon Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 2 minutes ago, Warhippy said: So... he'll be voting liberal then? I'm pretty sure they are PPC supporters but I think you already knew that 2 minutes ago, Warhippy said: Why is everything an opinion piece in defense of Pierre? Just like the CBC's JP Tasker or Aaron wherry do for JT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spring Salmon Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 2 minutes ago, 6of1_halfdozenofother said: 'cuz it's what the kool kids read... Some people read lots of different opinions. Crazy huh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 No affiliation or knowledge or dealings with diagolon. Meanwhile in 2022 https://www.nationalobserver.com/2022/08/23/opinion/pierre-poilievre-dangerous-dance-diagolon-extremist https://globalnews.ca/news/8989888/diagolon-explainer-jeremy-mackenzie-pierre-poilievre/ https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/what-is-the-diagolon-extremist-group-and-what-does-it-want-1.5785646 But Pierre, for a guy who thinks these people are losers sure does seem to spend a lot of time around them even if he doesn't know who they are or what they stand for. Especially for what they said about his wife https://ottawa.citynews.ca/2022/09/26/poilievre-denounces-diagolon-losers-over-threat-of-sexual-assault-against-his-wife-5872001/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satchmo Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 16 minutes ago, Spring Salmon said: I tried to find a CBC article with the truth on diagolon but it doesn't exist. Believe it or not I don't care I believe it. What do you think of the book True North is proudly advertising? Believe it or not, that's the kind of associations people are complaining about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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EP Phone Home Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 (edited) 4 hours ago, bolt said: Why are the Liberals so bad with money For one Justin admitted long ago he has a learning disability & is Disnumeric and can’t do numbers well. Two, Freeland is a former journalist not a math expert either. Spend $ to get the votes, future generations in taxation be damned. Edited May 1 by EP Phone Home 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Long Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 1 hour ago, Spring Salmon said: No where in that ridiculous CBC article does it prove anything about "white nationalist. He walked through a door that had a little drawing on it. Just because you keep saying that doesn't make it true https://nationalpost.com/opinion/rahim-mohamed-justin-trudeau-goes-full-tinfoil-hat-over-diagolon Deny deny deny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rook Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 1 hour ago, Satchmo said: If PP did not know who he was meeting that day it is a slight against PP and no one else. Did the convoy have any white nationalists associated with it? Did he support the convoy? (I guess it could be said he only supported 'the good people' but I won't buy it) I realize some may say I'm stretching but I have seen many stretches here lately. There were good people at the Crybaby Caravan? Didnt notice one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sapper Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 2 hours ago, bolt said: And you ignore what a piece of shit trudeau is and that he's projected to lose by a landslides. Your opinion represents a fringe portion of the population. Canadians want change. Do you just pretend the polls are wrong? When you combine NDP liberal.bloc and PPC numbers they are at or over 50% of all votes In the first past the post system PP is set to win a large majority Calling half or more of all Canadians fringe for not being conservative supports kinda makes my cult point for me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6of1_halfdozenofother Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 On 4/26/2024 at 3:27 PM, 6of1_halfdozenofother said: Although the article at the URL below is an opinion piece, if the points made in the article are what the UCP is in fact trying to do, that would make them no different than how the ccp has handled the HK government and its "elected" officials. And if that's truly the case, then it's sad to see that brand of authoritarianism playing out on this side of the water. https://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2024/04/26/UCP-Attacks-Local-Democracy-Parties-Donations-Overrule-Councils/ Excerpt: Excerpt 2: Excerpt 3: For reference, the political compromise that the ccp had tried to bring into effect in HK for electing the Chief Executive on a universal suffrage approach was to only have ccp-vetted candidates running for CE. This of course was not acceptable to pro-democracy legislators and those who supported universal suffrage, so the ccp withdrew the offer and now only covertly vetted candidates get to enter the race and "win", based on an "electoral college" style system of approximately 1500 vetted "electors". If Alberta goes the same route by allowing the Premier to become "gatekeeper-in-chief", that makes them no different than the ccp in their approach for civic elections. And to think that so many of my HK friends moved to Alberta thinking they were moving to a more "free" province. More about this in a CBC analysis piece here: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/alberta-municipal-council-power-analysis-1.7190105 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupertKBD Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 2 hours ago, Satchmo said: Just watch the house of Commons proceedings. Am I doing this right? I bet it's a heckuva cure for insomnia.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sapper Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 1 hour ago, Spring Salmon said: Diagolon isn't even real. It's just an internet meme and a couple guys on a podcast. All this whinging about Pierre and them is just crazy https://www.westernstandard.news/news/just-an-internet-meme-diagolons-goat-mascot-becomes-focus-of-emergencies-commission/article_96667570-5ae2-11ed-a1b2-e345e1099b52.html Yet all PP had to say was "I didn't see that sticker and if I did I wouldn't have spoken with them as I don't share their views" He didn't ... And attacked people challenging it He knew .... He knows and it shows 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 1 minute ago, Sapper said: Yet all PP had to say was "I didn't see that sticker and if I did I wouldn't have spoken with them as I don't share their views" He didn't ... And attacked people challenging it He knew .... He knows and it shows Exactly the same scenario as Trump with the Proud Boys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RupertKBD Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 2 hours ago, Satchmo said: Why must ever question be answered with poll results? Got any other insights? (Apart from mentioning nazis in parliament again.) ...and blackface.....can't forget the classics.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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